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Horizon Forbidden West - Digital Foundry Tech Review - A PS5 Graphics Masterclass

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
I have a LG CX. But. wait, what? I mean, that has no sense and you can see, moving the slider, than 0 adds less sharpen than 10. Also, 0 has no input lag penalty, meanwhile any value adds a bit of added input lag.

Do you have a link explaining what you are saying?
Default value is 10 in all modes. Even expert isf. This made me go testing because I always had it to 0 too.
The effect 0-10 affects mostly resolutions BELOW 4k lol. If you run 1080p or 1800p. So should not do much on ps5 since it always outputs 4k, no matter what internal.

It's very faint but if you go below native res and look at some aliased corner geometry and then swithc 0-10, you will notice that on 0, you can see the aliasing more and on 10 it looks like very faint smaa is applied. So it is sharper on 0. So weird.

I ended up with 10 for now.
Edit: I have c1 and it's my testing on PC
 
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Aaron Olive

Member
thanks for heads up!
The game supports hgig?
Yes, LG C1 77" here, crystal and lush
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TonyK

Member
Default value is 10 in all modes. Even expert isf. This made me go testing because I always had it to 0 too.
The effect 0-10 affects mostly resolutions BELOW 4k lol. If you run 1080p or 1800p. So should not do much on ps5 since it always outputs 4k, no matter what internal.

It's very faint but if you go below native res and look at some aliased corner geometry and then swithc 0-10, you will notice that on 0, you can see the aliasing more and on 10 it looks like very faint smaa is applied. So it is sharper on 0. So weird.

I ended up with 10 for now.
Edit: I have c1 and it's my testing on PC
Don't you notice a slightly input lag added above sharpen 0? For me is very noticeable if I play some time at 10 and then I back to sharpen 0. Suddenly, game feels more responsive. It's specially noticeable at 30fps.
 

rofif

Can’t Git Gud
Don't you notice a slightly input lag added above sharpen 0? For me is very noticeable if I play some time at 10 and then I back to sharpen 0. Suddenly, game feels more responsive. It's specially noticeable at 30fps.
I can't notice any added lag. No tools to measure but I need to recheck if you say you can feel difference
 

Orpheum

Member
The game looks absolutely insane. holy shit. I just watched the video and i'm in awe.

Seriously considering playing this before elden ring
 
Game runs great, had to adjust some TV Settings on my XH9005 because it was generating some artifacts due to a weird configuration. Now its fine. Still, I will need to try out the performance mode as the 30FPS (resolution) mode is kinda bugging me.
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud
You sir are an idiot if you think my post was about whether I can afford $10. Do you really need someone to explain it to you? Because I can. There are too many people like you out there ready to sign off on companies who act shady like Sony is doing here.
I got the ps5 disc version because... that's the whole point to buy a disc version.
I want a physical archived copy of ps5 game with ps5 label on the box. Playable ps5 version.
It is not 10$ more. ps4 version was given free update after outcry. ps5 never changed.

If I wanted a ps4 verison, I would buy it on psn
 
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Sosokrates

Report me if I continue to console war
Well yeah. Its a new game. Not a port of an old game. They didn't take the time to add extra stuff. Only turned up a few settings. HFW ps5 looks a step above ps4 because they did the extra work, not just raised a few settings.
The only things that are added apart from "improved settimgs" is the moss and peach fuzz as far as I can tell, the other improvements are higher quality textures, effects and draw distance, which are the kind of improvements we see when turning up settings on PC
 

Aaron Olive

Member
Then why vincent advise for always keeping sharpness at zero??

Also high sharpness usually looks pretty ugly.
He’s a professional calibrator that strives for accuracy for movie content, but when it comes to gaming my personal preference is to have sharpness up to see every detail in the image, which is very helpful for shooters, and when gaming clarity is of upmost importance.
 
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GymWolf

Member
He’s a professional calibrator that strives for accuracy for movie content, but when it comes to gaming my personal preference is to have sharpness up to see every detail in the image, which is very helpful for shooters, and when gaming clarity is of upmost importance.
Yeah but 50?? At best i had 20-30 in my old 1080p oled because it was too blurry, but on a 4k screen, don't know man...
 
Looks incredible. Why they kept this a secret is beyond me.
Well it's great to keep some cool things very close to your chest and surprise the fans when they least expect it. Especially on a feature that's been requested heavily since the first game. Should keep people talking!!!
 
GG really took the water criticism of the first game personally because wow did they knock this out of the fucking park.

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And they went a step further under water.
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My biggest observation is how they improved Decima Engine's NUBIS subsystem. Its cloud rendering is unbelievable, especially the silver lining that's noticeable between the clouds at sundown!!! They're just showin' off at this point
 
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Anchovie123

Member
Watched some Twitch streams today, the low bitrate and bad encoders are really doing this game a disservice. Some streams make the game look like 720p wtf.
 

GymWolf

Member
WARNING !!! LG C1 owners there might be a HDMI HDR handshake issue with the PS5 which will washout contrast, to fix disable hdmi deep color and re-enable and re-enable HDR in PS5 settings. do not mess with RGB levels on tv or console.

HDR
HGIG

Black Level
Auto/Auto

Smooth gradation OFF, blurs image quality when on.
Do i have to to this thing while the game is running in the background or before\after?
 

Aaron Olive

Member
I mean... i posted some pics of tertiary characters from horizon2 that look as detailed as main character kratos or better so yeah, for now horizon looks better than what we saw in the ragnarock trailer, and noticeably so.

Not really worried about the locations, it's the characters that seems to be extremely similar to the first game, aloy looked much better than his ps4 version since the first showing of h2 (and they even improved her) while kratos looks almost the same, freya looks exactly the same.

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The dwarf with the octopus and angrboda were the best models in that trailer.
Im Confident there will be enhancements before release this fall, first party always show WIP lower than finalized target.
 

Aaron Olive

Member
I sincerely hope so.
it's literally happened to every release

LOU2 looked better than first showing
GOW looked better than first showing
Days gone looked better than first showing
GT7 looking better than first showing
R&C ARA looked better than first showing with RT
SM puddle gate:messenger_face_screaming:
HZFW Obviously:messenger_smiling_with_eyes:

Sony isn't Ubisoft when it comes to visuals!!!
 
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sojuwarrior

Member
Dont wanna watch any HFW related videos to avoid spoilers, just wondering if DF confirmed if the graphics mode maintains a stable 30fps???
this might be the first ps5 game I pick graphics over perf mode lol...
 
Dont wanna watch any HFW related videos to avoid spoilers, just wondering if DF confirmed if the graphics mode maintains a stable 30fps???
this might be the first ps5 game I pick graphics over perf mode lol...
Frame rate is very stable at 30fps with perfect frame pacing. You get a minor duplicate frame here and there, but that's not really a big deal.
 
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