ChuckeRearmed
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Nah. People don't jump over platforms just due to perks. After all buying console is already 400+ investment. Nobody switches platforms over "free coins every month".
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Our desire is to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation - Phil Spencer
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Gavon West
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Yeah. This makes Sony look weak. And, well, Microsoft look absurd and merciful at the same time. It's so weird!
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I think the unknown is what exactly Microsoft would want from the deal. Because as soon as GP goes on PlayStation the value of actually owning an Xbox collapses. So logically Ms would be looking for enough to compensate for the loss of all that income AND a big supplement just to make the risk of upheaval worth it.
So that's probably going to entail squeezing Sony's cut down to like 10% or whatever. It would be such a huge change. So much risk on both sides.
They will push to get gamepass on PS and when they fail, they will say: "we tried" and make COD exclusive.
xHunter
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"Had good calls this week with leaders at Sony. I confirmed our intent to honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard and our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation. Thats why I decided to buy fucking PlayStation next. Im coming for you, Jim"
fixed the tweet.
fixed the tweet.
01011001
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so back on 360 when every new CoD sold 2x as many copies on Xbox 360 as on PS3 never happened apparently...
these things can swing back and forth real fast
Andodalf
Banned
It would be a limited Gamepass with only the exclusives
lmao. Okay use this logic to explain why Starfield is exclusive. Gl bro
Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
They really were. That's exactly what happened.Sony were shitting themselves with Call of Duty being exclusive to Xbox/Windows
this is the way
Craig of War
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Might want to gett off apple too lol they are the worst FYI
kyliethicc
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Buggy Loop
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Sure… at 30 fps?
majestix1988
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well the weakness of xbox right now is esport material killing or removing COD on playstation could really kills its fanbase and sony handles well regard on esport but their evo handling sucks
GamesDontSuck
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Exactly.
Sony probably already have a deal to release next cod on ps5 or whatever. Soon as that deal is finished cod is xbox only.
It's just business 101. MS paid near 70 billion to make all that nice it's xbox only. You don't support your competition like.
Badlucktroll
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Roxkis_ii
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ChuckeRearmed
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Nah. Halo fell due to two reasons - Xbox One and appearance of more shooters that gained popularity (mainly COD). COD had a huge popularity bump at one point.
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Gavon West
Spread's Cheeks for Intrusive Ads
Dude. The deal is going through. Their 99% sure it will. They wouldn't have announced it publicly. Chill...
Balducci30
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I think he might actually keep cod on PlayStation - it’s clear it’s not Sony Microsoft is competing with here
SLB1904
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kylie is greg miller confirmed
They are required to publicly announce it.
kyliethicc
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Banjo64
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Interested in why, and how that looks.
I have an iPhone but I think Apple are as insidious as Google. 2 sides of the same coin. Have you seen the logistic data Apple can harvest? Are Microsoft really worse than those 2?
I love the idea of really minimising my set up, but I can’t cut out any of the console manufacturers.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Exactly what I was thinking. Sony should just allow it tbh. Is it really that much different from EA’s sub service if they only release Ms owned properties on gamepass?
HundredThousandTrillion
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Surgical with the words.
Notice Sony’s statement says nothing beyond expecting Microsoft to honor existing agreements. That combined with Spencer’s carefully phrased statement should leave no doubt that new content will not see the light of day on a PlayStation.
Right now it’s all about avoiding scrutiny by regulators. No one with half a brain thinks this is a monopoly but Microsoft wants to avoid any and all hearings.
Notice Sony’s statement says nothing beyond expecting Microsoft to honor existing agreements. That combined with Spencer’s carefully phrased statement should leave no doubt that new content will not see the light of day on a PlayStation.
Right now it’s all about avoiding scrutiny by regulators. No one with half a brain thinks this is a monopoly but Microsoft wants to avoid any and all hearings.
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What does that have to do with removing a user base of over 100 million at a time when none of your console exclusives breaking the 10 - 15 million mark ? They would be fools to let Call Of Duty drop from being the best selling game to selling half of what it used to sell .
Hitchyhero
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He can't flat out say anything yet or he'd and Microsoft would have some hefty legs issues. The deal isn't complete yet.
But yes.... I read it the same way as you.
Represent.
Represent(ative) of bad opinions
Honestly they’d make twice as much money keeping it on PlayStation than just on Xbox. If it’s about money then it makes sense. Whether that be via game pass or 70$ premium…That’s the real question
Hawking Radiation
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Only realistic way I can see Sony 'evening' the playing field here is if they heavily invest in their existing studios to expand them 2 fold so they're able to work on multiple AAA's simultaneously, while bringing out their own version of GamePass with a few remakes and new IP's thrown in there.
All Jim has is his lunch money from the 3rd grade while Satya and Phil are rolling up to publishers with truckloads of cash. You simply can't compete with that.
All Jim has is his lunch money from the 3rd grade while Satya and Phil are rolling up to publishers with truckloads of cash. You simply can't compete with that.
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kyliethicc
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Would PlayStation users need to use Xbox accounts and earn achievements or use PSN account and earn trophies?
Would PlayStation users be able to subscribe through PSN and would Sony get a cut of said fee?
Would Microsoft publish all of their 1st party games onto the PlayStation Store for individual purchases like EA does? (And give Sony a 30% cut.)
Would it just be a streaming app or will the games run natively?
Will it include Xbox 360 and Xbox games or just modern Xbox One/Series games?
Will the games be playable with Xbox controllers?
Etc.
Its quite complicated and I doubt Sony & Microsoft would agree.
ethomaz
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More Sony stay away from MS better for us gamers.
the only way playstation would see these games would be if they eat their pride and good part games sales and let gamepass be on playstation. But my personal opinion is that Ms had decided to bring gamepass to PlayStation when had spent 7b for Bethesda ..... after 70b? .. I'm not so sure anymore they are interested in partnership anymore....also Ms are smelling fear in Sony and this certainly does not help the latter....during a bargaining
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Null Persp
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Yeah it's clearly a PR statement now that this deal is under scrutiny, it's the same thing he said with Bethesda.
Desire is the keyword, and technically he is right unless Sony agrees to allow gamepass.
Desire is the keyword, and technically he is right unless Sony agrees to allow gamepass.
Roman Empire
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Wait a second. There is a guy called Sanepar here hahaha. What a small world we live in.
skit_data
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They won’t remove the user base though. But they’ll be damn sure to let people who buys the new consoles that there’s only one place to play the next gen CoD and that’s via Xbox’s ecosystem. That’s why they doing it now, near the launch of the consoles before the split is too big in PS favor. I have no illusions that Xbox will be the place to play CoD this gen and I think it’s best for us fellow PS fans to simply accept this at this point.
Edit: I think this had been the plan for quite a while, to ”strike” at the time of the consoles launching.
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yurinka
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" I confirmed our intent to honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard AND our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation".
Notice the 'and' in the sentence, he's comitting to two separate things:
-'To honor all existing agreements upon acquisition of Activision Blizzard' (which may or may not be CoD related, notice he mentions AB instead of CoD here)
-'Our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation' (their intention, which nothing say it's linked or limited to the agreements)
So:
-He keeps CoD on PS because he wants to do so
-He honors previous AB agreements (related to CoD or not, who knows) because he wants to do so
-Matches their previous quotes of that they plan to keep supporting the AB communities outside MS platforms and that the deal wasn't about removing games from other platforms
As they said, they kept supporting the Bethesda communities on the other platforms. For the IPs that were in PS before the acquisition they kept adding the updates and dlcs there, plus released Quake Remastered. Same happened with Minecraft and Minecraft Dungeons.
For the IPs that were available on PS before the MS acquisition, everything released or announced has been multiplatform. Starfield is a new IP. The Elder Scrolls 6 being exclusive wasn't a clear statement, could have been an assumption of the GC interviewer.
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ManaByte
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He's committing to honoring the marketing deal Sony has with Activision until it expires in 2023, and he desires to keep Warzone running on the PlayStation. That's it.
MatrixReloaded101
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People are not seeing the bigger picture here ….
MS is devaluing 3rd party on PlayStation because they will offer these games day one at a much lower price. That’s the chess move that Phil is playing.
For example, Why would someone pay $60-$70 for Call of Duty on PlayStation instead of getting it in game pass on Xbox or PC for a much lower entry price.
The above is the concern that I think people are really downplaying because I can see a lot of casuals jumping ship to play games like call of duty and the other exclusives titles in game pass instead of paying the $70 for PS5 games. This is the real issue Sony has to address before it’s too late.
I don’t think any of these acquisitions will start to reap benefits for MS until like 2024 so Sony still has time to firgure this out.
MS is devaluing 3rd party on PlayStation because they will offer these games day one at a much lower price. That’s the chess move that Phil is playing.
For example, Why would someone pay $60-$70 for Call of Duty on PlayStation instead of getting it in game pass on Xbox or PC for a much lower entry price.
The above is the concern that I think people are really downplaying because I can see a lot of casuals jumping ship to play games like call of duty and the other exclusives titles in game pass instead of paying the $70 for PS5 games. This is the real issue Sony has to address before it’s too late.
I don’t think any of these acquisitions will start to reap benefits for MS until like 2024 so Sony still has time to firgure this out.
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Gavon West
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Oh, really? Wonder why this deal was being negotiated with a public company and NO WORD ever came from that until a couple of days ago? Like, no one knew Jack shit!
Lol that's not a reason it won't happen.
That's like saying: this deal between hungry dude and McDonald's will never happen!
Hungry dude will want 10 cheeseburgers for $0. McDonald's will want $100 for 0 cheeseburgers.
It's an intractable situation!
There's such a thing as negotiation.
Think about that it was because Call Of Duty was more assessable & playable on more consoles.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Yea, the devil is in the details. MS holds all the leverage and COD is such a massive money maker that Sony might have to get creative here.
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