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[bushwookie]

There's no need to wait.

Your cope is telling you there is. Everyone else has heard it directly from Brads mouth and understands already, this is the way.

Sure, whatever you say. Just don't go getting banned before the acquisition is finalized.

If there's no need to wait, then there's no need to worry about being here later then. Just more future laughs from you right? What's so bad about that?

 

[Swift_Star]

Pretty funny that understanding official messaging can be interpreted as fanboyism but not your posts using them to make your own interpretations.

This guy thinks new IPs will be multiplat.

There’s no way to know if they will or will not be.

 

[Spukc]

nice so diablo 4 coming to switch

 

[Yoboman]

Pretty funny that understanding official messaging can be interpreted as fanboyism but not your posts using them to make your own interpretations.

This guy thinks new IPs will be multiplat.

Activision Blizzard dont really bother with new IP these days

 

[Bernkastel]

Activision Blizzard dont really bother with new IP these days

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/blizzard-entertainemnt-next-new-ip-confirmed.1628604/

 

[bushwookie]

Right......Microsoft is bringing out President Brad Smith for console warrior purposes. Brilliant. /s

No need to be salty simply because you're incapable of understanding the context. You'd be wise to relegate your talents to meme posting. It appears suiting.

 

[DJ12]

Hint: investors don't care. The small percentage changes are basically either random or big hedgefunds doing some TA.

Not true, xbox fans told me a couple of weeks ago, Sony's stock price falling was a sign of their impending death, even though the enitre market was down.

 

[Topher]

No need to be salty simply because you're incapable of understanding the context. You'd be wise to relegate your talents to meme posting. It appears suiting.

Salty is the guy trying to come up with elaborate theories to twist the words being said over and over again by Microsoft executives.

 

[Yoboman]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/blizzard-entertainemnt-next-new-ip-confirmed.1628604/

Thats cool, about time for Blizzard

 

[Hendrick's]

Sony fanboys seem really interested in what Microsoft is doing these days.

They can't handle exclusives dying. It's all they have.

 

[RoadHazard]

All he's saying is what they already have been saying: that current games won't be pulled from any platform they're already on. He never explicitly talks about future titles.

 

[AV]

All he's saying is what they already have been saying: that current games won't be pulled from any platform they're already on. He never explicitly talks about future titles.

Not in the video clip in the OP, but this blog does explicitly says so.

Adapting ahead of regulation: a principled approach to app stores - Microsoft On the Issues

Today we’re announcing a new set of Open App Store Principles that will apply to the Microsoft Store on Windows and to the next-generation marketplaces we will build for games, in part to address Microsoft’s growing role and responsibility as we seek regulatory approval for our acquisition of...

blogs.microsoft.com

To be clear, Microsoft will continue to make Call of Duty and other popular Activision Blizzard titles available on PlayStation through the term of any existing agreement with Activision. And we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love.

COD is simply too huge. The reason it's too huge is because it's not only an Xbox game.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/blizzard-entertainemnt-next-new-ip-confirmed.1628604/

'home to a brand-new survival game for PC and console'

If it's good I'll check it out on my PS5/PC then.

 

[PharaoTutAnchAmun]

I get it - but it is what it is.

Consolidation will continue to happen and each company will ultimately choose to do what they wish to do with their newly acquired game companies / IP in their own best interests.

What MS (or Sony, or Nintendo... ) say today may/can/will eventually change at some point based on market conditions and impact to their bottom line.

Taking something said by an executive at face value today day will change in the future. That's why everything they say is so vague - because nothing is ever written in stone and subject to change at a moment's notice.

Companies have to adapt in near real-time nowadays and often say things in the public forum to calm and allay fears in order to complete the task at hand. Read what you will into these comments - but ultimately, I'm willing to bet there are giant asterisks next to each comment made.

Right now it appears that CoD will be targeted multi-platform - but at what cost to the end-user? EVERYTHING that MS is doing currently is targeted towards a single purpose... to grow their platform.

And theyr platform will be as much platforms as possible, the Xbox is NOT theyr main platform anymore. GamePass is.

 

[RoadHazard]

Not in the video clip in the OP, but this blog does explicitly says so.

Adapting ahead of regulation: a principled approach to app stores - Microsoft On the Issues

Today we’re announcing a new set of Open App Store Principles that will apply to the Microsoft Store on Windows and to the next-generation marketplaces we will build for games, in part to address Microsoft’s growing role and responsibility as we seek regulatory approval for our acquisition of...

blogs.microsoft.com

You could interpret that as they will keep current games on PlayStation past the current agreements to do so. It doesn't necessarily include future titles.

Or if it does, it might be through Xcloud streaming or via Game Pass, given that Sony allows it, which they're probably not keen on. So MS could then say "we tried".

I just don't think these statements are clear enough to say anything for sure.

 

[Bernkastel]

'home to a brand-new survival game for PC and console'

If it's good I'll check it out on my PS5/PC then.

 

[AV]

You could interpret that as they will keep current games on PlayStation past the current agreements to do so. It doesn't necessarily include future titles.

I mean, if that's how you wanna read that, fair enough, but it's pretty obviously not the case. They have no need to point out that "we will not suddenly stop the sale of old games on Playstation when agreements end". There would be zero point in doing that and zero point in telling people they won't do that. It would be like them demanding the removal of Skyrim, DOOM and Minecraft from PSN, it's just not gonna happen.

 

[RoadHazard]

I mean, if that's how you wanna read that, fair enough, but it's pretty obviously not the case. They have no need to point out that "we will not suddenly stop the sale of old games on Playstation when agreements end". There would be zero point in doing that and zero point in telling people they won't do that. It would be like them demanding the removal of Skyrim, DOOM and Minecraft from PSN, it's just not gonna happen.

I'm not as convinced, but we'll see.

 

[Plantoid]

You could interpret that as they will keep current games on PlayStation past the current agreements to do so. It doesn't necessarily include future titles.

Exactly, people don't know how to read PR bullshit

"To be clear, Microsoft will continue to make Call of Duty and other popular Activision Blizzard titles available on PlayStation through the term of any existing agreement with Activision. And we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love.

Last bolded part is clear, there's no existing agreement for a game that isn't even in development yet. So you can't go "beyond the existing agreement" if there's no agreement

If they keep diablo 4, overwatch 2 and cod warzone on ps they won't be lying, they had an agreement for those games that ended and they "extended it"

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

Exactly, people don't know how to read PR bullshit

Last bolded part is clear, there's no existing agreement for a game that isn't even in development yet. So you can't go "beyond the existing agreement" if there's no agreement

So 4 years down the line, the next ActiBlizz title worth anything to shout about could be on PC and Xbox only? Even if that were true and they're not going multiplat, we'll be on the cusp on the next gen by then, what would be the point.

 

[DJ12]

They can't handle exclusives dying. It's all they have.

All he's saying is what they already have been saying: that current games won't be pulled from any platform they're already on. He never explicitly talks about future titles.

Exactly, people don't know how to read PR bullshit

"To be clear, Microsoft will continue to make Call of Duty and other popular Activision Blizzard titles available on PlayStation through the term of any existing agreement with Activision. And we have committed to Sony that we will also make them available on PlayStation beyond the existing agreement and into the future so that Sony fans can continue to enjoy the games they love.

Last bolded part is clear, there's no existing agreement for a game that isn't even in development yet. So you can't go "beyond the existing agreement" if there's no agreement

If they keep diablo 4, overwatch 2 and cod warzone on ps they won't be lying, they had an agreement for those games that ended and they "extended it"

 

[Topher]

They can't handle exclusives dying. It's all they have.

 

[harry mason 1989]

Console warriors rolling in their graves right now.

There reaction on Twitter is so hilarious

 

[DavidGzz]

I feel like if it's up to Brad Smith, all games from Bethesda etc will come to PS as well. Seems like short-term revenue gains are getting in the way of the Game Pass 100mil sub dream. Either that or they are sweating this deal getting blocked.

 

[Plantoid]

So 4 years down the line, the next ActiBlizz title worth anything to shout about could be on PC and Xbox only? Even if that were true and they're not going multiplat, we'll be on the cusp on the next gen by then, what would be the point.

Let's wait and see, i could be wrong but I don't trust PR statements, for me this is the same as Bungie saying their next new game will be multiplat, for me multiplat means PC + PS5 (in bungies case)

They're very clever in the words they choose

 

[Papacheeks]

I interpreted it as Known established titles from Acti/Bliz will continue to be Multiplatform, but new IP could be exclusive to gamepass.

 

[Bernkastel]

I feel like if it's up to Brad Smith, all games from Bethesda etc will come to PS as well. Seems like short-term revenue gains are getting in the way of the Game Pass 100mil sub dream. Either that or they are sweating this deal getting blocked.

People are now projecting themselves into Microsoft executives.

 

[DrAspirino]

Yes, but making as much money as possible does not involve all games going to playstation because if they take away the reasons to own an Xbox it would decrease gamepass subs (because people would just not bother with xbox if all there games were on PS5)

...and that's where I think the play will come: sure, you'll be able to play CoD on PS5 (or even Switch), but only through GamePass.

Right now, Microsoft has "the upper hand" (or whatever you want to call it) regarding CoD: they can say to the FTC and regulators that they want to put their games on other competing consoles, but it's the other companies (namely Sony and/or Nintendo) that refuse to allow GamePass on their devices.

It will be Minecraft all over again, just like as of right now, you need a Microsoft account to play it, whether it is on Xbox, PlayStation, Switch or whatever.

Only time will tell if that becomes the case (which I'm betting on).

 

[yewles1]

Wait, it.....isn't? What was the last CoD to release natively on a Nintendo system?

Wasn't it Black Ops 2 on Wii U?

Edit: NVM, it was Ghosts..

 

[Unknown?]

This needed another thread? Wow, your on a roll of spreading as much disinformation as possible, eh giga.

Just like a politician, misinformation just means information you don't like regardless of truth or not.

 

[Vognerful]

I know few guys here are riding The cope meme train, that Is good for you.

it is weird however that the sentiment that these executives are not honest about future of CoD is actually shared between both Xbox and playstation camps (Contrary to some people’s wishes here). Even the PS5 subreddit are still questioning Microsoft about these statements and saying that they will change their tone once the deal is done.

 

[Haggard]

Translation "We like money and our shareholders like money, and these manchilds demanding exclusivity for the sake of their pathetic egos can go f*** themselves"

 

[Thirty7ven]

I know few guys here are riding The cope meme train, that Is good for you.

it is weird however that the sentiment that these executives are not honest about future of CoD is actually shared between both Xbox and playstation camps (Contrary to some people’s wishes here). Even the PS5 subreddit are still questioning Microsoft about these statements and saying that they will change their tone once the deal is done.

Even Xbox fanboys know MS is straight up evil, and the only thing they ever had going for them was endless money.

 

[Craig of War]

There’s no way to know if they will or will not be.

Actually there is Starfield & Redfall are Xbox console exclusive so expect any new Activision title to be Xbox Console exclusive that are not COD

 

[Vognerful]

Even Xbox fanboys know MS is straight up evil, and the only thing they ever had going for them was endless money.

Still they decided to maintain the mask And play nice. In fact, I am lost here because one group tells me that they MS always lies while the other tells me we are not reading properly ( I mean yurinka is far from being called an xbox guy)

Nw I ask you again the same question i have asked several times: after this news about activision, what is the purpose of the talk about next acquisitions for Sony or even Microsoft? Do we see Sony keeping capcom or square multi platform publishers if the acquired them?

 

[Bogeyman]

Omg they're buying up Nintendo too!

 

[Holammer]

Nah this is elaborate double speak. When he says they would like to bring it to Nintendo devices he means they are gonna do a re pressing of BLOPS 2 for Wii U.

BO2 was fucking great.
They could do a new edition of that on Switch and include new skins/weapons from the mobile game.

... people on PS/XBOX and PC would beg for it as well. I would.

 

[HoofHearted]

And theyr platform will be as much platforms as possible, the Xbox is NOT theyr main platform anymore...

Somewhat agreed … their platform is XBox GaaS. Though they just renamed it for PC - but it’s still the same core GaaS.

They’ve only been saying this since the XS launch. Their GaaS platform will be made available to as many hardware platforms as possible.

However - just like every other XaaS offering out there - there will be requirements put into place as to how MS games will be made available on other platforms. How those end up being implemented is yet to be seen. This is a very long play by MS to establish and grow their GaaS library. If you listen to the video on the original OP… it’s clear they’re currently focused on addressing regulatory concerns. They mention that these games will ”continue“ (or would like) to be made available on various consoles. How this plays out once current contracts are up for renewal is yet to be seen.

Whether or not Sony / Nintendo elect to accept MS’ options to enable and provide the GaaS on their respective platforms will be up to them.

 

[Thirty7ven]

Still they decided to maintain the mask And play nice. In fact, I am lost here because one group tells me that they MS always lies while the other tells me we are not reading properly ( I mean yurinka is far from being called an xbox guy)

Nw I ask you again the same question i have asked several times: after this news about activision, what is the purpose of the talk about next acquisitions for Sony or even Microsoft? Do we see Sony keeping capcom or square multi platform publishers if the acquired them?

Fuck do I know, Sony got a bunch of clowns making decisions for Playstation and after reading into this whole FTC/AppStore/MS and Epic vs Apple and Google black ops shadow war going on, my bet is that consolidation is happening right now because distribution platforms are about to be blown wide open and the big boys don't want more than 4 or five players at the illuminati table.

Forget console wars, that shit is over, and for all the talk of "MS doesn't care about consoles anymore" from xbox fanboys there was nothing else they wanted to see more than Xbox "winning" the console war.

It's over, it has already happened we just haven't caught up with it yet.

 

[Elios83]

Translation "We like money and our shareholders like money, and these manchilds demanding exclusivity for the sake of their pathetic egos can go f*** themselves"

It's not about the money, they have tons to spend/waste if they want to and if they cared even Bethesda games would still be multiplatform.

It's about regulators. Their legal team has clearly determined that this is the only way the deal can be approved without issues and they're acting on their own before they're forced to prove they're acting in good faith respecting fair competition.

The real question is if this will be enough or if regulators are going to ask even more like the total independence of Activision as a subsidiary.

And btw it's embarrassing how some people still want to believe that they're trying to fool regulators and this is the same as Bethesda.

 

[Vognerful]

Fuck do I know, Sony got a bunch of clowns making decisions for Playstation and after reading into this whole FTC/AppStore/MS and Epic vs Apple and Google black ops shadow war going on, my bet is that consolidation is happening right now because distribution platforms are about to be blown wide open and the big boys don't want more than 4 or five players at the illuminati table.

Forget console wars, that shit is over, and for all the talk of "MS doesn't care about consoles anymore" from xbox fanboys there was nothing else they wanted to see more than Xbox "winning" the console war.

It's over, it has already happened we just haven't caught up with it yet.

But you are ignoring my question; you are part of the discussion going on in the sony thread. So what do you seek from Sony acquiring publishers like square or capcom? Securing exclusives? Profits? Eliminating the chance from being closed out of other companies like apple and co?

 

[Vognerful]

Fuck do I know, Sony got a bunch of clowns making decisions for Playstation and after reading into this whole FTC/AppStore/MS and Epic vs Apple and Google black ops shadow war going on, my bet is that consolidation is happening right now because distribution platforms are about to be blown wide open and the big boys don't want more than 4 or five players at the illuminati table.

Forget console wars, that shit is over, and for all the talk of "MS doesn't care about consoles anymore" from xbox fanboys there was nothing else they wanted to see more than Xbox "winning" the console war.

It's over, it has already happened we just haven't caught up with it yet.

I know your comment about xbox fanboys was not related to my question, but I just remembered that it is very convenient that those who were always vocally calling Phil out on that “competition” and “consoles sold” can now hide in the back and pretend along in shitting on other people; when it turned out he was right all along.

 

[Thirty7ven]

I know your comment about xbox fanboys was not related to my question, but I just remembered that it is very convenient that those who were always vocally calling Phil out on that “competition” and “consoles sold” can now hide in the back and pretend along in shitting on other people; when it turned out he was right all along.

It's going both ways, those of us who said it was just talk are now surprised it wasn't just talk, and those who were using it as ammo in console sales wars are now going "wait a minute, wtf, why u do this blood I thought we were homies, I told my neighboors Cod was exclusive, that finally Playstation got what was coming to them, my man nooooooooo"

 

[yurinka]

Still they decided to maintain the mask And play nice. In fact, I am lost here because one group tells me that they MS always lies while the other tells me we are not reading properly ( I mean yurinka is far from being called an xbox guy)

Nw I ask you again the same question i have asked several times: after this news about activision, what is the purpose of the talk about next acquisitions for Sony or even Microsoft? Do we see Sony keeping capcom or square multi platform publishers if the acquired them?

MS said when acquiring Mojang, Zenimax and Activision Blizzard King that their plans weren't to keep their communities/franchises/games out of the other platforms. In the case of Bethesda their CFO said that their plan for them wasn't to make their games exclusive to Xbox but instead to release them 'first or better' on their platforms and secure content for Gamepass. When Sony acquired Bungie they said Destiny 2 and all future Bungie games will be multiplatform including rival consoles.

Sony also said that they'll put Bungie inside SIE but as a multiplatorm publisher independent from PS Studios. Which is a brand new structure that opens the door to acquire and include more publishers for SIE and to put them there as multiplatform publishers independent from PS Studios, which would make easier and faster to integrate companies who even have businesses not related to Sony's interests. As would be in the case of arcades, pachinkos or pachislos, manga, gyms or resorts. Stuff that companies like Capcom, Square Enix, Sega or Konami have.

So these kind of companies would be more open to be acquired if Sony allows them to continue releasing future games multiplatform and also having these other businesses. While with the previous way pretty likely they would have been integrated within PS Studios to make exclusive games and pretty likely they would have needed to shut down or sell their non-gaming businesses.

 

[Vognerful]

MS said when acquiring Mojang, Zenimax and Activision Blizzard King that their plans weren't to keep their communities/franchises/games out of the other platforms. In the case of Bethesda their CFO said that their plan for them wasn't to make their games exclusive to Xbox but instead to release them 'first or better' on their platforms and secure content for Gamepass. When Sony acquired Bungie they said Destiny 2 and all future Bungie games will be multiplatform including rival consoles.

Sony also said that they'll put Bungie inside SIE but as a multiplatorm publisher independent from PS Studios. Which is a brand new structure that opens the door to acquire and include more publishers for SIE and to put them there as multiplatform publishers independent from PS Studios, which would make easier and faster to integrate companies who even have businesses not related to Sony's interests. As would be in the case of arcades, pachinkos or pachislos, manga, gyms or resorts. Stuff that companies like Capcom, Square Enix, Sega or Konami have.

So these kind of companies would be more open to be acquired if Sony allows them to continue releasing future games multiplatform and also having these other businesses. While with the previous way pretty likely they would have been integrated within PS Studios to make exclusive games and pretty likely they would have needed to shut down or sell their non-gaming businesses.

Do you see Sony applying the same deal to capcom and square? Would Sony even answer to FTC if they decided not to? Would Japanese government care if it went either way?

Edit:

your response also did not explain the “why” part.

 

[R3claimer117]

Only Microsoft can manage to muck up the waters everytime they speak because they’re so afraid of backlash. They have to do this constantly. Sony makes a purchase and you maybe question the logic but you clearly understood from the announcement what that meant. Would have been more honest to just say all of our big live service games will continue where they are now and we’ll be bring them to additional places like switch through streaming or whatever. But to keep creating confusion constantly with your messaging is ridiculous.

 

[Thirty7ven]

But you are ignoring my question; you are part of the discussion going on in the sony thread. So what do you seek from Sony acquiring publishers like square or capcom? Securing exclusives? Profits? Eliminating the chance from being closed out of other companies like apple and co?

I want Playstation to secure its future, for real, because I grew up with it. I want to see them buy SE, Capcom, hell Sega even, if that means guaranteeing I get to play those game son Playstation hardware, because that's my thing. Said it straight away that they can do with them the same as they are doing with Bungie, as long as nobody forces me to buy a PC or an Xbox. Point blank.

 

[Swift_Star]

Actually there is Starfield & Redfall are Xbox console exclusive so expect any new Activision title to be Xbox Console exclusive that are not COD

We've been through this: it's not the same thing.

 

[Sosokrates]

...and that's where I think the play will come: sure, you'll be able to play CoD on PS5 (or even Switch), but only through GamePass.

Right now, Microsoft has "the upper hand" (or whatever you want to call it) regarding CoD: they can say to the FTC and regulators that they want to put their games on other competing consoles, but it's the other companies (namely Sony and/or Nintendo) that refuse to allow GamePass on their devices.

It will be Minecraft all over again, just like as of right now, you need a Microsoft account to play it, whether it is on Xbox, PlayStation, Switch or whatever.

Only time will tell if that becomes the case (which I'm betting on).

Sony aint letting gamepass on PlayStation, it takes away there business, it not only will decrease number of sony subs, but it would also decrease playstation game sales. It is a huge threat to the PlayStation business.

 

[Craig of War]

We've been through this: it's not the same thing.

Yes it is so you expect new Crash or Spyro to come to playstation lol