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Marvel's ANT-MAN Trailer #1

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NotLiquid

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Pretty bad trailer but then again Marvel movies have never had good first trailers, except arguably Iron Man 3.

Hell I remember when Avengers' first trailer came out and it was the most generic trailer ever. Tons of people were ready to call doom on that and look where we ended up. I'm still pretty optimistic about it.
 

Cheebo

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Pretty bad trailer but then again Marvel movies have never had good first trailers, except arguably Iron Man 3.

Hell I remember when Avengers' first trailer came out and it was the most generic trailer ever. Tons of people were ready to call doom on that and look where we ended up. I'm still pretty optimistic about it.
Winter Solider teaser was great, Guardians teaser was great. And Avengers teaser had the iconic 360 pan in NYC in it. That part of the trailer was iconic and got people hyped.

The idea that Marvel teasers are bad is crazy, I haven't heard this spin before prior to the Ant-Man disappointing trailer. The only previous meh one was Thor: The Dark World and that movie turned out pretty badly.
 

Road

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This is probably the worst Marvel trailer ever.

Douglas dialog is what someone would come up with if asked to write the longest paragraph using only cliche phrases.

The timing of the comedy was terrible and instead of being funny to contrast with all the overt seriousness (maybe intentional, it's not clear to me) before it, it is just err what? That's the punch line?

More imoortantly, there was no clever allegory to or use of the shrinking like Marvel themselves has done so far, or even a culmination process to the transformation. They just show him shrinking randomly.

Will see it anyways.

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llol perfect.

Not part of the Wright's ball licking group, but that's exactly my reaction.
 

CloudWolf

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Please tell me what the difference is between the Marvel films and the original Superman films, the original Batman films, the Nolan Batman films, the Blade films and the original Spider-Man films?

I can't speak for the others, but there's a very clear difference between the Marvel movies and the Nolan Batman movies. There's a reason why we all refer to them as 'the Nolan Batman movies' and that's because, despite the movies being about a superhero within a big franchise, the movies are very much classic Nolan in form and execution. WB basically gave Nolan free reign to tell his own story his own way with those movies and it worked fantastically.

Now, let's look at the MCU, where the last few years you have a lot of directors and actors in Marvel movies complaining about how Marvel is cutting them short, how they are adding stuff to or removing stuff from the movies without the director's or actor's consent, etc. It's completely different than WB's approach to the Norton Batman films.

Hell, the whole ordeal with Edward Norton should speak for itself. Norton got rights to a final cut from Marvel for The Incredible Hulk, which he used to better tell the story of Bruce Banner in the pretty great first half of the movie. Then when The Avengers came around Marvel clearly didn't want stuff like this anymore and wanted to do the coming movies their own way. And instead of communicating about this towards Norton's agent, they just went ahead and put out a new casting call for an actor for Bruce Banner.
 

Hex

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What a shitty trailer.
I mean it looked ok, but gives you no idea of anything going on or what it is about.
 

KidJr

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I know all of Marvel films want to have a consistent feel etc but they really do all look the same. They can still have a a consistent feel but give their directors more freedom imo.
 

Broken Joystick

At least you can talk. Who are you?
I don't know guys, a̶ ̶t̶a̶l̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶r̶a̶c̶c̶o̶o̶n̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶a̶ ̶t̶r̶e̶e̶ a man who can shrink? How will they explain that to the audience? They're scraping the bottom of the barrel here. I just can't see that appealing to the mass audience. This Marvel movie looks like a Marvel movie. Everything they've released before has been a safe bet. I conclude this movie will bomb based off the first teaser Marvel has released.
/sarcasm

Trailer could have been better, but its tells us who Scott is, some dude's been watching him and wants him to become Ant-Man, for a teaser, it's pretty much done its job.
 

Siegcram

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What a weird, unfitting trailer. Seemed like something straight out of the Nolanverse.

Hopefully the movie as a whole is a bit more upbeat.
 

Pie and Beans

Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
As I expected, breezing past Hank and Jan fun adventure times to get to "reformed criminal with daughter to tie him down" was a fucking terrible concept back when Wright was forcing it, and even worse now theyre stuck with it and having to soldier on.

Scott Lang is not interesting. Especially not when he starts out. Hank Pym is a fucking lynch pin of the Marvel universe, but now he's relegated to a grumpy old man that cant speak too often because the actor theyve chosen had a tragic shitload of throat/tongue cancer. Who seemingly wont have much to do with Ultron, bring Giant Man into the fold, or any of that.

Marvels first huge misstep and honestly its not entirely their fault. Their early faith in Edgar Wright before they actually had their own success has come back to haunt them in the worst way.
 
Didn't really do much for me unfortunately. Hoping for the best but I don't think this is going to end up being anything special.
 

Bricky

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The idea that Marvel teasers are bad is crazy, I haven't heard this spin before prior to the Ant-Man disappointing trailer. The only previous meh one was Thor: The Dark World and that movie turned out pretty badly.

Yup. This is why I don't get the comparisons with Guardians of the Galaxy. That teaser was one of the more memorable ones they've ever produced, and it was well-made, but people simply expected the movie to be shit regardless (mostly because of its weird concept).

This is the polar opposite. People trust Marvel and expect Ant-Man to be good despite this teaser, which is, let's be honest here, generic shit. If this wasn't a Marvel movie it wouldn't have gotten anyone excited. The editing, the tone, the music, all of it feels off. Almost looks like something Marvel would've released before they changed comic book movies forever with their cinematic universe.

The most disappointing part was the 'huh' joke. I'm sure that totally worked on paper, yet the timing and way it was cut make it fall completely flat. Sorry to sound like a Wright fanboy, but if there is anything he nails as a director it is comedy and he would've made that part work even in a teaser. It makes me seriously doubt if Peyton Reed can pull this off because most of the teaser seems poorly directed. I mean, what else has this guy done, Yes Man? I don't exactly have much reason to trust him based on his filmography. James Gunn had to prove himself as well but at least he showed he had potential with his GotG teaser.

Don't get me wrong, I trust Marvel to deliver and I'm not going to judge an entire movie based on a two minute teaser, but there is no need to defend this teaser just because it is a Marvel movie. It was poor filmmaking and I hope the first 'real' trailer is better.
 

CloudWolf

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i know nothing about ant man. so all he can do is become really small? seems... terrible.

There's also some odd comic logic going on with him retaining his normal strength when he shrinks and therefore making him stronger somehow. I don't know exactly, but I do know it's weird and defies the law of physics.
 

NotLiquid

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Winter Solider teaser was great, Guardians teaser was great. And Avengers teaser had the iconic 360 pan in NYC in it. That part of the trailer was iconic and got people hyped.

The idea that Marvel teasers are bad is crazy, I haven't heard this spin before prior to the Ant-Man disappointing trailer. The only previous meh one was Thor: The Dark World and that movie turned out pretty badly.

What, this trailer? No it didn't. If you want to go even further back, the first actual teaser for The Avengers which aired after Cap was just a 5 second clip show ending with Thor tossing a hammer. There really wasn't a lot to The Avengers trailers until the later ones.

I'll give you The Winter Soldier though. As for Guardians, the first teaser shown at Comic Con was pretty run of the mill. Ant-Man doesn't look like anything above what a lot of previous Marvel trailers have done; bunch of action scenes spliced between two or so jokes as part of a punchline to show it's still light at heart.

Not to say it's necessarily going to be better because it doesn't look that good right now.
 
Why is Marvel making a movie out of Ant-Man?

cuz he's an important and cool character?

Ant-Man may be relatively obscure to the non-comic reading masses but within the Marvel universe he is a lynchpin with just as much history as Iron Man, Captain America, Thor and The Hulk.

Scott Lang in particular brings something unique to the table with his criminal history and father/daughter relationship.
 
I was underwhelmed, but I also thought GotG looked pretty "meh" with its trailers as well.

I love that Michael Douglas is in this though.
 

Fuchsdh

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Lame trailer but the suit looks dope as fuck.

I think they did a really good job translating the classic suit into something tangible.

As for the rest of it, it's pretty generic trailer setup stuff. Since I'm not going to see it until other people part with their money and tell me about it after opening I'm not really concerned either way.
 

aerts1js

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Wow... terrible trailer but I liked every Marvel movie so I'm going to give this the benefit of the doubt. Still, that scene with him flying the ant looked ultra bad.
 

Blader

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The Incredible Hulk was worse than Thor 2, but I'm not sure that counts

I think Hulk's first act, with fugitive Banner on the run in Brazil, is pretty cool. Movie goes way downhill after he gets back to America, but I'd say I enjoyed that part a lot more than anything in Thor 2.
 
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