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Ulysses 31
Member
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Exactly so when one stands out so much like the twerking one it will likely be more commented on.
I didn't say anything about the quality it adds to the She-Hulk show.
I don't know MCU/Comic She-Hulk enough to say if it's out of character for her.
Nah, you're thinking I was comparing the craftmanship quality of the scenes when I'm talking about how little the scenes add to the overall show and thus they could be more easily judged without seeing the whole episode.
For the record, I don't think that She-Hulk scene was anywhere near as badly done as the Leia chase one.
It's in character for her. She's a partier... She's even been kicked out of the Avengers for partying too much! So the twerking, 4th wall breaking... Shoot... She even travels between panels and pages to get skip the dialogue LMBO! She's comedy in the comics too... Like Deadpool but less crazy.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Hulk noticed her speaking... Notice that NO ONE ELSE has noticed. He's a hulk so he knows.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
MrMephistoX
Member
It would be convenient to blame Zuckerberg or foreign government sponsored trolls for trying to make everyone hate everything online but at the end of the day we did this to ourselves: "fan" hate sells online "fan" love doesn't unlike the real world where voting with your wallet and supporting a franchise is really all that matters. Online algorithms are voting for you and feeding what ever gets the most attention and eyeballs regardless of quality or mental health detriment. I did an experiment recently and created a brand new TikTok and Youtube accounts and as soon as I indicated I was a fan of Star Wars all I got were the same group of assholes bashing every minute detail of each episode of Obi Wan week to week or tired Rey is Mary Sue arguments sometimes with just outright stupid theories about characters that were disproven mere episodes later...and I'm still getting the same regurgitated crap daily in my feed since that old content continues to rack up views and goes back into my feed. Its weird and I don't know where I'm going with this but I think I'm at the point where I'd rather not discuss some of the things I enjoy online period but at least NeoGaf is pretty balanced and I just skip through stuff I disagree with since its not a bot suggesting it. The thing that bothers me is that you can't just switch channels anymore if you don't like the content the entire platform still feeds you the negative shit so I guess its healthier just to opt out entirely?
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sol_bad
Member
You have to tell Youtube not to suggest various channels. Sometimes I would see what Nerdrotic, Yellowflash, Starwarsgirl and Thequartering were saying just for the hell of it out of curiosity. It really does affect you mentally after a while and Youtube would constantly recommend channels of their ilk. After I right clicked and hit the don't suggest channel button, Youtube eventually got the hint and I don't get all those negative channel suggestions. I'll still check those channels out on occasion but not much because I don't agree with any of their styles of "critique".
adamosmaki
Member
2 pac is extremely famous rapper. No one knows her
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
I made the mistake of watching two consecutive videos from a pair of YouTubers. husband and wife, who apparently traffic in outrage. I mostly agreed with them regarding the writing of a certain show so I cheerfully sat through the first video. A few alarms went off, but nothing major.
About a third into their second video, also on the same topic, I began to think "Christ, these two are really, really angry over some trivial stuff". Like sure, I didn't enjoy the show either, but I wasn't ready to saddle up and march off to the Holy Land over it. So after I finished that second episode I went ahead and let YouTube know that I didn't care for any more content from them.
That was about a year ago. To this day I still get a similar suggestion once a week or so. Some other outrage streamer using the same kinds of dialog, the same simple and often undefined criticisms of art, etc.
TheDreadBaron
Member
Fucking great movie.
My wife leans feminist, and she got one look at the promotional material for this show and dismissed it because she thought it looked stupid. Maybe she’d love it if she gave it a chance, but the fact is it turned her off and it is turning a lot of people off, and yet people are acting like there’s no way to come by that opinion honestly. Do you folks really believe all criticism is drummed up from incels who get their marching orders from the quartering? It’s true there’s an industry of negativity on YouTube and I’ve had to stop watching channels that lean into it too much and tell it to stop recommending them, but even though that stuff is an exaggeration it’s rooted in what people are actually feeling or else there would be no audience. Seems like it’s a pretty big cop out for some of you folks to go straight to the incel boogeyman when people don’t like the thing you like. That’s as obnoxious as trying to claim that everyone in this thread that likes the show gets their opinions fed to them by the woke media’s endless propaganda campaign.
GymWolf
Member
Surely not her, she got a gaming chair.
BadBurger
Is 'That Pure Potato'
My opinion: you and your wife's reactions are completely normal. Society is never going to universally like a given work of art regardless of their previous dispositions or predilections.
But remember: the outrage producers, and especially their audience, aren't typically responding to the art as a whole. Most evident in the fact that many outrage purveyors aren't even watching the shows they're criticizing. So it does no good to compare the honest reactions you and your wife had with the reactions of some guy on the internet who is being lathered up by YouTube then sicced upon a hapless populace who just thinks two women twerking is a bit of forgettable good fun. As an example - I am not claiming that you do.
Man, we really need a new episode lol. We're running out of things about the actual show to talk about here.
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TaylorSwiftFan
Member
First, a bit of a stretch calling she-hulk art. Secondly, channels like nerdrotic and critical drinker do watch the shows and are able to critique the show sensibly.
strange headache
Banned
This is just sad.
Methos#1975
Member
Nothing related to this show on its own, but it's pretty crazy to me that House of the Dragon and Rings of Power are hitting 25 million viewers but none of these MCU and Star Wars shows Disney is pushing can even manage 2 million viewers. You think as big as these franchise are and with the sub numbers Disney is posting at least one would do much better. At one point does Disney see these as flops when compared to other franchise and stop pushing this media out? And how will these low viewership numbers equate to films with these charcters?
Punished Miku
Gold Member
They can get into if need be, but they also literally make a living off of being perpetually outraged.
FYI, I just got a new secret leak that Kathleen Kennedy is about to get fired, just like I said for the last 5 years. And make sure to click the bell icon and hit subscribe so we can be mad about it every single day for the next 5 years.
ManaByte
Member
The funniest part of that saga was when one of those idiots posted a video claiming secret insider information that she was going to be fired, and the next day they extended her contract another three years. Almost as if Disney did it to troll them.
sol_bad
Member
How many other shows in general hit the heights of GoT and LOTR? I'm pretty sure the majority of MCU shows top the charts on streaming so I'm pretty sure Marvel are fine with their viewership.
strange headache
Banned
If you cannot understand the difference between this
and this
you're an idiot.
and this
you're an idiot.
John Bilbo
Member
I don't know that Joker booty thoughIf you cannot understand the difference between this
and this
you're an idiot.
pramod
Banned
I just realized that her origin story made no sense. Why didnt Bruce auto-transform into the Hulk when the car rolled off the road? We were told before that Banner is pretty much unkillable, he cant even commit suicide by firing a gun into his mouth. Did he lose that ability? So does that mean now some guy can just sneak up behind Banner and shoot him in the head and thats it for the Hulk?
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Ulysses 31
Member
That's what the inhibiter was for...
It doesn't make much sense that he's healing in normal form when Hulk has super healing though.
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ManaByte
Member
Did the video where you got this hot take from not mention how he was wearing an inhibitor that kept him in human form?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
She's a rapper with fans of every "race" and stripe. Jen is a fan of hers... Plain and simple. YOU don't have to like her to get that.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Yes, they make a living off of it. But how does that discredit the content or points they make?
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Oh I get it.. I just don’t think she should be on a Disney show .. or anything really.
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sol_bad
Member
Oh I get it.. I just don’t think she should be on a Disney show .. or anything really.
It's a Marvel show, not a Disney show.
daffyduck
Member
At least it wasn't Rhianna.Oh I get it.. I just don’t think she should be on a Disney show .. or anything really.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Oh I get it.. I just don’t think she should be on a Disney show .. or anything really.
LMBO! I'm listening to John Campea right now and he's trashing on dudes bothered by this post credits scene ... Glorious! It's a freaking COMEDY show!
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ManaByte
Member
And I'm sure they're just spamming him with that clip from his Transformers review.
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
I don’t care about the end credit scene. I thought it was funny.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
You did? Why didn't you say that then?I don’t care about the end credit scene. I thought it was funny.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Listening to John Campea… I see.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
And? At least he's not an outrage YouTuber telling me what to think of a show or movie I haven't seen.
ManaByte
Member
But have you seen Toby Maguire’s dick?
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
And he absolutely cannot provide good critique. He is a shill who relies on the good grace of studios to get early access. That’s why he cannot be impartial. Youtubers like nerdrotic and critical drinker can dissect a movie and explain what’s good and bad and why.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
I’m curious - who said that?
ManaByte
Member
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
The fact remains that you still rely on their opinion to form your own ... Which is just parroting someone else's opinion.
I will watch something and come to my own conclusion.
If those YouTubers already tell you WHAT they didn't like, are they really impartial?
I could tell you why I didn't like something and break it down ... But I'm telling and showing you these things colored by my own opinion. It wouldn't be impartial and it's bad faith to say they are.
Do they like ANY Marvel or Disney or Star Wars or other genre property? Or are they all outraged over these but give anything non-disney/non-dc a pass?
Btw, my favorite Superman movie is Man of Steel... And that was opinion before I ever found Campea last year. I went to the theater in 2013, got the blu-ray and even watched it on HBO Max! I also LOVE ZSJL more than he does ... He didn't like Moon Knight or Falcon and the Winter Soldier... I did! Saying he is a shill is stupid when he's not liked plenty of Marvel and DC stuff.
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Marvel14
Banned
It's a comedy though and this guy is reviewing it like it's supposed to be representative high drama that should speak to men everywhere.
I think it's just supposed to be funny that women are better at being hulks than men are. And it's completely believable since men's rage gets out of control more easily/frequently than women's and men in general are less graceful and poised than women are. Everything she says in this scene would make most women crack a smile.
Yes it's nodding to woke femininity but as a comedy not taking itself seriously
which I think is not soo bad and certainly not worthy of visceral hate unless youre uber insecure yourself.
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TaylorSwiftFan
Member
A bit strange coming from you since you form your opinions from watching John Campea.
But surely you can have a feel for how something will turn out before you watch it, right? From everything that I’ve seen from The Rings of Power, for example, it was clear that it would be a disaster of a Tolkien-based show. This was confirmed when I watched it.
I like quite a few of the MCU movies - Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, GotG, Infinity War, the last Spider-Man movie. Most of the MCU movies are crap but there’s a few good ones in there.
Star Wars was before my time but I like the original trilogy well enough. Anything after that can be thrown in the trash.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
One is in a well-regarded movie and the other is in a bad TV show. Also, one is twerking and the other is dancing. Not quite comparable.
GymWolf
Member
The dance scene in the beginning of gotg2 was the cringiest shit i ever seen and people are defending that horrible shitshow?
Let female hulk shake her ass, still better than fucking teenager root dancing like a mongoloid while his squad get blasted, i was about to leave the movie theater after that...
Let female hulk shake her ass, still better than fucking teenager root dancing like a mongoloid while his squad get blasted, i was about to leave the movie theater after that...
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NotMyProblemAnymoreCunt
Gold Member
InterMusketeer
Member
Alternatively they could actually make good movies and shows without cringy dance scenes.
GymWolf
Member
I don't even watch marvel stuff anymore so i have no dog in this race.
AJUMP23
Member
The best of all of us.
John Bilbo
Member
Is that Harley Quinn from Joker 2?