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Nvidia RTX 30XX |OT|

nemiroff

Gold Member
Too bad I don't plant to get rtx 3080 or 3090 (waiting for 3070) both are available in my local store.


I ran the first page through google translate:

"These products are based on narcissism. Do not contact us for further information, as well as various Greek and cynical jokes."
 

Bboy AJ

My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
So, you're going to get a display whose aspect ratio is 16:9 but use it to display content in 21:9, thereby wasting some of the display's screen space? Why?
LG CX is 16:9 though.
That LG UW not worth asking price, two grand for an IPS panel? Are you kidding me LG? You can get 65 inch CX for that price which will have IQ light years ahead of that UW IPS panel. I also have UW VA 1440p 100hz(ASUS XG35VQ), I also have LG C9. I love 21:9 format, but I do not game on it anymore after I've got C9, it's just once you experience OLED it's hard to go back to anything else really. 21:9 OLED monitors can't come soon enough.
Just an update: looks like I’m not the only one with the thought process to run the LG CX in 21:9
 

Chiggs

Member
I'm trying to gauge how much is it worth all the pain you guys are going through trying to get a 300x card... because I paid $900 more (3090) and it stung like the dickens.. BUT I have the card and never have to worry about trying to buy it day after day.. Hmm..

You made the right move, IMO.
 

BluRayHiDef

Banned
Well, I know that some of you guys are going to love what happened to me today since some of you really dislike me.

Anyhow, my PNY RTX 3090 arrived today. I connected it to a vertical mount and booted my PC, but I realized afterward that the vertical mount knocked one of my case's USB connectors out of one of the USB sockets on my motherboard. So, I shut my computer off and reinserted the USB connector; however, I unknowingly bent one of the pins in the USB socket such that it made contact with an adjacent pin, which must have created a short circuit when I turned the computer back on.

Now the computer won't post and the CPU's LED indicator illuminates red. So, I think that I killed my CPU. I've even bent the pin back into its original position, but the problem persists.

However, I'm not too bummed out because I was planning on upgrading to a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM soon. So, I guess soon has become tomorrow morning, after work.

I'm just worried that I also damaged the 3090. Is that a possibility? Its fans spin and its RGB lighting activates.

I've reconnected my 1080Ti to see if my PC would post, but it still doesn't post. So, I have some basis to believe that the issue isn't the graphics card.
 

Pagusas

Elden Member
Well, I know that some of you guys are going to love what happened to me today since some of you really dislike me.

Anyhow, my PNY RTX 3090 arrived today. I connected it to a vertical mount and booted my PC, but I realized afterward that the vertical mount knocked one of my case's USB connectors out of one of the USB sockets on my motherboard. So, I shut my computer off and reinserted the USB connector; however, I unknowingly bent one of the pins in the USB socket such that it made contact with an adjacent pin, which must have created a short circuit when I turned the computer back on.

Now the computer won't post and the CPU's LED indicator illuminates red. So, I think that I killed my CPU. I've even bent the pin back into its original position, but the problem persists.

However, I'm not too bummed out because I was planning on upgrading to a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM soon. So, I guess soon has become tomorrow morning, after work.

I'm just worried that I also damaged the 3090. Is that a possibility? Its fans spin and its RGB lighting activates.

I've reconnected my 1080Ti to see if my PC would post, but it still doesn't post. So, I have some basis to believe that the issue isn't the graphics card.

Whats your motherboard, most major mobos have built in fuses for shorts, that can be reset or repaired.
 

Ascend

Member
Well, I know that some of you guys are going to love what happened to me today since some of you really dislike me.

Anyhow, my PNY RTX 3090 arrived today. I connected it to a vertical mount and booted my PC, but I realized afterward that the vertical mount knocked one of my case's USB connectors out of one of the USB sockets on my motherboard. So, I shut my computer off and reinserted the USB connector; however, I unknowingly bent one of the pins in the USB socket such that it made contact with an adjacent pin, which must have created a short circuit when I turned the computer back on.

Now the computer won't post and the CPU's LED indicator illuminates red. So, I think that I killed my CPU. I've even bent the pin back into its original position, but the problem persists.

However, I'm not too bummed out because I was planning on upgrading to a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM soon. So, I guess soon has become tomorrow morning, after work.

I'm just worried that I also damaged the 3090. Is that a possibility? Its fans spin and its RGB lighting activates.

I've reconnected my 1080Ti to see if my PC would post, but it still doesn't post. So, I have some basis to believe that the issue isn't the graphics card.
I think there's a higher chance it's the chipset that got messed up.

You can try taking the CPU out and see if there are any signs of burning on the CPU 'pins'. You can do the same for the motherboard itself. I don't think your graphics card would have suffered damage. Chances are quite slim for that, although it's not impossible. It would have to damage the chipset and the CPU before it can reach the graphics card.
 
It sounds like they are expecting competition from AMD because these prices are way too reasonable considering how they have behaved in the last few years.

I'm probably going after a 3080 but next until the next year. Maybe even before a PS5.
Reasonable? HA $800 and $1500 is not reasonable.
Back when the geforce 3 launched it was flag ship card at $299. When the 8800gtx it was $500 and $400 for the gts. Those cards maxed everything for at least 4 years and I didn't have to upgrade until 7870 on the amd side. The fact that all you are willing to put the price of a down payment for a car for a gpu is just sad. Either that are you are all filthy rich or trust fundies. Either way i am jealous.

I'll wait for meager scraps of 3060 which they don't want to release for some reason. That will probably be super expensive too thanks to fucking miners and amd not releasing competitive gpus.


Don't know why you guys all put up with these insane prices.
 

Iorv3th

Member
Well, I know that some of you guys are going to love what happened to me today since some of you really dislike me.

Anyhow, my PNY RTX 3090 arrived today. I connected it to a vertical mount and booted my PC, but I realized afterward that the vertical mount knocked one of my case's USB connectors out of one of the USB sockets on my motherboard. So, I shut my computer off and reinserted the USB connector; however, I unknowingly bent one of the pins in the USB socket such that it made contact with an adjacent pin, which must have created a short circuit when I turned the computer back on.

Now the computer won't post and the CPU's LED indicator illuminates red. So, I think that I killed my CPU. I've even bent the pin back into its original position, but the problem persists.

However, I'm not too bummed out because I was planning on upgrading to a new CPU, motherboard, and RAM soon. So, I guess soon has become tomorrow morning, after work.

I'm just worried that I also damaged the 3090. Is that a possibility? Its fans spin and its RGB lighting activates.

I've reconnected my 1080Ti to see if my PC would post, but it still doesn't post. So, I have some basis to believe that the issue isn't the graphics card.

See if there is a switch for your BIOS. Something might have messed up in it. See if you can reset it or switch it to the other setting.
 

BluRayHiDef

Banned
See if there is a switch for your BIOS. Something might have messed up in it. See if you can reset it or switch it to the other setting.

I'll have to wait until tomorrow, since I'm headed to work now. Also, I hit the motherboard's reset button and nothing happened.
 

Kenpachii

Member
There is people in this thread on the first page calling it reasonable pricing. WTF...

Nvidia marketing for you.

700 bucks seems expensive for a x80 card? no problem.

PR department.

3090 10% faster then 3080 for some insane price that is way way higher. See how good of a value that 3080 is its insane and we all did this for you guys !!!

Idiots: OMG look at that 3080 so cheap almost as fast as 3090 which is 1500 euro worth !!!!! this is a insane deal !!!!!.

Nvidia:

Jen-Hsun-Huang-Tesla-Model-X-P90D.jpg


The same goes for the 3090:

OMG it has the same memory as TITAN that sold for 2400 dollars. ITS SO CHEAP GUYS.

Reality its just a 1080ti in current age which should have sold for 700 bucks. But oh well.
 
Nvidia marketing for you.

700 bucks seems expensive for a x80 card? no problem.

PR department.

3090 10% faster then 3080 for some insane price that is way way higher. See how good of a value that 3080 is its insane and we all did this for you guys !!!

Idiots: OMG look at that 3080 so cheap almost as fast as 3090 which is 1500 euro worth !!!!! this is a insane deal !!!!!.

Nvidia:

Jen-Hsun-Huang-Tesla-Model-X-P90D.jpg


The same goes for the 3090:

OMG it has the same memory as TITAN that sold for 2400 dollars. ITS SO CHEAP GUYS.

Reality its just a 1080ti in current age which should have sold for 700 bucks. But oh well.
598-5981259_troll-angry-crying-meme-depressed-memezasf-trendy-crying.png
 

regawdless

Banned
Prediction:

Cyberpunk drops, console versions look nothing like the trailers and it'll have performance issues at least on base consoles.
Next gen console patch not available for months to come. Next gen consoles themselves sold out.
Disappointed customers rushing out to buy Nvidia 30xx GPUs. Also all sold out.

What a dystopian future.

:messenger_tears_of_joy:
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
Hi Guys. I am getting this card-


for 14% above MSRP. Do you think thats a good deal? I dont really need it right away though. I am waiting for Ryzen 5000 series for my build but do want everything setup before or close to Cyberpunk (so max in a month). Should I wait or is this is a good enough deal for next month or so?
 
This is the boat I was in. The first two weeks of launch I'd get cards in my cart constantly, but upon checkout they'd disappear.

I gave up. All the restocks happen while I'm at work usually (seems like it's been Thursday the last 2-3 weeks). I can't sit and check my phone 24/7. And even if I could, the connection isn't amazing. The cards have yet to go in-stock while I'm off of work, so I'm basically screwed.

It's just not worth the hassle.
Add on to that all these people who are laid off from covid and at home twiddling their thumbs waiting to buy and scalp. In normal times such people would be working, but they are not and somehow have tons of money to buy 800 to 1500 gpus.

This really sucks for people like you and I who still go to work. What annoys me is these people staying home getting paid more than they usually would. It's artificaly making ceos and companies rich but inflating prices. In normal times top end cards would not pass the 700 mark as people wouldn't buy except for the handful who could afford a titan. Weird times having people laid off from work earning more and having more disposable income then people working.
 

kittoo

Cretinously credulous
Hi Guys. I am getting this card-


for 14% above MSRP. Do you think thats a good deal? I dont really need it right away though. I am waiting for Ryzen 5000 series for my build but do want everything setup before or close to Cyberpunk (so max in a month). Should I wait or is this is a good enough deal for next month or so?

Anyone? Please? I want to order as soon as possible since only 1 piece is left.
 

A.Romero

Member
Reasonable? HA $800 and $1500 is not reasonable.
Back when the geforce 3 launched it was flag ship card at $299. When the 8800gtx it was $500 and $400 for the gts. Those cards maxed everything for at least 4 years and I didn't have to upgrade until 7870 on the amd side. The fact that all you are willing to put the price of a down payment for a car for a gpu is just sad. Either that are you are all filthy rich or trust fundies. Either way i am jealous.

I'll wait for meager scraps of 3060 which they don't want to release for some reason. That will probably be super expensive too thanks to fucking miners and amd not releasing competitive gpus.


Don't know why you guys all put up with these insane prices.


Well, everything has gone up in price. It's not like they are essential items for living. They are luxury items. I'm willing to pay for top performance but is not like I couldn't continue playing 1080P at 30 fps if I needed. I used to be able to play on integrated GPUs or low end GPUs and still have a blast. You don't HAVE to upgrade. I don't know what you are currently running but you could spend much less if you want to max out games running a similar resolution that would run back in 2006.

Just as a reference, according to Wikipedia de 8800 GTX was $600 USD when it came out in 2006. Cumulative inflation since then is 29.1% meaning the same card would cost about $775 today. I don't think prices have really changed so much. Problem is wages haven't kept up with inflation that well.

I'm not a trust fund kid, sadly. I'm a 37 year old guy in a third world country. Minimum wage is about 200 usd a month. Just as a reference, I paid about 650 USD for my current 2080 Super. Hopefully you are in a situation where you could afford it if you wanted it enough. If the fact that I work hard and I'm able to afford a luxury item is sad, I don't know what to tell you.

I guess we put up with these prices because we feel is worth it and because we can. A tale as old as time.

Luckily you can chose to be smarter (from your own perspective) with your money and put down a down payment for a car.
 

bryjo3

Neo Member
Just an update: looks like I’m not the only one with the thought process to run the LG CX in 21:9


I don't care what linus says having 48 inches 2 feet from your face is NOT a solution for a computer monitor. It may be usable flat wall mounted if you have a deep desk where you could sit at least 3.5-4 feet center screen. for all purpose general use I have to agree with the general consensus that 35 inches is absolute max size i would want at typical monitor distance. I really wish lg would come out with a 32-35 inch oled, now THAT would be a suitable monitor replacement.

On the 3080, I just really feel 10GB VRAM is not going to cut it for a card you want to keep for the next 2-3 years. This happens EVERY SINGLE GENERATION where people undervalue the VRAM needs for next generation games.
 

BluRayHiDef

Banned
Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to connect both an RTX 3080 and an RTX 3090 to the same computer so that I could run games on each of them independently of the other and therefore compare the performance levels between them, could I do so?

Could I have Windows 10 display a separate desktop for each card and have each card connected to a separate HDMI port on my TV in order to do so?

Finally, would a 1000 PSU be enough to power both cards and a Ryzen 3950X?
 

J3nga

Member
Honest answer: money is a non issue for me but I hate the feeling of being screwed, so: NO. :messenger_grinning_sweat:
No one is trying to screw anybody. If you know that you don't need 24GB of VRAM and you're still going for it then you're screwing yourself on purpose. Not like there aren't any reviews with benchmarks and other graphs.
 
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Iorv3th

Member
Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to connect both an RTX 3080 and an RTX 3090 to the same computer so that I could run games on each of them independently of the other and therefore compare the performance levels between them, could I do so?

Could I have Windows 10 display a separate desktop for each card and have each card connected to a separate HDMI port on my TV in order to do so?

Finally, would a 1000 PSU be enough to power both cards and a Ryzen 3950X?

No.
 

CrustyBritches

Gold Member
More unofficial 3070 benchmark leaks via VideoCardz:

9jRxGCX.jpg


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The RTX 3070 scores 8,749 points in Fire Strike Ultra (Graphics) test with 17,115 points in Fire Strike Extreme. In Time Spy Extreme the card scores 6,907 points and 13,945 in the ‘performance’ preset. In ray tracing DX12 benchmark called Port Royal, the RTX 3070 scores 8324 points.

3070:
Fire Strike Ultra = 8,749
Fire Strike Extreme = 17,115
Time Spy Extreme = 6,907
Port Royal(RT) = 8,324

2080ti:
Fire Strike Ultra = 8,060
Fire Strike Extreme = 16,936
Time Spy Extreme = 6,352
Port Royal(RT) = 7,969
 
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Hypothetically speaking, if I wanted to connect both an RTX 3080 and an RTX 3090 to the same computer so that I could run games on each of them independently of the other and therefore compare the performance levels between them, could I do so?

Could I have Windows 10 display a separate desktop for each card and have each card connected to a separate HDMI port on my TV in order to do so?

Finally, would a 1000 PSU be enough to power both cards and a Ryzen 3950X?

Absolutely. Go for it.
 
I don't care what linus says having 48 inches 2 feet from your face is NOT a solution for a computer monitor. It may be usable flat wall mounted if you have a deep desk where you could sit at least 3.5-4 feet center screen. for all purpose general use I have to agree with the general consensus that 35 inches is absolute max size i would want at typical monitor distance. I really wish lg would come out with a 32-35 inch oled, now THAT would be a suitable monitor replacement.

On the 3080, I just really feel 10GB VRAM is not going to cut it for a card you want to keep for the next 2-3 years. This happens EVERY SINGLE GENERATION where people undervalue the VRAM needs for next generation games.

I've been running a 40" monitor since Jan 2016 about two feet from my face. I think I might go bigger when I replace it.

What about having a 35"+ monitor on your desk do you think doesn't work?
 

A.Romero

Member
Absolutely. Go for it.

Are you sure?

I'm thinking this wouldn't work as the poster is imagining. The reasons:

- PCI Express sockets often share bus or at least get capacity cut in half or can't be used at the same time (as in it has to queue data from one or the other)
- You wouldn't get the same performance from each card as if you had it in different computers because the CPU would become a bottleneck having to work with interrupts from 2 very fast devices.

It's not the same as using a GPU and an iGPU.

Haven't tried. Just thinking it wouldn't work for comparison purposes at least.
 

regawdless

Banned
Geforce experience is kinda dumb. I was just checking what it would propose as optimal settings for Quake 2 RTX.

4k DSR
90% resolution scaling
Global Illumination at low
All other RTX disabled
Refraction depth 1 (8 is max)

I'm playing at
1440p
100% resolution scaling
All RTX at max

Runs at 60+fps and looks great.
Baffling, that they propose those settings with RTX mostly turned off after you bought their expensive super duper RTX card.
 

bryjo3

Neo Member
I've been running a 40" monitor since Jan 2016 about two feet from my face. I think I might go bigger when I replace it.

What about having a 35"+ monitor on your desk do you think doesn't work?

I just feel the most comfortable viewing distance is 30-45 degree angle dead center as per rtings and many other home cinema guides. I also feel if you are playing anything competitive it really helps having the full image in your field of view, hence why most "pro" gamers uses 24 inch monitor. I feel 35 inches is the max distance that can still reasonably be in your entire field of view at normal desk distances. Now, if you want to argue immersion and being "blown" away by gaming on a screen that is significantly off axis field of view wise that is another argument all together.

Having a 48 inch screen 2 feet away is the equivalent of sitting front row at the movie theater to me, I would rather have an ideal distance. 35 inches is PLENTY at 2 feet, my ultrawide feels huge, and I think 32 inch 4k is actually the sweet spot "all-arounder". I am not hating on the big screen size, I just think for all-purpose, good for every game from space sims, to counterstrike 35 inches is the max.
 
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