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May 2016 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes June 7th
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HAH! It really was the perfect avatar wasn't it?
Now watch this become CosmicQueso's new catch phrase.
Welfare
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Ok, so it looks something will be announced/released very soon after E3.
"Offer valid while supplies last"
And on the official Microsoft Offers page on Gamestop's website, they have this for the $30 offer on the 1TB bundles. "Offer valid through May 29 - June 14"
This is a stock clearing move.
"Offer valid while supplies last"
And on the official Microsoft Offers page on Gamestop's website, they have this for the $30 offer on the 1TB bundles. "Offer valid through May 29 - June 14"
This is a stock clearing move.
Ok, so it looks something will be announced/released very soon after E3.
"Offer valid while supplies last"
And on the official Microsoft Offers page on Gamestop's website, they have this for the $30 offer on the 1TB bundles. "Offer valid through May 29 - June 14"
This is a stock clearing move.
Yep. Basically means two things:
1. There must be a hefty amount of backstock to clear out.
2. Slim SKU is very likely to release on or shortly after E3.
Knowing that a reveal of Scorpio doesnt make much sense. You'd figure it'd crater demand for a slim remodel.
Welfare
Member
If MS want to rebrand Xbox as a brand of devices and not just a singular console, they can position Scorpio as a premium device you can buy that'll give you top of the line gaming performance plus 4K media, and the Xbox One as a budget device.
Both will have the same access to the Xbox ecosystem, just one is a premium device for next year and the XB1 is for cheaper access.
That seems like a really tricky thing to sell their audience. It'd be incredibly interesting to watch though. I was saying before this whole Scorpio stuff came out how I was actually most interested in what MS does at E3 since it seems like a pivotal moment for them with all of their new initiatives and their shifts in focus towards Windows 10 and UWP. Recent news only cements this even more so in my opinion. It's definitely the conference I find myself the most curious about this year.
It almost makes me wonder if they are gonna try and go the whole hog with the Xbox One approach of a set-top family box, while,trying to gain the major console gamers with Scorpio. The only massive issue I can see is the cost of the Scorpio (well, and the marketing approach of the "mini" or whatever t ends up being).
But they can't just right back into marketing it for families and TV TV TV just yet, the Scorpio is still over a year away.
This E3 is gonna be weird.
Obliterator
Member
Ok, so it looks something will be announced/released very soon after E3.
"Offer valid while supplies last"
And on the official Microsoft Offers page on Gamestop's website, they have this for the $30 offer on the 1TB bundles. "Offer valid through May 29 - June 14"
This is a stock clearing move.
Without a doubt
KinofChaos
Banned
lol why is it upside down?
Welfare
Member
Yeah, it will be very tricky, but I think they can do it. Mention that Xbox and Windows 10 are merging and thanks to Win10, multiple Xbox devices can coexist and allow for different tiers of performance/price.
- That streaming stick can be a very cheap (~$100) stream device that gives you access to every media app on Win10 + Xbox One.
- The Xbox Mini can be a low tier, disc-less game device (~$150) that has access to small Win10 game apps, small XB1 titles, and maybe even 360 BC titles.
- Xbox One is the Xbox One. $299
- Xbox Scorpio is a 4K media device, Oculus support, and plays everything the XB1 can play but at higher performance. By Fall 2017, this could be $399 while the XB1 drops to $249.
Microsoft's conference is the one I'm most looking forward to because of stuff like this. Dreams 2.0 be damned.
It would be entirely counter productive imo if they talk about the tv dongle and set top box stuff at E3. They run the risk of the TV TV TV TV meme shit all over again.
DriftingSpirit
Member
I agree that's it's not something to do at E3, but it now would make a lot more sense for them to market it as such.
KinofChaos
Banned
LOL, unfortunately for MS most of the gaming population doesn't think this way. Streaming stick and all the stuff won't do a thing for xbox.
I'd be super worried about proliferation between the stick and the mini tbh. They can't be too close in price, and they have to be clearly different.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Yep.
Easily since NPD is retail only.
Welfare
Member
Yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
My brain is just bouncing between the Chromecast, Roku Stick, and Apple TV. I'm wondering if MS will be able to carve out a decent chunk of that market. It took them a while with tablets, but their phone attempt was pretty flat and i think getting into the market late was a big issue for them.
Yea I agree its definitely the one to watch this year. Its going to be the culmination of a lot of work and reorganizing on their part. I've no doubt theyve put a lot of time and thought into how best to pitch it all to their audience so I'm really looking forward to seeing how it all plays out.
At retail? Absolutely yes. Including digital? Definitely up for debate.
Dash_Riprock
Member
Uncharted.
If you had an idea in mind, we could make you one, haha.
Otoh, and if these are even real, nothing about these products is (in theory) ground breaking, and is frankly just following what others have already done, by the dozens in some cases (media USB stick).
If there is indeed a Slim, Mini and a USB stick that will be announced, MS will not only have to clearly differentiate these from each other, but also show how they matter and make sense in a world where their competition already has PSTV/ Vita + (rooted for now) phones/ tablets for remote play, where a chrome/ Fire TV is $40 and a PS4 offers a serious cable TV alternative+virtual DVR for $40+ a month...
Ultimately a slim at $299 is potentially a "repackaged" XB1 at the same price it's been since November 2015 (maybe 1 month aside), and I think that if Sony delivers indeed on PSVR and the software, they can still easily have a fantastic E3, even if Neo is not introduced (I am not expecting it until GC/ PGW). What I do expect though, as said before, is a PS4 at $299 starting this E3 though.
Oh yeah, we could cook up some ... extraordinary stuff.
Put the Bubsy head inside the helmet as though its an astronaut Bubsy.
Nobody ever offered to make me an avatar...
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Deal.
CosmicQueso
Member
Oh yeah, we could cook up some ... extraordinary stuff.
OMG!
Mass Effect
Member
So the cut is temporary.
#teamSlim
I think its happening. If the Scorpio is over a year away, I don't think a Slim would hurt it all that much.
What have you done
#teamSlim
I think its happening. If the Scorpio is over a year away, I don't think a Slim would hurt it all that much.
Oh yeah, we could cook up some ... extraordinary stuff.
What have you done
Oh yeah, we could cook up some ... extraordinary stuff.
AH!
Anyone else want to take a crack at my Bold Predictions for this month?
Was hoping to get more discussion out of this one.
Also, I realize this is off topic but my favorite game (Nox) from my all time favorite development studio (Westwood Studios) is available for free right now. If you are a fan of ARPGs and value my judgement at all you should go download it right this second.
Seriously guys this game is such a hidden gem. It was doomed sales wise from the word go because it released close to Diablo 2 and well being in the same genre ... yea it didnt go well... Such a shame though since despite being in the same genre they are such drastically different games. Anyway I just wanted to point this out. Its not every day you see one of your favorite old school games pop up as a free download. I hope some of y'all will give it a shot.
Was hoping to get more discussion out of this one.
Also, I realize this is off topic but my favorite game (Nox) from my all time favorite development studio (Westwood Studios) is available for free right now. If you are a fan of ARPGs and value my judgement at all you should go download it right this second.
Seriously guys this game is such a hidden gem. It was doomed sales wise from the word go because it released close to Diablo 2 and well being in the same genre ... yea it didnt go well... Such a shame though since despite being in the same genre they are such drastically different games. Anyway I just wanted to point this out. Its not every day you see one of your favorite old school games pop up as a free download. I hope some of y'all will give it a shot.
slavesnyder
Member
Okay Rex. Let's try.
I agree. 1.5 is high, but it should easily beat 400m
I predicted 2:1, gap higher than 70k is for sure.
Doing this formatting stuff on a small phone is awful.
I agree. 1.5 is high, but it should easily beat 400m
Doom might be heavily attached to PC digital, so no top 4 for me, to make a bold counter
Uncharted will sell more than a million, bundles not counted.
Xbox is highly associated with doom. So yes.
Homefront will beat Battleborn. Thanks to digital for the latter not counting.
Absolutely
Doing this formatting stuff on a small phone is awful.
1.5 is high but I think with the success they are seeing in Korea (it skyrocketed to #2 most streamed game in Korea and has stayed there all week) and other countries around the world (See plentiful amounts of fanart form places like UAE, Spain, Russia etc) I think it definitely stands a chance of hitting it.
Thats a good point. No doubt the PC share will be much larger than most FPS titles thanks to Doom's legacy. Thats the main reason I said top 4 instead of top 3. I think it will still sell enough on consoles at retail (especially XB1) to make a dent.
It certainly could but my thinking was that with 2.7 million ww including digital copies sold it might be a lot closer than many are predicting here so I'm lowballing in an effort to sort of play devil's advocate. I do think its possible it will hit or even break 1 million for retail copies but I really dont think it would exceed 1 million by much if any if that were the case. The determining factor here will be how many of the limited editions UC4 bundles were manufactured and sold as I feel those would eat into the sales that would have otherwise been retail copies. I'm basically hedging my bets with my prediction that there will be a non trivial amount of bundles sold.
It goes beyond just association. I think with UC4 releasing and Overwatch seemingly being much more popular on PS4 that this would deter some consumers from purchasing Doom for PS4 as well. 3 games in one month is a lot to ask consumers to spend on. Compare this with the situation on Xb1 and you have Overwatch which by most accounts is performing decently but nowhere near as well as on PS4 and no flagship exclusive title releasing this month. Thus I think Xb1 consumers are more likely to plop the money down for Doom not having two other full retail releases competing for that cash. Throw in the fact that Doom is in a genre that tends to be more popular with the XB1 consumer base on average and I think its a definite possibility that it sells more there.
Interesting. You think digital sales for Battleborn will be substantial enough to make up the difference? I would actually think the opposite as it seems to be a game a lot of people are wary of and that would lead to more retail purchases due to the promise of being able to trade back in if it ends up dissapointing.
Absolutely
Wow thats a massive gap. Whats your thinking on this? Why do you think the gap will be so large?
Yea... I do not envy that. My giant fingers make trying to type on the phone at all a nightmare. Especially on tiny phones designed for little Japanese hands... Basically, touch keyboards are the devil.
DOOM was heavily slanted in PS4's favor in the UK, in spite of the marketing campaign. I think there's a chance for an upset come next NPD.
Wow I won't lie that's surprising to see. Well damn that doesn't bode well for me then haha
Cthulhu_Steev
Member
Edson banned? NOOOO, I wanted to see his responses after NPD and e3.
I expect you will see him again in a few weeks.
slavesnyder
Member
There simply was a pun intended.
I'll try harder.
*facepalm* Edson completely nuked my humor detector
Hah!! How the hell did I miss that?!? I am ashamed.
Yep, I remember DOOM heavily favouring the PS4 as well, which is why I was surprised to see Rex predicting the XB1 version ahead.
KinofChaos
Banned
The gap is getting close to 2 mill now in the US, Doom will sell more on PS4, even if UC4 sells 1.2 million that's what? less then 10% of Ps4 owners in the US, lots of people to buy doom or both.
PanicFreak
Member
At this point, there are zero games, no matter the genre, historical association with Xbox, etc. that I would expect to sell better on the Xbox. I even think that TitanFall 2 and Mass Effect 4 will sell better on PS4.
Jarod McChicken
Member
I wonder how retail-GAF would describe Uncharted's legs ? I'm just semi-surprised to see it won back the best selling game rank on Amazon, now that Overwatch has slow down.
Is he really gone for good though? He had become a member at one point. Maybe this is only temporary.
slavesnyder
Member
Cow Goes Moo
Member
possible, i think he got juniored for spamming topics, though that's speculative
most member gone to juniors are given mercy and eventually return (on the same username), some aren't so fortunate
CosmicQueso
Member
What could possibly go wrong?!?
Darth Smurf X
Member
All this talk about Xbox Sticks... can someone explain to me why someone would buy one of those? As in, what would it do for a non-Xbox One owner? What would it do for an Xbox One owner? Would it interest a PS4 owner in any way, shape or form? I'm just wondering why this would be a big thing and why it would be announced at a gaming event. I'm clearly missing something.
CosmicQueso
Member
It's called a "Stick" because it's what they hope happens when they throw this and all the other crazy ideas at the wall.