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Halo Infinite Multiplayer is out NOW

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
It’s not quite that easy of a comparison though. Controllers are significantly better now, as is input latency, customisation of controls, and also the game is now 60/120 fps vs 30fps.
There is no excuse for a >10% accuracy advantage.

Let alone how any random jimmy mcdumbfuck can aim as good if not better than the best M&K players.

The controller aimbot is as strong as it has ever been. It's every bit as childish as it was in Halo 5.
 
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Kagey K

Banned
There is no excuse for a >10% accuracy advantage.

Let alone how any random jimmy mcdumbfuck can aim as good if not better than the best M&K players.

The controller aimbot is as strong as it has ever been. It's every bit as childish as it was in Halo 5.
Play with a controller if you feel that gimped. It's not hard.
 

G-DannY

Member
Oh look, it's that retarded "argument"

Halo 3 50s, Single digit onyx Reach, onyx Halol 5.

Try again.

so basically you always benefitted aim assist on controller in that games (especially H5) and now you are Williamwallacing bitching a battle against "controller aimbot" on Halo Infinite?

ok man, keep the good fight!

I need to start to fill up a bit my ignore list probably...
 
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SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
so basically you always benefitted aim assist on controller in that games (especially H5) and now you are Williamwallacing bitching a battle against "controller aimbot" on Halo Infinite?

ok man, keep the good fight!

I don't recall there being multiple input styles in previous games.

I do however recall shitting on Halo 5 specifically because of it's insanely strong aim assist removing any aiming skill gap the game could have

I need to start to fill up a bit my ignore list probably...
keep licking them boots.
 

K' Dash

Member
Take a break from the thread if you can’t discuss like an adult.
Oh look, it's that retarded "argument"

Halo 3 50s, Single digit onyx Reach, onyx Halol 5.

Try again.

I'm going to guess that you're 12 and suck at the game. That or maybe you can see your IQ on the face of a clock.
 

SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
I'm going to guess that you're 12 and suck at the game. That or maybe you can see your IQ on the face of a clock.

Jennifer Lawrence Reaction GIF


Funny how I'm not desperately trying to defend babies first shooter auto aim.
 
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Graciaus

Member
Maybe I'm just not as good as I use to be but I find the aim assist to be odd. If I'm jumping around trying to aim with the right stick it doesn't seem to stick like it use to. On a level height just moving the left stick instead is an easy perfect.

My controller most be broken since unless I keep one of the settings at the max my guy moves on his own.
 

Phase

Member
Maybe I'm just not as good as I use to be but I find the aim assist to be odd. If I'm jumping around trying to aim with the right stick it doesn't seem to stick like it use to. On a level height just moving the left stick instead is an easy perfect.

My controller most be broken since unless I keep one of the settings at the max my guy moves on his own.
Keep upping the deadzones until there is no stick drift. If you have to go really high it's most likely because the controller is old, worn out, and the sticks are loose.

For example, my current deadzones are 11 on the left stick (this doesn't really matter all the much since movement in Halo doesn't have to be ultra precise) and 7 on the right stick (that's where the drifting finally stops on my controller). If it's brand new you should be able to put the deadzones very low.
 

Havoc2049

Member
I’m having a great time with this game. Act like the progression system and gross monetization do not exist and just have a good time.
This is the best way to play the game. As soon as I start chasing all the crappy weapon specific and rare event specific challenges, I start not having fun and become one of those assholios that isn't helping out my team in a match, because I'm running to a weapon locker looking for a crappy weapon to try and get some kills with.

They need to ditch these crappy challenges and go strait up to what the MCC does in XP for each match and the Challenges for XP.
Some of the MCC PVP Challenges this week:
Win 3 Social Matchmade Games
Win 2 Competitive Matchmade Games
1 Top 3 Finish
Earn 10 Multikill Medals
Earn 10 Objective Medals
15 kills with a vehicle
25 Sniper Weapon Kills
 

MidGenRefresh

*Refreshes biennially
67 hours in. This is the best playing Halo ever.

I fired up MC Collection and played one game of 4v4 Slayer in Halo 3 just to refresh my memory.

Infinite is just an infinitely better playing game. All it needs now is c-o-n-t-e-n-t. ASAP.

If 343 is holding back any maps or modes for "future updates" they need to cut the crap and release it on 8th of December.
 

Hendrick's

If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I fired up MC Collection and played one game of 4v4 Slayer in Halo 3 just to refresh my memory.

Infinite is just an infinitely better playing game. All it needs now is c-o-n-t-e-n-t. ASAP.

If 343 is holding back any maps or modes for "future updates" they need to cut the crap and release it on 8th of December.
I expect they will have something for the 8th. Two new maps (one for BTB) would be the best content they could add.
 
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splattered

Member


That's amazing... wow!

So last night i decided to go back and play some COD Vanguard for a while as i finally got samurai armor in Infinite.

I was fooling myself saying Vanguard was decent... feels like absolute trash after playing Halo so much :( I'm still having fun with it, but man the controls, performance, and just pretty much everything suck compared to Halo. Oof. I do appreciate the change in game world and variation in weapons and maps though. Need to go back and check out Battlefield soon now that they've patched some stuff, i've heard it feels much better now.
 

01011001

Banned
Controller users get more aim assist, m/kb users can turn on a dime. It’s probably a wash.

it's not. you rarely need fast turning in Halo, pro players actually play at even lower than max settings, which is already super slow compared to other games... their aim is set so slow it's crazy, because in Halo you don't need it.
if you have to turn around fast in a Halo match, you did something wrong basically because it's all about map control

and if you know a thing or two about how good players usually play on controller you know it's not normal to prefer slow sensitivity in any other shooter. usually you go for close to max or absolutely maxed out in stuff like Apex Legends on controller

the aim assist + bullet magmatism is so crazy strong that it literally makes weapons that are not viable on Mouse, absolutely viable on controller

the Sidekick is a good example. on Mouse you have to pace your shots no matter the distance. but on controller, as soon as you are in RRR you can just spam the right tigger and hit almost every shot. the massive amount of bloom of that gun gets to some degree neutralised by the bullet magnetism.
 
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VAVA Mk2

Member
There is no excuse for a >10% accuracy advantage.

Let alone how any random jimmy mcdumbfuck can aim as good if not better than the best M&K players.

The controller aimbot is as strong as it has ever been. It's every bit as childish as it was in Halo 5.
It isn't. I had to adjust stick settings to get aiming somewhat acceptable on controller. People complaining about controller aiming clearly haven't played in past as aim assist is wayyyy less than it once was.
 

MidGenRefresh

*Refreshes biennially
I'm watching EU HCS Open Qualifier. Can anyone explain to me why these pros are using the Heatwave in horizontal and not vertical aim?

 
im sorry but im playing the worlds smallest violin for mouse and keyboard players....because for years i have to watch streams and youtube vids of PC gamers playing FPS games, with about zero recoil. Just laser beaming ppl across maps, with weapons that shouldn't even logically be able to do that from that range. Whipping around and turning their head inhumanely fast.
 

Flintty

Member
I want to play the game by myself. I don't want a fucking algorithm to shoot for me, thanks.
I've put a lot of hours in on the XSX and never felt like the game was playing for me. There's a decent balance between controller handicap assist and having to work for your headshots, to the point where I still get excited when I pull off a decent headshot. I don't see what the fuss is about.
 

Kagey K

Banned
I want to play the game by myself. I don't want a fucking algorithm to shoot for me, thanks.
It doesn’t work like that, try playing with and controller and you’ll find the whole issue is greatly exaggerated.

which was the point I was trying to make to the other guy.
 
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Uiki

Member
It doesn’t work like that, try playing with and controller and you’ll find the whole issue is greatly exaggerated.

which was the point I was trying to make to the other guy.
I'm diamond on controller..

It's absolutely not exaggerated. It will die in a couple of weeks on pc with the current state of things, like mcc did.
 
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Flintty

Member
I'm diamond on controller..

It's absolutely not exaggerated. It will die in a couple of weeks on pc with the current state of things, like mcc did.
Is that (you being diamond on controller) not a symptom of M/Kb being borked rather than an issue with controllers?

Like, I've had serious near misses with the sniper rifle. It's not a case of aim within 1m of the head to get a headshot. You do actually have to try :)
 

Uiki

Member
Is that (you being diamond on controller) not a symptom of M/Kb being borked rather than an issue with controllers?
No, what? Why would it be something wrong with m+k? I'm diamond on a controller in a controller only playlist. M+K has nothing to do with it.

It's pretty clear looking at stats what's the problem here. And it's not really a problem, it's a choice 343 made. Halo is a console franchise and it's understandable that they lean towards controller. But they marketed the game as console and pc shooter. And with the current state of aa there's not a single chance that the game will survive, let alone thrive, on pc. Tweaking it It's for the sake of the game now that they finally nailed the gameplay.
 
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Flintty

Member
No, what? Why would it be something wrong with m+k? I'm diamond on a controller in a controller only playlist. M+K has nothing to do with it.

It's pretty clear looking at stats what's the problem here. And it's not really a problem, it's a choice 343 made. Halo is a console franchise and it's understandable that they lean towards controller. But they marketed the game as console and pc shooter. And with the current state of aa there's not a single chance that the game will survive, let alone thrive, on pc. Tweaking it It's for the sake of the game now that they finally nailed the gameplay.
I don't play M/Kb but I read that there were issues with being to aim as well as people do in other twitch shooters. I'm not an expert though.
 

Uiki

Member
I don't play M/Kb but I read that there were issues with being to aim as well as people do in other twitch shooters. I'm not an expert though.
There are no "mechanical" problems in aiming with m+k. There is just no way of keeping up with aa in crossplay playlists (and you can't filter out control methods if you play in a party of 4...).
 

twilo99

Member
So it's half time Man U vs Chelsea Sky Sports UK and straight into Halo adverts, Xbox getting serious this holiday!

One at beginning of adverts then another at the end..

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Seems that way and its so much easier to advertise a solid product when you've got one..
 

twilo99

Member
I was fooling myself saying Vanguard was decent... feels like absolute trash after playing Halo so much :( I'm still having fun with it, but man the controls, performance, and just pretty much everything suck compared to Halo. Oof. I do appreciate the change in game world and variation in weapons and maps though. Need to go back and check out Battlefield soon now that they've patched some stuff, i've heard it feels much better now.

Really? I think Vanguard is very good.. shooting the guns there feels very satisfying and the game looks crips, at least on PC. I play both games and I think I enjoy them equally. Looking forward to that new Warzone map and the anticheat they promised, hopefully it does something..

Halo is amazing tho.. I think I'll give it a serious go for a few weeks and see what kind of skill level I get to.
 

twilo99

Member
I don't play M/Kb but I read that there were issues with being to aim as well as people do in other twitch shooters. I'm not an expert though.

If the game gains enough momentum, it won't matter what platform you are playing on since you can use controller on PC. For example with Warzone 90% of the streamers and "pro" play with a controller, but almost none of them actually play on console... they play on PCs with controllers. Best of both worlds for that particular game, I don't see why it would be different for Halo.

Microsoft gave us a lot of options.
 
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