Nah I hate Jim Ryan and want him gone.
So which dick are you sucking in the (I game on PC and therefor I'm not an idiot) land??? I mean there's so many like Bill, Jensen or good ol Gabe??? I mean there's so many you'll be too busy....
I think it's the publisher not willing to pay Sony for their revenue share thing exposed too us during the epic v apple thing. I havn't got through the whole video yet but that what it seems to be.
To arms sonygaf!!!!
If I bought something for say Fortnite on IOS and then carried my game over to Android and vice versa would the purchases of items carry over?You're making your purchase on iOS or Google (which also takes 30%). They went ballistic over Epic telling people to buy Vbucks on their own store and not iOS.
Project Liberty but shittierBut the tweet doesn't make any sense if its about paying. Gearbox went in and was already working on crossplay on Sony. This revenue system didn't sneak up on them. So why would they have started work on that knowing they'd pay then tell Sony "F off"?
If I bought something for say Fortnite on IOS and then carried my game over to Android and vice versa would the purchases of items carry over?
Nobody cares about crossplay except fans of other consoles...Putting the death grip on users will just lead to more of them leaving. Games missing features on one console is never a good look.
Wonder how this with effect Destiny 2 with there cross play stuff next year.
Nobody cares about crossplay except fans of other consoles...
Its a business move
For example, If theres only 500 people playing on the Nintendo and 2000 people playing on the Playstation, why should playstation help out Nintendo’s users base to have more players to play with?
4 the players, yeah the playstation players lol
How does this effect Playstation users? Are they missing out?
So with Sony it's not the crossplay that is the real issue but Sony players spending their cash on mtx items on other platforms.Yes, everything Fortnite is tied to your Epic account. Doesn't matter where you buy something, once it's bought it's on your account regardless of where you play.
Even the PS+ freebies they give out on PlayStation can be used on the other platforms.
The only thing in Fortnite that segregated is Vbucks on PlayStation. Vbucks you buy on PlayStation can only be used there. But if you buy Vbucks on PC/Xbox/Mobile they can be used anywhere except PlayStation.
I think Sony would be better off having a rethink about this strategy. General crossplay would benefit everyone. I can see Sony being stubborn due to losing money on skins and items on other platforms etc.People with real life friends and family (I know, this is a strange concept to some people) care.
I have a co-worker who I play stuff like Fortnite or CoD with. He only has an Xbox One. My nephew and brother-in-law play a lot of Fortnite. They only have a Switch and PS4. With crossplay we can all be in a squad regardless of what platform. I can be on anything, my co-worker on his XBO, my newphew on his Switch, and my brother-in-law on their PS4.
Sony pissing me off lately with their closed system.
genshin isnt crossplay and should be. Idk Sony doing bad shit to their rep this gen. A lot of non consumer friendly decisions.
might explain why i havnt purchased any playstation titles in over a year now.
It could be a glitch or something else of course, but don't discount the possibility of a last ditch effort to avoid paying for it by getting people mad at Sony. Epic just recently tried strong arming Apple that way with the in game videos after breaking Apple's rules and getting Fortnite removed.But the tweet doesn't make any sense if its about paying. Gearbox went in and was already working on crossplay on Sony. This revenue system didn't sneak up on them. So why would they have started work on that knowing they'd pay then tell Sony "F off"?
The punisher.
So Sony allow you to play with PC and mobile players but not Xbox or Nintendo?Genshin is cross play. You can play with mobile and Pc users. It’s not cross progression
Nobody cares about crossplay except fans of other consoles...
Hopefully they will use some of the 18.6 billion to buy Bungie or Destiny at least.
Nope, Sony don’t want you can buy your DLC on other platform and play on your PlayStation. But you can play fortnite with Xbox and Switch users. Genshin is not on Switch or Xbox currentlySo Sony allow you to play with PC and mobile players but not Xbox or Nintendo?
So Sony allow you to play with PC and mobile players but not Xbox or Nintendo?
Sony probably want to be paid for nothing again.
#Inb4foolishjustificationposts
But you can’t buy a PlayStation because of them? I mean that is very selfish.two poeple using ps4 were going to buy it because of me.
For all we know the certification process (quality control) might just be more thorough on Playstation than other platforms for cross-play.
Well you can’t cross play with versions of the game that doesn’t exists lolSo Sony allow you to play with PC and mobile players but not Xbox or Nintendo?
I play Hunt: Outlaws and Legends on my Series X. My oldest son plays on his PS4. If either of us turn cross play off, it takes ages to find a game. With it on, it takes seconds. So yes in this case, the PlayStation users miss out if there were no crossplay.
It’s really not an issue on bigger MP titles because there is a user base large on each platform. But when you get into the less popular MP titles, crossplay is routinely a life saver.
Maybe you aren’t into MP much or don’t have many friends, in which case I’d wonder why you care.
It seems that Sony wants the publisher to pay and publisher doesn't. I have seen people blame the publisher but I don't get that.
That we know of, Sony is the only company that charges publishers for enabling cross play
Bringing up x360 stuff is irrelevant in current year. I had/have a ps3 and not a 360 and I was annoyed with the lack of crossplay then, too. Expecting every person would just buy a console in the current market to play with friends when the biggest games offer crossplay is dated. ESPECIALLY if those games aren't cross-purchase like Fortnite microtransactions. The point of the Epic contract that leaked was to get some money back if a user is buying items on a different system, but the majority of userbase is on a PlayStation. If you HAVE to buy your stuff on PlayStation even if you can play with friends, what's the big deal? Sony will still get their money via the game sold, the DLC sold, and the user playing on their console. It's just greed at this point when Stadia, Android, iOS, Xbox, fucking Luna will seemingly all allow cross play, but Sony won't in certain senarios.So much hyperbole... We don’t even have enough details yet to know who to “blame” for this “issue!”
Question: does Sony have the *right* to charge a “potential lost console sales” fee to a publisher who wants them to allow crossplay with competing consoles? As a businessman, I say 100% yes. It is a business not a charity! And those other console owners have the ability (and right) to buy a PS4 at any time in order to gain access to that playerbase. Also, at least Sony allows this with a fee! Back in the X360 days, Microsoft just said No (which was their right too, by the way). And no, enabling X360 crossplay with PC was not benevolent of Microsoft at all— all PC owners have paid the “Microsoft tax” already, by virtue of buying a PC with Windows.
tl;dr:
Xbox guy: “I wanna play with PS people, but bad guy Sony won’t let me do it for free! Waaaah!”
That is a really bad thing for the industry.
Hope this changes very soon
How does anybody justify lack of cross play as a good thing? And no the industry was not working well, several online games likely died early deaths because of a lack of cross play.How? The industry was working quite fine without cross play. Now cross play is here (with PlayStation too). Just not for Borderlands 3 at this moment. But it may come back later.
It's for the same reason MS wouldn't even consider it when they were the leader with the 360.I don't see why it's good news. At this point the more people you can play this game with the better? Sony does really take their heels in about cross play for whatever reason.
i dont think he thought that through lolBut you can’t buy a PlayStation because of them? I mean that is very selfish.
Boycott PlayStation.
How does anybody justify lack of cross play as a good thing? And no the industry was not working well, several online games likely died early deaths because of a lack of cross play.
You are right, cross-save is what i should have said and meant. Just an example of PS anti consumer closed ecosystem policies. Obviously to lock players into MTX purchases via PS store...Genshin is cross play. You can play with mobile and Pc users. It’s not cross progression. The problem with Sony is not cross play, it’s cross progression, they don’t want you play on PlayStation but paying micro transactions on your mobile to Google or Apple
Yeah I don't get it either. People expect crossplay to save a game's dwindling playerbase like it's a universal solution when in fact if the game was good in the first place, we wouldn't be having this discussion in the first place.This is something people don’t understand and they don’t care because they probably didn’t play any of those games anyway. Just look at one of the people making tons of defense posts, “I don’t play those games” and “all of my friends play on PlayStation”. So then why do you care
Battleborn and Evolve are two games I played a ton of on PlayStation and Xbox and towards the end of their life, neither had a healthy player base and if crossplay were in those games, players would have had better experiences on either console.
I just don’t get the apologists. There’s zero negative impact for Sony here if they allow cross play without requiring publishers to pay them. It’s just a shitty move.
How does anybody justify lack of cross play as a good thing? And no the industry was not working well, several online games likely died early deaths because of a lack of cross play.
This is something people don’t understand and they don’t care because they probably didn’t play any of those games anyway. Just look at one of the people making tons of defense posts, “I don’t play those games” and “all of my friends play on PlayStation”. So then why do you care
Battleborn and Evolve are two games I played a ton of on PlayStation and Xbox and towards the end of their life, neither had a healthy player base and if crossplay were in those games, players would have had better experiences on either console.
I just don’t get the apologists. There’s zero negative impact for Sony here if they allow cross play without requiring publishers to pay them. It’s just a shitty move.
Just because nobody outside of your PlayStation fanboy bubble likes you doesn't mean it's the same for everyone else.Nobody cares about crossplay except fans of other consoles...
Hopefully they will use some of the 18.6 billion to buy Bungie or Destiny at least.