Jimmyisback
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Xbox has day one exclusives. Biggest differentiator
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How PlayStation Plus Compares to Xbox Game Pass and Nintendo Switch Online
Chukhopops
Member
But.. these newer PS5 games won’t be in the service any time soon, even Returnal will be over a year old when added (assuming it’s added when the revamped service launches).
Are people going to skip all new releases and wait a year or more to be added to a service? I doubt it, I wouldn’t wait a year to play FH5 or Starfield just so I can play it through a sub.
I also disagree that the flow of releases isn’t good enough to stay subbed but that’s a personal preference. I pay GP monthly and there hasn’t been a month where I would see nothing good out of the 15-20 games added.
Assaulty
Member
Just because you could, doesn't mean you should applies to 90% of the comments here.
End of the day: who honestly cares which subscription is "better"? I personally own 2 series x's and I am more than extatic with GPU and the prospect of getting all Bethesda/activision/first party games day 1. Does that give me a reason to childishly defend gamepass? No, because I'm not 13 years old.
If I ever get a PS5 I'm 100% subbing to ps+ for the simple fact that legacy ps4/5 titles will have gone to the service by then. The service sounds great and I'm sure it's going to be a great succes for Sony. Now I would go out of my way to buy a PS5 if first party games were to be day 1 on the service, but I can understand that Sony doesn't have the deep pockets nor the desire to make that move. Their first party games are selling like hotcakes, so who can blame them?
TL
R both services are pro consumer, can't we just enjoy the games for a change?
End of the day: who honestly cares which subscription is "better"? I personally own 2 series x's and I am more than extatic with GPU and the prospect of getting all Bethesda/activision/first party games day 1. Does that give me a reason to childishly defend gamepass? No, because I'm not 13 years old.
If I ever get a PS5 I'm 100% subbing to ps+ for the simple fact that legacy ps4/5 titles will have gone to the service by then. The service sounds great and I'm sure it's going to be a great succes for Sony. Now I would go out of my way to buy a PS5 if first party games were to be day 1 on the service, but I can understand that Sony doesn't have the deep pockets nor the desire to make that move. Their first party games are selling like hotcakes, so who can blame them?
TL
R both services are pro consumer, can't we just enjoy the games for a change?StealthGoblin
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That actually isn’t the case for PS+, which is why they’ve priced it the way they have. Their yearly pricing has always been their most popular.
Trogdor1123
Member
How long till gamepass puts out a yearly rate?
TheGodfather07
Member
but these newer games will still bring in more subscribers than much older games. most people still dont have a PS5 and havent played games like ratchet or returnal yet. if sony can add more to that, the better. obviously we know sony wont be launching day 1 so theres no point going to that discussion. newer 3rd party and 1st party games that have released within the last year will be the main draw.
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Topher
Gold Member
Just because you could, doesn't mean you should applies to 90% of the comments here.
End of the day: who honestly cares which subscription is "better"? I personally own 2 series x's and I am more than extatic with GPU and the prospect of getting all Bethesda/activision/first party games day 1. Does that give me a reason to childishly defend gamepass? No, because I'm not 13 years old.
If I ever get a PS5 I'm 100% subbing to ps+ for the simple fact that legacy ps4/5 titles will have gone to the service by then. The service sounds great and I'm sure it's going to be a great succes for Sony. Now I would go out of my way to buy a PS5 if first party games were to be day 1 on the service, but I can understand that Sony doesn't have the deep pockets nor the desire to make that move. Their first party games are selling like hotcakes, so who can blame them?
TL
I'm with you. I'm primarily a PlayStation guy but I love Game Pass on my XSX. No need to dog it or put it down. It is a great service. I'll wait and see what games PS+ brings to decide if I upgrade my PS+ sub or just leave it alone. I'm not too worried about day one stuff with the pricing Sony has established, but it needs to have a good library.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I don't think they will, the only way to get a year at once is gold to GPU conversion.
Gamerguy84
Member
I'm excited for the new look/service incoming. I already sub to PS+ and PSNOW so this is just going to add value to that.
Chukhopops
Member
I mean, it’s a step in the right direction compared to PSNow, but it’s not like they have announced any game list or anything. They mention some games available at launch but nothing more recent than a year (and they don’t mention anything about Ratchet afaik).
There’s tons of speculation about live service games launching day 1, 3rd party games day 1 etc but that’s based on nothing tangible. I’m curious about April games for PSNow and if it will start snowing more effort.
JLB
Banned
I can agree with that as well.
Captain Toad
Banned
Check again
Lognor
Banned
I don't know why people would want to pay annually anyway, even with a small savings. I like going month to month because I can cancel at any time if I no longer need the service. Right now I have stocked up on Game Pass due to the conversion, but once that ends I'll go month to month.
PropellerEar
Member
So what I see is:
Plus is included with every tier, Gold is only GPU...
Plus still has the annual pricing discount, GP doesnt...never did...and Gold no longer has it thru MS. Have to get cards/codes from retailers now. MS has gotten rid of annual subs...How this flew under the radar is wild.
Price and which tiers get Plus is all I was waiting to see...
In fact....most ppl didnt realize Plus has been $9.99 a month since it launched in 2010...because the annual sub comes out to $4.99 a month....
Hell, Gold is $9.99 a month, has been for years....and once upon a time ppl paid the $60 a year for the annual sub...but MS stopped offering annual subs for it. Again, how the hell did this fly under the radar?
Exclusives day one tho, amirite?
Ppl arguing that paying $60 a year annually vs $120 a year monthly, or any of the yearly vs monthly pricing is silly is strange.
Plus is included with every tier, Gold is only GPU...
Plus still has the annual pricing discount, GP doesnt...never did...and Gold no longer has it thru MS. Have to get cards/codes from retailers now. MS has gotten rid of annual subs...How this flew under the radar is wild.
Price and which tiers get Plus is all I was waiting to see...
Agree, its not a silly argument.
In fact....most ppl didnt realize Plus has been $9.99 a month since it launched in 2010...because the annual sub comes out to $4.99 a month....
Hell, Gold is $9.99 a month, has been for years....and once upon a time ppl paid the $60 a year for the annual sub...but MS stopped offering annual subs for it. Again, how the hell did this fly under the radar?
Exclusives day one tho, amirite?
Ppl arguing that paying $60 a year annually vs $120 a year monthly, or any of the yearly vs monthly pricing is silly is strange.
Thank you.
120 vs 180 is 40% difference
Small savings
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Of course, it's arguably the most important thing between the two. And only one day 1 $60 game makes over the difference between the annual subs of $120 vs $180.
All the dozens of day 1 games from first and third parties are just the icing on top of the sweet sweet cake.
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Alternatively if the difference really feels that notable, you can get GPU for 1 year for $60 + $1 converting Gold to Game Pass.
50% savings over the nearest annual competitor and everything that comes with the highest tier of game pass to go with it.
Win win for everyone.
No, it still works.
IGN probably felt that including a annual plan was more important than day 1 games or the ability to get 3 years of GP for as much as 1 year of PS+.
For .. reasons ? I suppose.
What's the old adage ? can't spell ignorant without IGN right ?
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Tommi84
Member
Taking into account the APPALLING state of some of those games, they will be better off wait for the creators to fix the broken shit with the game thsn play on day 1
Mr Moose
Member
50%.
120 vs 180 is 40% difference
Small savings
Dynasty8
Member
Yeah but no new Switch games, right? I'm not hating, it's worth the low price for anyone interested in those older titles, but this is supposed to be a comparison of primarily newer titles. Unless their service will include a number of Switch games, I don't see why it's even being compared.
kingfey
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kingfey
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Can't help someone who doesn't know how to calculate day1 games.
120 vs 180 is 40% difference
Small savings
kingfey
Banned
Not enough good ps3 systems. Plus cloud is easier for them, to reach pc audience.
Topher
Gold Member
Closer
Member
You are right, just saw it. It's gonna be good for those that never bought those games.
SenjutsuSage
Banned
All first party Xbox games being Day One appearances on Game Pass is THE biggest selling point of Game Pass and somehow it isn't on that chart? Okay.
TheGodfather07
Member
i wouldnt be surprised if sony didnt but i do expect most of their first party to go to the library eventually. the big releases will obviously have a delay but how long? its hard to tell with sony but a year is probably what is expected. big 3rd party games at launch will be difficult and is unlikely but smaller titles and indies will probably happen. it really depends on how much sony are willing to push and invest in it. they are making more money with the brand than they ever have before and i dont think they want to go all in on a subscription model. this will just be an extra source of revenue for them.
Calverz
Member
Why do you think they are most popular? Ask yourself that question.
Topher
Gold Member
Dream-Knife
Banned
Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo don't host the servers for third party games though. The fee for the server is in the price of the game.
The same game cost should apply to first party titles as well.
Example: I've bought Monster Hunter Rise twice in the last year. On Switch I had to pay to access Capcoms server. On PC I did not. The server fee is covered in the cost of the same. Nintendo charges you because they have a monopoly on the hardware.
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Tams
Member
- Sometimes they do.
- The online shops and saves need servers. The latter isn't a huge amount of data, but it is still a cost.
- There are still the first party games, and no, the cost of the server are not factored into the game price.
Dream-Knife
Banned
The cost of the server is always factored into the price of the game though. They aren't going to lose money selling a game. Some games charge a fee, like MMOs.
You're still just paying for your Internet that you already pay for.
On saves, it's nice they don't allow you to back them up, strong arming you into paying for their "service".
Lognor
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First of all, your math is wrong. Second of all, it is small savings. Maybe not for you, but for me it is.
120 vs 180 is 40% difference
Small savings
And I'd rather do month to month so I can cancel at anytime. Doing a year at a time, you're locked in. Imagine subscribing to the top tier of PS+ for a year and then finding out it's trash. Yeah, good luck with that.
kingfey
Banned
I understand you like to defend these guys.
But how is what I said wrong?
Topher
Gold Member
You attempted to move the discussion on the cost difference of the services to some nonsense about calculating day one. By definition, that's moving the goal posts.
His math is not wrong.
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Lognor
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Please show the math. I want to see how you got to 40%.
BigLee74
Member
Behave. There’s a difference between a one off payment of 40 quid v 120 quid.
As things get pricier, monthly is more manageable, even if you end up paying more for the year.
Or are we meant to be pretending we are all rich gamers with megabucks disposable income?
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Lognor
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Topher
Gold Member
My bad. That was the percentage change calculator.
https://www.calculatorsoup.com/calc...e-calculator.php?v_1=120&v_2=180&action=solve
kingfey
Banned
Maybe you need read the 2 posts first.
The first guy said said savings.
The other guy tried to to make fun of it.
Aside of gamepass pc being part of the service, the day 1 makes more savings.
Next time, read the replay before you try to jump on like a knight.
Topher
Gold Member
Gaming is a luxury. Why are you pretending we all paupers scraping up pennies to buy gaming services. See? That argument works both ways.
Behave yourself.
I read all of it. You went off course because you didn't like the facts being presented.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Its like three roommates bumping into each other here’s how pc gaming works, steam, save money take advantage of steam sales.
Tams
Member
Clearly not, as all three console makers now charge for most online play, including for their first-party titles.
Exceptions are for the likes of Fortnite, where Epic pick up the tab.
kingfey
Banned
Wow, facts. That a new word coming from you.
Its pointless to argue with you about that at this point.
Well believe what you want.
Dream-Knife
Banned
They do it because they can. They have a monopoly on the hardware. You have no choice.
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