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May 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes June 7th

Holy shit. What the fuck???

So you can get

1x 1TB Xbox One
1x Halo 5
1x Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
1x Rare Replay
1x Ori and the Blind Forest
1x free Ubisoft game of your choice (Not that strong, you can choose between Watch Dogs, The Crew, Assassin's Creed Unity, Just Dance 2016, and Just Dance: Disney Party 2)
2x controllers

ALL FOR $320

This is part of their Memorial Day sale, so chances are it'll end tomorrow.


There has to be a reason they are doing this. That sale is too hot.
 

N.Domixis

Banned
Seems overly bold - maybe PS4 1.5:1 XO but I just cant see it doubling it or being close to that. Is this all on Uncharted?

ps3ud0 8)

don't forget
the game is at least a 1/8 crash game. That should add a 12.5% bump in sales from crash fans.
 
So lets see people call your theories into question and you pull out "multiple sources." Retail insiders point out that their info in no way lines up with your sources and all the sudden they are "anecdotal" and you switch to asking whether a slow burn WoM title or a massively successful title will be number one on NPD. Thenwhen people point out the absurdity of this question instead of pointing to aforementioned sources you switch gears yet again to "Guys its E3 time!"

Then you quote a sale literally labelled as "Memorial day sale" and insinuate it could be "indefinite."



edit: looks like you edited out the part about the sale not having an end date listed. Wise choice

All this amidst nonsensical rhetoric about Big Macs and bizarre puns. You sure are interesting.

I said anecdotal/outlier from the start when I made the explanation.

Also I didn't edit anything out. Look at the last sentence
 

RexNovis

Banned
I said anecdotal/outlier from the start when I made the explanation.

Also I didn't edit anything, I think those big macs are making you see things because there isn't an edit tag on the post ;)

Its called a ninja edit and you most certainly did say there was no end date listed. Why exactly would I make that up? You were just faster with your edit than i was with my quote button. But sure obviously I'm lying and besmirching your impeccable name.

Edit: Oh well looks like this time I quoted you faster than your edit. Look at that. Whelp the proof is in the pudding err fast food or whatever inane reference we are on now.
 
Its called a ninja edit and you most certainly did say there was no end date listed. Why exactly would I make that up? You were just faster with your edit than i was with my quote button. But sure obviously I'm lying and besmirching your impeccable name.

Edit: Oh well looks like this time I quoted you faster than your edit. Look at that. Whelp the proof is in the pudding err fast food or whatever inane reference we are on now.

No you clearly MIS read, I did not edit the quote from the website at all. That last sentence was always there it was never edited out.

Never said you were lying. But it always said "no expiration" not that it's a big deal. Point is Microsoft is in panic.
 
This Memorial Day deal looks a lot like the Amazind deal that started last week.

Seems Best Buy also has a similar deal.

Amazon, Best Buy, Microsoft Store, and didn't GS also have a recent sale?

I think we have enough to speculate they are likely clearing stock for... Something.
 

Rymuth

Member
I said anecdotal/outlier from the start when I made the explanation.
Anecdotal evidence would be akin to you walking in one store, see a couple of guys walking out with Xboxes and extrapolate that Xbox won said month.

You have been citing Reports. Reports have data in them which means you're in possession of insider information.
 
Anecdotal evidence would be akin to you walking in one store, see a couple of guys walking out with Xboxes and extrapolate that Xbox won said month.

You have been citing Reports. Reports have data in them which means you're in possession of insider information.

No you can't come to that conclusion because I didn't mention any numbers and it was one post directed to one person while also implying not to take it too much and also saying it was likely an outlier/anecdotal.

There no "insider" information. Thank you for understanding.

Hindsight probably shouldn't have answered Abdiels question.
 

Fdkn

Member
There no "insider" information.

Multiple sources across retailers that I have that have been selling out of Xbox Ones, and that became more of an issue with that temporary deal. (I've walked around several my self only 2 had Xbox Ones in stock as of Saturday)

Then reports that the console was selling more at the same rate and time at it's original price compared to the time frame of comparisons where it was $299

Also reports that the games that didn't sell to well, were now selling at a faster pace for this month.

Multiple reports and first-hand experience of people questioning and not buying a PS4 after given information about their Neo questions. Or they ended up buying a Wii U or Xbox.

Whether this means anything I don't know, that's why I predicted a small gap. If I'm wrong it'll probably be around the same gap the other way around as well in my opinion.

C'mon, you mention sources and then you even differentiate between multiple reports and first-hand experience of people in the last sentence.

You said what you said.
 

ps3ud0

Member
"whether this means anything I don't know"

Let's drop it.
That phrase doesnt negate anything you said - I cant fathom how you think anyone with common sense would accept that. Honestly if you are making it up, fine, just keep it off SalesGAF - its insulting...

ps3ud0 8)
 
No you can't come to that conclusion because I didn't mention any numbers and it was one post directed to one person while also implying not to take it too much and also saying it was likely an outlier/anecdotal.

There no "insider" information. Thank you for understanding.

Hindsight probably shouldn't have answered Abdiels question.

I.thought it was "multiple reports?"

So your "multiple reports" were from one person?


I'm just interested..Sounds like a huge win for Xbox this month
 

Swass

Member
There's not a single number in that post nor any real info outside anecdotal.

Just because you don't post numbers doesn't mean you can post bullshit. I've seen your posts in several threads and it's pretty easy to tell which flag you waive. Come E3, if not sooner, it won't be much of a surprise to see you as another junior casualty.
 

Javin98

Banned
Hey, guys, the thread got two new pages since last night. What did I miss?

IgMyx.gif


Oh, so we went from Big Macs to insanity. Someone should sue McDonald's for this.
 
So lets see people call your theories into question and you pull out "multiple sources." Retail insiders point out that their info in no way lines up with your sources and all the sudden they are "anecdotal" and you switch to asking whether a slow burn WoM title or a massively successful title will be number one on NPD. Then when people point out the absurdity of this question instead of pointing to aforementioned sources you switch gears yet again to "Guys its E3 time!"

Then you quote a sale literally labelled as "Memorial day sale" and insinuate it could be "indefinite."



edit: looks like you edited out the part about the sale not having an end date listed. Wise choice

All this amidst nonsensical rhetoric about Big Macs and bizarre puns. You sure are interesting.

Why did you change your avatar? This was a terrible decision.
 

RexNovis

Banned
The discussion in this thread has been so sidetracked by a single wacky poster that my bold predictions went completely unanswered... T_T

Why did you change your avatar? This was a terrible decision.

To quote one of my favorite writers: "I am large. I contain multitudes."

I think I'm allowed to change it up after almost 3 years. Besides, I rather like this one. Everyone's a critic. At least its still unique and not some flavor of the month icon like Geralt or Doom Guy :p
 

Javin98

Banned
The discussion in this thread has been so sidetracked by a single wacky poster that my bold predictions went completely unanswered... T_T



To quote one of my favorite writers: "I am large. I contain multitudes."

I think I'm allowed to change it up after almost 3 years. Besides, I rather like this one. Everyone's a critic. At least its still unique and not some flavor of the month icon like Geralt or Doom Guy :p
Don't cry, Rexy. You're supposed to be the meanest of all dinosaurs. :p

On a more serious note, I'll address some of your bold predictions. I mostly agree with your bold predictions, but a few I disagree with are #3 and #4. I think Uncharted 4 will break 1 million even without bundles. Also, I think DOOM will sell the most on the PS4 despite Uncharted 4 releasing in the same month. I'm also not sure if the PS4 will outsell the XB1 by 70K in May. It is a slow month after all.

Also, you're supposed to be like this, dude:
tumblr_nq25ozQzyK1utx67fo1_r1_400.gif

I just wanted to post this GIF. :p
 

RexNovis

Banned
Don't cry, Rexy. You're supposed to be the meanest of all dinosaurs. :p

If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not rawr?
If you poison us, do we not die?
and if you ignore us do we not hurt?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that.

On a more serious note, I'll address some of your bold predictions. I mostly agree with your bold predictions, but a few I disagree with are #3 and #4. I think Uncharted 4 will break 1 million even without bundles. Also, I think DOOM will sell the most on the PS4 despite Uncharted 4 releasing in the same month. I'm also not sure if the PS4 will outsell the XB1 by 70K in May. It is a slow month after all.

70k is a bit Bold but I do think the end of the promotional price drop will heavily handicap XB1 for the month especially in comparison to last month that was likely infalted due to said promotion. I'm predicting a roughly 28% drop for XB1 as a result of the end of promotions coupled with trends in previous years and an 8% bump for PS4 as a result of limited bundles and big first and third party releases. I think the figures are fairly reasonable given the circumstances but I could also see how some would disagree.

As far as Doom goes there are three factors to consider here. The first is that this is a genre and gametype that generally appeals more to the XB1 user base on average than the PS4 user base. The second is that XB1 consumers might be actively looking for something new to play during the release of a much touted first party release on the comepting console and, finally, it seems like Overwatch has resonated much morewith the PS4 market than it has with the XB1 market so when looking at consumer spend across two big titles on PS4 for the month it is easy to see how Doom mught be the odd man out so to speak. Its also worth noting that every time I have picked XB1 to sell more copies at retail in the past it hasnt. So.... my track record is certainly not great as far as these sort of predictions are concerned but it wouldnt be fun if it wasnt at least a bit risky.

Also, you're supposed to be like this, dude:
tumblr_nq25ozQzyK1utx67fo1_r1_400.gif

I just wanted to post this GIF. :p

Yes well I'd rather my sound and fury signify something so its chained up back stage for now.
 

Javin98

Banned
If you prick us, do we not bleed?
If you tickle us, do we not rawr?
If you poison us, do we not die?
and if you ignore us do we not hurt?
If we are like you in the rest, we will resemble you in that.



70k is a bit Bold but I do think the end of the promotional price drop will heavily handicap XB1 for the month especially in comparison to last month that was likely infalted due to said promotion. I'm predicting a roughly 28% drop for XB1 as a result of the end of promotions and an 8% bump for PS4 as a result of limited bundles and big first and third party releases. I think the figures are fairly reasonable given the circumstances but I could also see how some would disagree.

As far as Doom goes there are three factors to consider here. The first is that this is a genre and gametype that generally appeals more to the XB1 user base on average than the PS4 user base. The second is that XB1 consumers might be actively looking for something new to play during the release of a much touted first party release on the comepting console and, finally, it seems like Overwatch has resonated much morewith the PS4 market than it has with the XB1 market so when looking at consumer spend across two big titles on PS4 for the month it is easy to see how Doom mught be the odd man out so to speak. Its also worth noting that every time I have picked XB1 to sell more copies at retail in the past it hasnt. So.... my track record is certainly not great as far as these sort of predictions are concerned but it wouldnt be fun if it wasnt at least a bit risky.



Yes well I'd rather my sound and fury signify something so its chained up back stage for now.
Well, I personally predicted a 60K gap between the two, so not that far off. I would go for a bigger gap, but when I do, most of the time, I overestimate the PS4. Yet, somehow, for the first two months of this year, I underestimated the gap. Such a pain. :p

As for DOOM, yep, I can definitely see your point. FPS games do resonate more with the XB1 demographic. However, I recall the PS4 version outselling the XB1 version in the UK? I don't know, for many things, I use results from the UK to gauge the potential results in the US.

As for the poem, straighten up, man. You're a Rex, the scariest creature on Earth. There is no place for softies. :p
 

Conduit

Banned
Holy shit. What the fuck???

So you can get

1x 1TB Xbox One
1x Halo 5
1x Gears of War: Ultimate Edition
1x Rare Replay
1x Ori and the Blind Forest
1x free Ubisoft game of your choice (Not that strong, you can choose between Watch Dogs, The Crew, Assassin's Creed Unity, Just Dance 2016, and Just Dance: Disney Party 2)
2x controllers

ALL FOR $320

This is part of their Memorial Day sale, so chances are it'll end tomorrow.

Like someone said before :

You don't do these moves when your are comfortable at your sales.
 
The discussion in this thread has been so sidetracked by a single wacky poster that my bold predictions went completely unanswered... T_T



To quote one of my favorite writers: "I am large. I contain multitudes."

I think I'm allowed to change it up after almost 3 years. Besides, I rather like this one. Everyone's a critic. At least its still unique and not some flavor of the month icon like Geralt or Doom Guy :p

Bro.

I was only kiddin bro :/
 

Welfare

Member
So either MS are slow on the uptake, or that XB1 deal from yesterday really will continue to an unannounced date.
 

Stanng243

Member
It appears our "insider" Edson flamed out. I was looking forward to a good E3 meltdown. I'm curious to see how realistic his predictions are.
 

Mikey Jr.

Member
Can it be that the Xbone sales are dead poor, they're beyond dreadful? Could it be the reason? What does your source say?

My opinion?

Clearing stock for an xb1 mini that will straight up replace the original.

Having said that, this is a fucking firesale deal. Meaning that sales are poor, so the only way to actually clear stock is to have this bonkers deal.

I mean, look at what you're getting for 320. This does not show me a company happy with their sales.
 

Fdkn

Member
The talk of Overwatch bombing is already alive and well in the PAL thread. Haha knew this was coming.

that's not really accurate, in fact the word bomb has not been written at all on the thread.

Some people *unreasonably* expected a bigger retail opening but that was a wrong call. It will happen on NPD threads too because of the nature of the game.
 

Welfare

Member
My opinion?

Clearing stock for an xb1 mini that will straight up replace the original.

Having said that, this is a fucking firesale deal. Meaning that sales are poor, so the only way to actually clear stock is to have this bonkers deal.

I mean, look at what you're getting for 320. This does not show me a company happy with their sales.

Or they have too much in the channel to begin that if they did nothing, there wouldn't be enough space for a Slim model to stock properly. These deals are being done weeks before E3. Something is probably on the way for right after E3.
 

Asd202

Member
that's not really accurate, in fact the word bomb has not been written at all on the thread.

Some people *unreasonably* expected a bigger retail opening but that was a wrong call. It will happen on NPD threads too because of the nature of the game.

Not to mention Overwatch will have crazy legs the word of mouth around the game is very good.
 
that's not really accurate, in fact the word bomb has not been written at all on the thread.

Some people *unreasonably* expected a bigger retail opening but that was a wrong call. It will happen on NPD threads too because of the nature of the game.

Eh it's starting and it will also happen in the NPD thread when it's under 500k
 
And another one is banned. As the years go by and find them more and more entertaining. Godspeed, banned poster. Godspeed.

So are you all predicting that Overwatch really will be the game that has 90 percent digital sales?

Over half when including PC is highly likely. I'd guess at 60%-70% when including the PC, but that is based on nothing.
 

Unknown?

Member
My opinion?

Clearing stock for an xb1 mini that will straight up replace the original.

Having said that, this is a fucking firesale deal. Meaning that sales are poor, so the only way to actually clear stock is to have this bonkers deal.

I mean, look at what you're getting for 320. This does not show me a company happy with their sales.
They couldn't even beat PS4 last month with an official drop and tons of retailer deals. I'd say they aren't happy. If they don't have a new model at E3 sells will tank even further but even with a slim it's still all about games and PS4 has that in spades above the competition this year and next.
 

ps3ud0

Member
So Xbox Slim launches and in stores day and date with the MS E3 conference? Seems more than likely. Theres a load of XO package variants to shift though - I still dont understand why there are so many...

ps3ud0 8)
 
So either MS are slow on the uptake, or that XB1 deal from yesterday really will continue to an unannounced date.

When was the last time a MS sale ended when it was supposed to? Even the major price drops were still available a few days after their cutoff point.

And this talk of clearing Stock for Xbox mini is nonsense. As stated in the original rumour thread, the Xbox mini is for smaller games, not XBO titles. There is only so much you can shrink these machines without coming into serious thermal issues, even now 3 years later.

And Scorpio is way too far off for clearing stock.
 
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