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[SlimySnake]

Who would have thought Aloy would give R&C a run for it's money in regard to "best fur in gaming"....

Oh god. We don’t need another #FurGate

 

[bender]

I am completely confused by your argument.

 

[Vick]

Yea they are essentially faking "offscreen" reflection where SSR would fail. It is clever.

RDR2 did it before.

 

[Sosokrates]

This one is gameplay btw. Credit to imapioneer from the other side.

Score one for rim lighting. This level of detail and character lighting during gameplay is a step up not only from the first game but other games as well.

How can you tell its gameplay?

 

[Represent.]

Someone tried to tell me Dying Light 2 on PC looks better

Sony first Party gonna be deadly this gen. man, they are good.

 

[Oddvintagechap]

This one is gameplay btw. Credit to imapioneer from the other side.

Score one for rim lighting. This level of detail and character lighting during gameplay is a step up not only from the first game but other games as well.

This game is woke. Its trying to protect the incels’ feelings. Why are her eyebrows done. It should be looking like a unibrow. Plus I should be seeing a little bit of mustache.

 

[Strider Highwind]

Oh this is going to fly on my C1

 

[Kerotan]

I'm going for the ps4 version. Looks closer to the original plus I get double trophy when I transfer my ps4 platinum save to the ps5. The smart choice.

Lmao anyway ps5 performance mode for me.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

This game is woke. Its trying to protect the incels’ feelings. Why are her eyebrows done. It should be looking like a unibrow. Plus I should be seeing a little bit of mustache.

Got a funny feeling she uses that thing on her right ear to shave.

This is all probably a side quest in the game.

 

[Represent.]

Oh this is going to fly on my C1

Same. Just bought one recently and I am READY. Honestly if you have a high end TV its the equivalent of a significant hardware upgrade.

 

[Elog]

Oh this is going to fly on my C1

I am really looking forward to see everything with HDR. HZD was one of the first games with a perfect HDR implementation - makes such a huge difference.

 

[Mahavastu]

I think they might not have enough headroom for a 40 fps mode at native 4k like ratchet did.

They could probably reduce the resolution to 1800p to get there but at that point the reduction in overall pixel clarity would take a hit.

In the end they have dynamic resolution. I guess they could just target 4k / 40fps and would most of the time stay "close enough" to it. Even if they need to go lower then 1800p in stressfull situations it is something I could live with

 

[AGRacing]

PS4 Pro gets best jawline.

PS5 gets "should have used sunscreen" award.

 

[azertydu91]

Oh god. We don’t need another #FurGate

We'll need our self proclaimed fur expert for that but don't worry he always finds a way to shit on sony games.

 

[nowhat]

Who would have thought Aloy would give R&C a run for it's money in regard to "best fur in gaming"....

Ehh, there's still a while to the PC mods.

 

[arvfab]

We'll need our self proclaimed fur expert for that but don't worry he always finds a way to shit on sony games.

I've already seen him doing it, on time like a swiss watch.

Ehh, there's still a while to the PC mods.

By the time it's released on PC, Aloy will look like this

 

[LostDonkey]

I didn't like the first game, but man this looks visually stunning, even on PS4.

 

[nikos]

This game will look better in screenshots.

30 FPS motion is difficult to look at. Performance mode is too soft.

 

[Forsete]

Really beautiful game.

Love the density of everything. So much detail. Amazing stuff.

 

[Tripolygon]

Is it the same on performance mode? Are you there any hits to that mode aside from resolution?

There are some differences due to the reduced resolution.

 

[Tripolygon]

How can you tell its gameplay?

The person that took it said so.

 

[Sosokrates]

The person that took it said so.

Oh. Not exactly full proof. Some people count photo mode as gameplay.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Very interesting stuff, but the conclusion pretty much states what I have been saying all along. This is basically a PC Low vs High change.

Yup like cyberpunk on a high end PC vs OG Xbox one

 

[YeulEmeralda]

A crossgen game embarrassing the rest of the industry.

Sony sensei I kneel!

 

[ethomaz]

You're wrong. 60fps looks much better than 30, other things being equal.

And it's not just a matter of adaptation, otherwise we'd still have 15fps games.

If the graphics settings are the same the looks are equal no matter the framerate.

Response time is different that has nothing to do with how the game looks.

 

[ethomaz]

PS4 Pro gets best jawline.

PS5 gets "should have used sunscreen" award.

I have the impression these comparison are using the blury PS5 Performance mode lol
That is why people got fooled early.

 

[Tripolygon]

Oh. Not exactly full proof. Some people count photo mode as gameplay.

Ok? Last I checked most photo modes just freezes the game state and give you more control of the camera so you can frame your shot how you want. There is nothing unbelievable in that screen judging by what we’ve seen so far.

 

[GHG]

Whatever graphical showcase in there il choose having this


Over anything there in DL2 anyday of the week

I genuinely feel sorry for the people nitpicking this game.

What a joyless existence.

 

[ethomaz]

Oh god. We don’t need another #FurGate

Well you can see it here even on PS5 Perf mode.

 

[Elios83]

Wait...so you do not include geometrical complexity in 'rendering quality' despite being a core bottle-neck and one of the things everyone and their mother is trying to push? That was one core aspect that made the UE5 demo look so good. It is one of the core aspects that make HFW on the PS5 look so good. And it is one of the core differences between the PS4 version of HFW and the PS5 version.

I am completely confused by your argument. Geometrical complexity is way more important than rendering resolution to increase visual quality once you hit 1440p or so.

You're confused because there is no argument.
Forbidden West is a gen ahead compared to Zero Dawn in water rendering technology, micro-geometry usage in vegetation and environmental details, a gen ahead in animations as well and there is no way for Zero Dawn on PC to look as good regardless of the settings.

 

[rofif]

My logic was based on the fact that the additions to the PC version would be something new they would add to the PS5. Right now the PS5 can only render FW @ 4k/30FPS. If we disregard the different biomes and locations (which are subjective anyway), then the PC will offer a better graphical experience with the same clarity of 4k but at 60FPS or higher. There is no denying that FW is an iteration above the previous game and not a generational leap like people assumed.

You can get better IMAGE QUALITY on pc for sure. 4k, dlss, 8k, whatever is possible. You can even argue Zero Dawn got higher image quality.
But until this comes to pc, the closes thing is Death Stranding on pc I guess

 

[Sosokrates]

Ok? Last I checked most photo modes just freezes the game state and give you more control of the camera so you can frame your shot how you want. There is nothing unbelievable in that screen judging by what we’ve seen so far.

I just think its not very accurate to be claiming these shots are "gameplay".
Most photomodes improve the visuals.

 

[rofif]

Well you can see it here even on PS5 Perf mode.

Now that I think about it, nude peach fuzz mods on pc will be really fun

 

[Mr Moose]

I just think its not very accurate to be claiming these shots are "gameplay".
Most photomodes improve the visuals.

I'll take a pic during gameplay of her furry face for you on Friday.
Or sooner if Amazon ships early

 

[SlimySnake]

What a joyless existence.

 

[Sosokrates]

I'll take a pic during gameplay of her furry face for you on Friday.
Or sooner if Amazon ships early

That would be good.
And people should not be offended by me saying this.
On the contrary me thinking it could be photomode is a testament to how good the visuals are if it is gameplay.

 

[Coolwhhip]

 

[GHG]

 

[azertydu91]

I've already seen him doing it, on time like a swiss watch.

Why am I not surprised at all... I guess he'll be schooled again ang will cry somewhere else.

 

[Tripolygon]

I just think its not very accurate to be claiming these shots are "gameplay".
Most photomodes improve the visuals.

Cool. Doesn’t bother me, the same graphics engine and assets in the game is used to render the frozen frame. Now something like GT photo mode which render the final image over multiple frames then that’s debatable as it is taking a longer time to render out the frame. In either case those are the same assets used in the game in one capacity or another. It’s not a CG pre-render. To me even real-time cutscenes are part of the gameplay even though you don’t have control of the characters.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

You know women have hair on their face right? Well except if they are 12 but let's not go there.

Just a reminder that you should be careful when wishing for realism. I bet Aloy doesn't use deodorant either

 

[GymWolf]

Now that I think about it, nude peach fuzz mods on pc will be really fun

Ok why my tera patrick special edition fleshlight didn't come with that sexy wrap like yours did?

 

[rofif]

You know women have hair on their face right? Well except if they are 12 but let's not go there.

Just a reminder that you should be careful when wishing for realism. I bet Aloy doesn't use deodorant either

She is a tech neanderthal after all

 

[elliot5]

where are the fat-aloy-with-a-beard edits? trolls are slow today cmon

 

[GymWolf]

Yeah no offense for ratchet fans, but looking at some high quality footage and pics, H2 natural outdoors looking environment (your beach, forest, desert etc.) piss all over outdoors location in the insomniac game, far more details everywhere, richer textures, ground details, snow\sand interaction, better vistas etc. the outdoors natural enviroments in ratchet were far worse than the techy-scifi ones like the pirate cantine, the first area or the space city, i was kinda surprised the first time i reached the location where you eventually fly the dragon for example.

And seeing some footage from the inside of the cauldrons with all the machines at work i'm not even sure if ratchet has better indoors either (or neither, i always confuse when to use one or the other).

In my book guerrilla definitely surpassed insomniac on the graphic hierarchy between sony first studios, even more impressive if you consider that this is a filthy crossgen full fledged open world compared to a more stricted ps5 exclusive games.

Small example, you are never gonna find a rock formation as detailed as this one in ratchet

Spoiler

And this is a random ass rock formation in a huge open world game.

It's kinda pretty nuts.

 

[tommib]

Yeah no offense for ratchet fans, but looking at some high quality footage and pics, H2 natural outdoors looking environment (your beach, forest, desert etc.) piss all over outdoors location in the insomniac game, far more details everywhere, richer textures, better vistas etc. the outdoors natural enviroments in ratchet were far worse than the techy-scifi ones like the pirate cantine, the first area or the space city, i was kinda surprised the first time i reached the location where you eventually fly the dragon for example.

And seeing some footage from the inside of the cauldrons with all the machines at work i'm not even sure if ratchet has better indoors either (or neither, i always confuse when to use one or the other).

In my book guerrilla definitely surpassed insomniac on the graphic hierarchy between sony first studios, even more impressive if you consider that this is a filthy crossgen full fledged open world compared to a more stricted ps5 exclusive games.

 

[Mr Moose]

That would be good.
And people should not be offended by me saying this.
On the contrary me thinking it could be photomode is a testament to how good the visuals are if it is gameplay.

I can't remember with HZD, but some will use better AA (I think DriveClub does?) in photomode, I don't think this game will, it looks clean especially in the 4K mode.
There's no HUD on that screenshot but it might've just been cropped or turned off.

The hair looks nice in game, I'll be taking a lot of screenshots when I play.

 

[GymWolf]

I think odissey and valhalla have something similar but not sure if the quality is the same.

yep even odissey had this

But odissey doens't have a foam system like FW.

 

[Dr Bass]

Yeah no offense for ratchet fans, but looking at some high quality footage and pics, H2 natural outdoors looking environment (your beach, forest, desert etc.) piss all over outdoors location in the insomniac game, far more details everywhere, richer textures, better vistas etc. the outdoors natural enviroments in ratchet were far worse than the techy-scifi ones like the pirate cantine, the first area or the space city, i was kinda surprised the first time i reached the location where you eventually fly the dragon for example.

And seeing some footage from the inside of the cauldrons with all the machines at work i'm not even sure if ratchet has better indoors either (or neither, i always confuse when to use one or the other).

In my book guerrilla definitely surpassed insomniac on the graphic hierarchy between sony first studios, even more impressive if you consider that this is a filthy crossgen full fledged open world compared to a more stricted ps5 exclusive games.

Ratchet also used ray tracing in some very impressive ways, and it's a different kind of game and a different style of graphics.

I agree, you pointed out some of the weaker looking levels of Ratchet, but we will see. I don't know if HFW can pass as an animated movie, but again ... different style of presentation. Thankfully you don't "have to pick". I'll make sure to get my digital deluxe pre order loaded up very soon.

 

[Mr Moose]

I think odissey and valhalla have something similar but not sure if the quality is the same.

yep even odissey had this

But odissey doens't have a foam system like FW.

Didn't Black Flag have nice water? My memory is dog shit If I remember correctly, GTA V PS4 has decent looking sea.