I blasted this shit near the start of this thread just trying to get more context on the matter. Unlike you i try to get more info instead of mob rage.
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Gran Turismo 7’s microtransactions are live, and GT Sports’ $5 cars now cost $40
wipeout364
Member
If the online reviewers have any dignity they will retract their reviews and drop the score 2 points until Sony reviews their MTX policy. This is unacceptable in a full priced game. GT7 should have been FTP like Halo if this is the route they wanted to go. I have seen people say they are getting 80000 credits an hour that is an insane grind if there are many cars over 1 million credits.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
MTX solely for people who want to skip time are fine, but there’s always the high probability that the in-game economy has been altered to entice more people to go the MTX route. And even if it isn’t that way now, it can be altered later. We have seen it before, many times.
The only time I remember needing to really grind a lot for a GT car was the Pikes Peak can in GT2 but it’s been so long, I might be forgetting some.
I’ll hold off on buying until it’s abundantly clear that there are no shenanigans being pulled.
The only time I remember needing to really grind a lot for a GT car was the Pikes Peak can in GT2 but it’s been so long, I might be forgetting some.
I’ll hold off on buying until it’s abundantly clear that there are no shenanigans being pulled.
akaFullmetal
Member
Have to feed those mtx whales somehow..... Shitty move Sony!
supernova8
Banned
Hahaha oh fucking really. Well in that case Kaz Yamauchi can go suck a fat juicy dick. That said, I suspect it's not actually Kaz pushing for that stuff, more like the marketing folk over at SIE central. Kaz always seemed like a purist.
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Why? The ability to buy credit at absurd prices doesn't change the game at all from when reviews were done. You can still play the game the reviewers played by not spending a penny. This only changes the future. How often new cars are made, if they change things to be more grindy, and when the game will be added to a subscription service.
This GaaS crap is a plague nonetheless though and I see why it's happening slowly as people race to the bottom.
Not suprised to see those most outraged here though are the same who happily defend this GaaS crap in other games. $30 for 4250 Ancient coins in Sea of Thieves, $20 for a dance/taunt in Gears 5 etc.
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This second hand dealership and milage exchange have been in GT4 and GT Sport already. It's just a reason to look in the second hand dealership or milage exchange for rare cars. Nothing to do with microtransactions. Microtransactions hadn't even been invented when GT4 came out yet it still had this rare cars for a limited time.
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SoloKingRobert
Banned
You're comparing a Free to Play Game (Halo Infinite) to a £70 game (Gran Turismo 7)?
Dodkrake
Banned
And like the game doesnt give you free cars a bunch. I have almost as many cars in around 10h than I got in GT4 (the last one I played) in many moreFolk in this thread make it sound as if you can't earn credits in-game or purchase an expensive car unless you pay up for these microtransactions
Pantz
Member
Would rather them not being in the game at all. If they must, at least make them reasonable for those who would use them.
Maybe they are looking at what people are spending on shark cards in GTA Online. At a glance it looks like cars can go for similar prices or more.
Other than being gross to see, it doesn't really affect me. Unless they did something like purposely make the grind worse than older games or something. That would be bad.
Going to start it later today and find out.
Maybe they are looking at what people are spending on shark cards in GTA Online. At a glance it looks like cars can go for similar prices or more.
Other than being gross to see, it doesn't really affect me. Unless they did something like purposely make the grind worse than older games or something. That would be bad.
Going to start it later today and find out.
ReBurn
Gold Member
This is literally the story of my life.
onesvenus
Member
If the only way of buying one of those cars is via credits and doing that is much more expensive than what you need to pay for them in GT sport, that's a price increaseThe Aston Martin Vulcan '16 is 3,300,000 in GTSport
The McClaren P1 GTR '16 is 3,600,000 in GTSport Also
Aston Martin Vulcan '16
The Aston Martin Vulcan '16 is a track-focused hypercar produced by Aston Martin. It appears in Gran Turismo Sport and Gran Turismo 7. Five colors are available for this car: Helios Dark Craft Nebula Odyssey Legacy The Vulcan is a special model of Aston Martin that was revealed at the...gran-turismo.fandom.com
There is no price increase
McLaren P1 GTR '16
The McLaren P1 GTR '16 is a track-only hypercar produced by McLaren. It appears in Gran Turismo Sport (as part of Update 1.31) and Gran Turismo 7. The P1 GTR is a circuit-only race car based on the 'P1' Hybrid Supercar announced in 2013. It was revealed in 2014 to commemorate the 20th...
The ability to actually purchase cars from the PSN store isn't available yet
Anyway, that's my last post about this subject. I understand why Sony did it seeing how every fanboy in this thread is defending this shit
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
But it's the same damn price.
By the definition of what people in here are trying to make out, in order to complete your car collection you would have to add the prices up of every car in the game and convert that into credit top-ups.
And say in order to complete the game you "need" spend "insert here", Sony are greedy!
That's the mentality on display here.
Which you wouldn't do. Because it's stupid to do so and you're not ment to.
Same with this comparison.
And it'll will be even more stupid when they do start putting Cars on PSN for purchase and they aren't $40 each.
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Lupin25
Member
When is the last time Motorsport released? I’m talking about present games. Specify which one.
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ot but i love this gif.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
There is a 480mb game save in my PS5 saves, don't know what it does. Don't know about PS4.
STARSBarry
Gold Member
No I am responding to a post making the insinuation that people only cry out shitty business practices for a specific console. Halo's MTX strategy just so happened to be shitty even when compared to other F2P games filling the same space I am putting the point across people will and do point out shitty MTX decisions across the board, and that does not make people less likely to call out Gran Turismo's shitty credit system.
Gee I wonder if the new "limited stock" cars on a timer are a consequence of this... oh man I really feel rewarded being unable to buy a car because the game "decided" I took too long, perhaps I should buy credits to be able to purchase it now before this virtual item suddenly "sells out"
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Jibran#one
Member
I think major problem occurs If the paid car is faster than all the cheap ones easy to get cars , either way it's a shitty practice , even f2p games don't have 40 dollar worth of 1 item
93xfan
Banned
you don't think they tailored the in game currency at all to encourage MTX? something tells me they probably did, given this level of greed
lughnasadh123
Member
Meanwhile I'm thinking they can fuck off for even asking five bucks for the car. $40 is more inline with a robust expansion.
kyussman
Member
I've still not got into next gen yet and the more I see of this stuff the more I'm not sure if I will.I'm not going to declare I'm done with gaming in the dramatic manner that some do but I will say I'm 49 years old this year and I've seen many gens of gaming......where it is going these days just really turns me off,so many games are becoming online stores with games attatched.....and this has happened quite quicly for me,at the end of last gen I was enjoying games like Ghost of Tsushima and having a great time.It's only since I've had a break from gaming that I've started to see just how much games are being designed to keep people paying for them after the initial spend.....yes,it's all optional,but it just doesn't sit right with me any more.....hopefully a game will come along that gets me excited again.
Calling 911 Melts Beams
Banned
this star citizen thread has really gone off the rails
Mabdia
Member
Seeing that you are using bonus given that you bough a deluxe edition that don't sound that good to me.
Nothing against some grind in GT. But all against micro-transactions in a full priced game. If they wanted the micro-transactions they should have released the game in PS+. Early progress has always easy on GT. The problem is when you had to get the cars that cost more. I have more than 500 hours in GTS and only one CR$ 20,000,000 car. The game was designed to spend money in it and that is disgusting for a full priced game.
Again, I can accept it in a F2P game. Or I can accept it in a Forza game since they "give it for free" if you have Microsoft's service. But not for a U$70 game.
Feel Like I'm On 42
Member
That, as well as how big the push us to turn everything into a service. Gamepass is great but I don't want that to become the only way to play games. Also, online only requirements and DRM. Destiny 2 removing huge chunks of content that I paid a premium for that I can't ever play again because it's inconvenient to Bungie. That is my biggest nightmare in gaming come true because I have a huge digital library of games that I want to be able to keep and play years down the line.
These companies don't want us to own our games they want to have control. Nintendo with their online services now instead of allowing people to cheaply buy games like they did on the Wii U virtual console.
Forcing console players into crossplay against PC has been a recent trend. Then of course battlepasses and mtx's. There are just so many negative trends in gaming.
bender
What time is it?
Look at the math again. I haven't used any of the bonus credits and have not dipped into that reserve. Early on, my earnings are outpacing my spending. That's not me trying to justify the ridiculous monetization in this game, just early impressions.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
The people on GAF who took great delight in Halo and Forza’s MTX:
Rhazer Fusion
Member
I see. Now I’m wondering how bad the grinding is in this game if they have the audacity to charge that much for a car.
Rat Rage
Member
Stop complaining! Microtransactions are good for you, 70$ games are good for you, GAAS is good for you, 40 dollar GT7 cars are good for you, because with all the extra money these passionate gaming companies and their visionary CEO's make, they'll gonna bring you better and more fun gaming experiences in the future! Don't you see, it's all for the benefit of you, the "Gamers", a.k.a the most intelligent and critical consumers out there.
Edgelord79
Gold Member
Between Horizon Forbidden West and this, Sony is on a roll.
Back to Elden Ring. Not supporting this nonsense.
Back to Elden Ring. Not supporting this nonsense.
Lumpyoatmeal
Member
Ray trace my microtransaction purchase receipts while you’re at it.
Lognor
Banned
Yeah, and even with Halo being free to play there are still a ton of people complaining about the high costs of the mtx. Where is the outrage for GT7? I get that it's not nearly as popular, but then you have certain people even defending it. lol For a $70 game?!?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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Tripolygon
Banned
If you are getting 80000 credits in an hour, you are doing something really wrong. A single 6 minutes race can net you 35,000 credits times 1Hr = 350,000 credits. There are races that can net you up to 65,000 per race.
BlitzerRadic
Member
LOL why? Reviewers had no issue with the amount of credits you could earn while playing the game before mtx were turned on why is it a problem now that you can buy them?
Why yall bitching about how much mtx cost if yall dont even buy them in the first place? These mtx are for people like me who dont give a shit about dropping extra coin on games.
SLB1904
Banned
thats the problem with the majority of people in this thread. you guys no nothing
ManaByte
Member
SLB1904
Banned
yeah but gt7 wasnt. everyone knew there was microtransactions in gt7
Nankatsu
Gold Member
Pretty much yeah, it will even make the purchase more special.
ManaByte
Member
No they were. They didn't go live with the prices until after the review embargo dropped, meaning reviewers didn't see them until after they posted their reviews.
blackjon24
Member
Love this game and series. Get this micro transaction garbage out of here. So sick of pay to win chills defending this crap.
Especially don’t want to hear it from the deluxe edition guys who started with 1.5 million credits
Especially don’t want to hear it from the deluxe edition guys who started with 1.5 million credits
onesvenus
Member
I don't think you are understanding me.
Let's write down actual facts as of today:
- The only way of buying cars in GT7 is via credits
- Those credits can be earned in-game or bought in the PS store
- Car prices in credits are the same as in GT Sport so there hasn't been an increase on price in credits
- Buying a top car in GT Sport with money had a cost of 5$
- Buying a top car in GT7 with money has a cost of 40$
Look at the two last points, it's really not that difficult
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
I am curious why after all this effort at fanboy calling, someone posts this? Those planes are made by third party you know? There is an entire market of third party content creators for flight simulators. You can see the name of the creator below each of the planes.
Its very complex to accurately model these planes with all the hundreds of actionable switches and their own custom avionics. You don't expect Aerosoft to do all this work for free do you?
Aerosoft US Shop
Aerosoft | The online shop for PC Simulation, Hardware & Games. Discover Flight simulation ✓ Train simulation ✓ Bus simulation ✓ Truck simulation ✓…
www.aerosoft.com
Infact one of the early concerns after Flight Simulator 2020 reveal was if they will allow third party content like other Flight Simulators.
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SLB1904
Banned
the irony lolI am curious why after all this effort at fanboy calling, someone posts this? Those planes are made by third party you know? There is an entire market of third party content creators for flight simulators. You can see the name of the creator below each of the planes.
Its very complex to accurately model these planes with all the hundreds of actionable switches and their own custom avionics. You don't expect Aerosoft to do all this work for free do you?
Aerosoft US Shop
Aerosoft | The online shop for PC Simulation, Hardware & Games. Discover Flight simulation ✓ Train simulation ✓ Bus simulation ✓ Truck simulation ✓…
Infact one of the early concerns after Flight Simulator 2020 reveal was if they will allow third party content like other Flight Simulators.
Karak
Member
How many of those flight sim planes were in the game? For some reason I thought they were created by others or something
Bernkastel
Ask me about my fanboy energy!
What a fitting tag. This guy is explained the reasoning behind the pricing of community made third party content which are decided by the devs who make them and thinks its ironic to not direct the response of this thread to Flight Simulator instead?