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Why do people get over protective for their favorite console?

NahaNago

Member
Folks do this for tons of things. From sports teams, to cellphones(apple), to drinks, cars, kpop idols, movie stars, graphic cards, sound systems, clothes, and political stance. It is just normal to go warring for the things you like or agree with. When you have more than one option folks are going to fight to prove that their choice is the correct one.
 

kadab

Member
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Because they sleep with it!
 

Drizzlehell

Banned
Many sages have tried to solve this conundrum over the years by putting forth numerous different theories. But, in the end, I think we can all agree on one thing...

Sega sucks, lol
 

MadViking

Member
It's a practical thing. If "my" console is successful and sells more, then it is more attractive to the developers. They will invest more and risk more, so there is a better chance the games will be better, more varied and creative. In the end it's a win for me.
 

Strider311

Member
Just a guess, but I think it has to do with not being able to afford multiple consoles. They get the one and then feel they need to defend the purchase they made to feel validated.

it’s nonsensical and stupid. I want ALL THE GAMES.
 

Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
We PC gamers do not war with consoles. There is nothing to war, because we can't lose. Consoles CAN lose, so you war.


And why do tribes war? Because they fight for survival.

Seriously, I already gave out the answer earlier in the thread. You war when the stake is death. Consoles are perpetially at a knife's edge from doom. Trying to say it is stupid, is just trying to deny the truth.
It is stupid saying it's not is just denying that it's stupid. 🤣
 

GymWolf

Member
Some people love to defend what they pay for.

We learn this concept during kindergarten time but some people can't shake it off while growing up.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
It's a practical thing. If "my" console is successful and sells more, then it is more attractive to the developers. They will invest more and risk more, so there is a better chance the games will be better, more varied and creative. In the end it's a win for me.
Wii sold great. Had terrible third party games. Switch third party games are bad too unless someone likes indies.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
We PC gamers do not war with consoles. There is nothing to war, because we can't lose. Consoles CAN lose, so you war.


And why do tribes war? Because they fight for survival.

Seriously, I already gave out the answer earlier in the thread. You war when the stake is death. Consoles are perpetially at a knife's edge from doom. Trying to say it is stupid, is just trying to deny the truth.
Exactly this… this elite pc gamer thinking.
you have everything to loose and you are loosing a war with yourself.
extreme prices. More and more stores, only digital.
and don’t get me wrong. I got 3080 pc. I am a pc gamer since 1997… And I am hoping pc will not win.
 
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Paasei

Member
I don't throw my consoles away! No way.

But I don’t get it, either. Just play what you like and be happy. But I'll always have popcorn ready for drama. No interference from me.
 

Mr Reasonable

Completely Unreasonable
Because unlike PCs
No offence intended here, but I always wonder why pc players try to be both above console wars but also desperate to be seen to be winning. It's exactly the same thing, only sort of worse because nobody was arguing with pc players, nor do they want to, yet pc players are always jumping in to make their case. "Of course if you had a pc you wouldn't need to worry about this, I just play my games and don't ever do console wars, but oh god, notice me, please notice me" that's how it has seemed to me for years.
 
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Caio

Member
There is only one answer, because they are childish. There is no point to act like a "warrior" or be over protective, and there is no justification for doing so. Nothing will ever change. Some associate this attitude with supporting their football team with insane passion, but I don't think it's a positive attitude anyway.
 

jufonuk

not tag worthy
Its just gaming machine, which you will throw it away once you are done having with it. You wasting all these hours protecting it, and mocking other people. Its borderline unhealthy, and weird.

So why do people go overboard with it?

For me personally, I just play it, and mind my business. I have real life to worry about. I am not wasting my time arguing with stranger, with my console.

Its little bit hard to understand these behaviors.
Tribalism

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Whitecrow

Banned
Its just gaming machine, which you will throw it away once you are done having with it. You wasting all these hours protecting it, and mocking other people. Its borderline unhealthy, and weird.

So why do people go overboard with it?

For me personally, I just play it, and mind my business. I have real life to worry about. I am not wasting my time arguing with stranger, with my console.

Its little bit hard to understand these behaviors.
Yet you still care enough to make a thread?

People is not defending a plastic box, they are defending a choice that cost them a lot of money and they want to feel it has the right value
 

MadViking

Member
Wii sold great. Had terrible third party games. Switch third party games are bad too unless someone likes indies.
Why are you talking about third party? In fact I was meaning first party mainly. Also I wrote "better chance", not that it's guaranteed. And Wii was a bit different, it's success was mainly among casuals, I don't remember many Wii fanboys at the time.
 

Buggy Loop

Member
Brand tribalism

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Marketing tactics have exploited this for a long time. It’s why some peoples feel they have to justify why the brand of car they picked was the best choice over all others, their TV, the house they picked in the neighborhood, the city they live in vs the adjacent one just because a river separates them (the other side always sucks), etc.

That and what I also suspect a lot of paid astroturfers that stir shit or always either start a thread of a competitor’s successful game to shit on it, or flood the positive threads with fake concerns, fake problems, fake impressions, etc. Or actually hyper positive about their brand, goes both ways. Remember the guy who openly admitted to Cyberpunk 2077 chilling, paid by CDPR around launch? There’s probably a ton of them.
 
Exactly this… this elite pc gamer thinking.
you have everything to loose and you are loosing a war with yourself.
extreme prices. More and more stores, only digital.
and don’t get me wrong. I got 3080 pc. I am a pc gamer since 1997… And I am hoping pc will not win.
I don't know what you are talking about, PC can't win or lose because it is an amorphous blob of near literal cancer that can't die. And PC gaming is what it is, a mess, not just the top of the line power gamers.

Consoles are owned by and controlled by single business entities, and as such they can and do die because the decision to do so is in the hands of very few people.
 
Folks do this for tons of things. From sports teams, to cellphones(apple), to drinks, cars, kpop idols, movie stars, graphic cards, sound systems, clothes, and political stance. It is just normal to go warring for the things you like or agree with. When you have more than one option folks are going to fight to prove that their choice is the correct one.
Except Apple vs Samsung/Android nothing comes even close to it. I don't like the sports teams comparison since sports is about sense of togetherness, fair play, events, victories/losses and it's a real hobby, a passion. Console warring alone on your keyboard trying to taunt and make the owners of the other plastic toy feel bad on the other hand is just pathetic.
 

NahaNago

Member
Except Apple vs Samsung/Android nothing comes even close to it. I don't like the sports teams comparison since sports is about sense of togetherness, fair play, events, victories/losses and it's a real hobby, a passion. Console warring alone on your keyboard trying to taunt and make the owners of the other plastic toy feel bad on the other hand is just pathetic.
I'm guessing the biggest difference in console gaming and sports teams warring is that you actually are the player and owner versus watching someone else play. So you feel more ownership and bias towards your console.

That real hobby and passion thing is throwing me off. I'm pretty sure folks are passionate about snes and sega genesis and for them collecting and playing those games are their hobby and would fight/argue over which is the better console.
 
I'm guessing the biggest difference in console gaming and sports teams warring is that you actually are the player and owner versus watching someone else play. So you feel more ownership and bias towards your console.

That real hobby and passion thing is throwing me off. I'm pretty sure folks are passionate about snes and sega genesis and for them collecting and playing those games are their hobby and would fight/argue over which is the better console.
I was talking about fanboys/console warriors, not fans. That's a difference. There is a funny pic that says "XY fanboys don't love their favorite system, they just hate yours". Couldn't be more true.
 

GametimeUK

Member
Because people think their subjective opinions are objective facts. There's a lack of comprehending that other people may just prefer different features and games to you. What is important to person A may not be important to person B.

An Xbox fan may not understand why someone likes God of War but not like Halo. Instead of accepting it was personal preference there's a desire to prove the other person wrong for whatever reason and also feel the need to justify the purchase of their shiny new console.

The funny thing is it shouldn't be a debate. Neither persons opinion are wrong, they are just opinions.
 

Metnut

Member
Millions of years of evolution has conditioned us to form into groups and reject people outside of our groups. This served us very well on the savannah in prehistory when you needed a group to secure food and a shelter site and protect you from other groups that wanted to kill you and take your food and women.

Now, now people really get into their favorite console, sports team or political party.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
I don't know what you are talking about, PC can't win or lose because it is an amorphous blob of near literal cancer that can't die. And PC gaming is what it is, a mess, not just the top of the line power gamers.

Consoles are owned by and controlled by single business entities, and as such they can and do die because the decision to do so is in the hands of very few people.
Well then I prefer a curated, ready to play and cheaper console solution. At least lately.
Pc is of course the ultimate platform... I have over 600 fucking steam games. OH I KNOW a thing or two about pc gaming and that's why I love/hate it.
The older I get, the less patience I get for it though
 
Well then I prefer a curated, ready to play and cheaper console solution. At least lately.
Pc is of course the ultimate platform... I have over 600 fucking steam games. OH I KNOW a thing or two about pc gaming and that's why I love/hate it.
The older I get, the less patience I get for it though
I never claimed console gaming was bad at any time. I merely stating my observation that console war is the effect of STRESS. Fear of your console family ceasing to be, like Sega.

People here wondering why so much hostility towards rivals? Because the paradox is that despite being a console walled garden, what makes the most money is actually third party games. And thus the biggest source of funding is not actually guaranteed to stay-put. You just need to drop in total platform numbers for these games to disappear. And the biggest cause of drop in console numbers is if they are switching sides.

As mentioned in my previous post, there is actually very little effect in console waring. It doesn't matter how much fans cry and shout, they were never going to save Dreamcast, let alone worse failures like the Atari Jaguar.

I agree that console waring is in essence, futile. That no console ever get saved or killed by fanboy arguments. But the customers of a console still feel real anxiety and thus feel they had to do something. Calling it tribalism is correct, you just are dismissing it as if giving it a name somehow makes it unimportant. Tribes are in constant stress of being destroyed, that's why they fight for survival. And sometimes tribes do pointless shit because they didn't know anything else to do that could work.

(Nintendo walked off and did their own thing, deciding that money from 1st parties is good enough and focused on that.)

Console wars exist because people are scared, And they have a reason to be scared. Console gaming might survive a long time, but no specific console family is truly immune from ending.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
console war is the effect of STRESS
That might be it.
You come home, relax on your fav console/pc/whatever. You had a hard day and spent a lot of money on your relaxation device.
Only for someone to say that you thing is shit and this other thing is the real deal when it comes to relaxation and you are doing it wrong.
This is probably a part of it. I feel this way sometimes too
 

Goalus

Member
i have no clue why playstation fanboys, are the way they are. Brain damage is the only way i could understand why u look at any xbox related tweet and the replies are just crazy ppl posting "xbox sucks"..."playstation better" etc.
It seems to be a deeply rooted feeling of insecurity and inferiority complex on their side.
There is a car equivalent of the console war right now. It is called Tesla.

Not Tesla attacking other companies; other car companies attacking Tesla. Tesla is fine. But car owners of other brands are starting to notice that their own car company is actually under threat for once. And this leads to mud slinging of epic proportions. This just proves that it isn't "being suprior" that causes brand wars, but "Threats to survival".

If you know your car company won't survive going full EVs, you would want EVs to fail. Because the alternative is the disappearance of the company. That is the source of waring.
That is true.
But on the other hand, the Tesla fanboys and shareholders are exactly the same species who display their own insecurity on every occasion, e.g.
- Porsche Taycan Turbo S beating Tesla Model S Raven in a drag race
- Rimac Nevera demolishing Tesla Model S Plaid in a drag race
- George Hotz and comma.ai making progress with their Autopilot competitor

I'd say that Tesla fanboys are even more insecure (and thus embarassing) than Sony fanboys.
 
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That might be it.
You come home, relax on your fav console/pc/whatever. You had a hard day and spent a lot of money on your relaxation device.
Only for someone to say that you thing is shit and this other thing is the real deal when it comes to relaxation and you are doing it wrong.
This is probably a part of it. I feel this way sometimes too
The relaxation device of your choice, if it is a console, can drop off the ecosystem quickly. And games that were unique to it could never see the light of day again. Despite Sega surviving as a software company, only some of its IPs are still active. And people are still asking for this or that title to be revived.

Third party games are both the prize and the cause of console wars. Third party money allow console platforms to stay wealthy, but their existence in a rival machine with similar functions is actually why most people don't buy both consoles. Fundamentally the title overlap means buying both equals one game console not being played 90 percent of the time. it is not about wealth, it is a waste. It is why most homes only have one vacuum cleaner. Why would you buy two?
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
The relaxation device of your choice, if it is a console, can drop off the ecosystem quickly. And games that were unique to it could never see the light of day again. Despite Sega surviving as a software company, only some of its IPs are still active. And people are still asking for this or that title to be revived.

Third party games are both the prize and the cause of console wars. Third party money allow console platforms to stay wealthy, but their existence in a rival machine with similar functions is actually why most people don't buy both consoles. Fundamentally the title overlap means buying both equals one game console not being played 90 percent of the time. it is not about wealth, it is a waste. It is why most homes only have one vacuum cleaner. Why would you buy two?
360 is dead too but I kept it and the games.
Next gen I had ps4 and now ps5.
All the time along side, a pc.

I don't see a lot of reason to own two consoles at the same time too. That's why I got ps5 and pc.
 

NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
Most people start playing games as kids. Peer pressure, tribalism and the need for social score at that age are terrible. Game companies have been exploiting this for a long time, too - desperate Sega had to basically invent console wars to have a chance, and it paid off for them for a while, but it left us with a legacy of “my console does what yours doesn’t” that simply won’t die.

Also, sunk cost fallacy and all that jazz. You’ve bought a turd because of hype, you feel like you have to justify it.
Btw, nothing wrong in enjoying your Virtual Boy or other piece of failed hardware. Just don’t deny the many problems the machine has. There’s a silver lining to almost anything.
 

teezzy

Banned
Humans do that with all kinds of material possessions. Cars, handbags, phones, etc. Common thing nowadays.

Probably a sign of a much greater sociological void in today's current age :messenger_confounded:

Why are so many so unfulfilled by life? It's sad.
 
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I personally know that if I had to I would throw my kids under the bus, burn bridges with my parents and breakup with the gf before I say anything negative or even lukewarm about the PS5!

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