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IGN France: Yes, Redfall was originally planned for PS5

Dick Jones

Gold Member
That is on SE for not building a fan base on xbox. They basically pick and choose games to release and most are very old games when they come out. That's not the way to build a fan base. It be like a TV network complaining about ratings of a show but also leave out they skip showing seasons of a show and the seasons that come out are years late. Why would a anyone who owns a xbox be a fan when they are treated like crap by SE.
Crisis Core came out on the same date (if we ignore its a PSP original) as the PS5. Its the prequel to FFVII available on Xbox. Xbox fans showed the demand for Final Fantasy games on its ecosystem and I'm sure they will be rewarded for the high sales as a result. It is a bit weird that games outside exclusivity aren't coming to Xbox.
 
Honestly, it just only shows that Sony was right to at least try and stop the Activision purchase. Never in history has a console maker looked to buy out large multibillion-dollar 3rd party publishers like Microsoft is doing. What's going on is unprecedented. So now I definitely believe that Sony's current actions against the Microsoft/Activision deal is justified.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Crisis Core came out on the same date (if we ignore its a PSP original) as the PS5. Its the prequel to FFVII available on Xbox. Xbox fans showed the demand for Final Fantasy games on its ecosystem and I'm sure they will be rewarded for the high sales as a result. It is a bit weird that games outside exclusivity aren't coming to Xbox.
Sales data, please?

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Color me shocked... lol Of course they had a version for the most popular console on the market lol it was very likely the LEAD platform.

Look, Phil could have really wanted to "Not take anything away from Sony" but unfortunately Phil has a Boss and they could have shut that down... I doubt he was "lying," but things change and he may have had to walk that statement back... no biggie.
 

quest

Not Banned from OT
Crisis Core came out on the same date (if we ignore its a PSP original) as the PS5. Its the prequel to FFVII available on Xbox. Xbox fans showed the demand for Final Fantasy games on its ecosystem and I'm sure they will be rewarded for the high sales as a result. It is a bit weird that games outside exclusivity aren't coming to Xbox.
Wow 1 old psp port came out day and date. Thats dedication to the fan base lol. While there is 3 more exclusives for 2023 for playstation. It be like COD building a fan base on a new console skipping years and the years it comes out are the 1-2 year old versions. Im sure sales would be great for them lol.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Wow 1 old psp port came out day and date. Thats dedication to the fan base lol. While there is 3 more exclusives for 2023 for playstation. It be like COD building a fan base on a new console skipping years and the years it comes out are the 1-2 year old versions. Im sure sales would be great for them lol.
What fanbase?

And did you just compare CoD to this?
 

Dick Jones

Gold Member
Sales data, please?
The Switch and Xbox sales are 20% of total so it must be the case that it is about 6% are on Xbox.

It will definitely just make just over the port costs. Why wouldnt they port it, the risk of a small loss at worse but it could break even or maybe a tiny profit is a great incentive. Haven't you been reading the great insight earlier in this thread?

It could make enough to cover the port costs!

Wow 1 old psp port came out day and date. Thats dedication to the fan base lol. While there is 3 more exclusives for 2023 for playstation. It be like COD building a fan base on a new console skipping years and the years it comes out are the 1-2 year old versions. Im sure sales would be great for them lol.
It is a prequel to a game already available on Xbox. It comes out day and date on all platforms so it showed the demand for FF games on Xbox. Did you buy it? It's a good game. FFXVI only has a six month exclusivity so I'm sure it will be out right after on Xbox.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Now you're just grasping at straws, has Bethesda a history of having trouble funding their games? You seem to have already forgotten what this thread is about, a PS5 version was already planned here (prob worked on even).
Double Fine has nothing to to do with Bethesda and their studios. And from what i remember Double Fine was not doing so well financially and i have no issues with MS helping out these types of studios but we're getting out of topic.

I have a hard time believing you here. What you're saying makes no sense. The difference is SE will still release games on Xbox if MS really cared about their games "cough FF14 cough" because Sony doesn't own them or their IP's. That's a BIG ASS difference. MS could right now go to SE and tell them we want this and that here's a bag of money. You really believe SE would say no?..... Anyways compare that to Bethesda and their massive fanbase on PlayStation, now owned by MS a direct competitor to Sony. Tell me now who dictates where The Elder Scrolls, Fallout series, DOOM, Wolfenstein, QUAKE........etc etc on which platform those games are going to end up on?

Your last sentence i won't even entertain....

Just pointing out how having a big MS bank could have improved their experience.

Everything other than that is something we all know. Were all these games that are now Xbox/PC exclusive going to be released on other platforms before the acquisition ? Sure why not.

But as this topic's statements from the Arkane dev/guy/person shows, it's kind of a moot point at this moment.

On a similar tangent, if Square does become a Sony studio, then any discussion about porting their games over will be an equally moot point.


Let's assume for a second you're correct (although you are not), and SE extended the exclusivity from April 2021 to December 2021. It has been 13 months since the exclusivity period ended.

We are assuming here that the console exclusivity period has not been extended further still. How many times do companies usually come out and say that their game is exclusive for X period of time, especially Japanese companies. The ones that do are in the extreme minority.




It is a prequel to a game already available on Xbox. It comes out day and date on all platforms so it showed the demand for FF games on Xbox. Did you buy it? It's a good game. FFXVI only has a six month exclusivity so I'm sure it will be out right after on Xbox.


mmhmm you cheeky bugger :messenger_winking:
 
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Murdok

Member
Sony made them cancel their Xbox versions? 😮 Source please?
Which one of those had the Xbox version cancelled?

Sony made them cancel their Xbox versions? 😮 Source please?

Final Fantasy VII Remake had it's exclusivity period announced in it's trailer along with all of the other games you listed except for KOTOR since SIE is publishing that one themselves. False equivalences continue to beat some of your asses.
No, but it is the intention of her and her followers, anyway Bethesda belongs to Ms and it can do what it wants with its games, since sony does not own any of these Dev but even so it pays to remove it from the xbox , buying exclusivity and extending for unknown periods

Every exclusivity that sony makes you are doing damage control, for us I hope for Ms to buy more Dev and make sony drink its own medicine
 
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Mr Moose

Member
No, but it is the intention of her and her followers, anyway Bethesda belongs to Ms and it can do what it wants with its games, since sony does not own any of these Dev but even so it pays to remove it from the xbox , buying exclusivity and extending for unknown periods
So they did or didn't pay to cancel the Xbox version?
The unknown period is known, it ended in 2021 when the PC version released.
 

MarkMe2525

Member
I'm sure there are even more games, that in the early or preproduction phase, were slated for PS5. Bethesda was a multiplatform developer, it makes sense that many of the games they have on their roadmap has had PS5 release planned at one point.
 
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Murdok

Member
All right, you have to remove EVERYTHING, for me Microsoft cut everything, it even took Minecraft away from the kids. When it comes to the Xbox guy, he can do anything, he can remove Street Fighter, he can remove Final Fantasy, he can remove Remakes of games, if he hadn't bought Bethesda he would have lost even Starfield.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
All right, you have to remove EVERYTHING, for me Microsoft cut everything, it even took Minecraft away from the kids. When it comes to the Xbox guy, he can do anything, he can remove Street Fighter, he can remove Final Fantasy, he can remove Remakes of games, if he hadn't bought Bethesda he would have lost even Starfield.
Tantrum Crying GIF
 

DarkBatman

SBI’s Employee of the Year
Threads like this make me miss SenjutsuSage so much.
I'd love to read his take on this right now. Such irrefutable statements from the developer source bring his motley "MS is so wonderful and hasn't taken anything away from the PS5" world straight down the drain.

But let's be honest: We all knew that versions for Redfall and Starfield PS5 were planned, which were canceled immediately after the acquisition.
And that's not a problem in itself, that's MS's right.
But people like Phil Spencer then should simply keep their mouths shut and avoid lying PR like "We only want to make the games accessible to more gamers".
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Threads like this make me miss SenjutsuSage so much.
I'd love to read his take on this right now. Such irrefutable statements from the developer source bring his motley "MS is so wonderful and hasn't taken anything away from the PS5" world straight down the drain.

But let's be honest: We all knew that versions for Redfall and Starfield PS5 were planned, which were canceled immediately after the acquisition.
And that's not a problem in itself, that's MS's right.
But people like Phil Spencer then should simply keep their mouths shut and avoid lying PR like "We only want to make the games accessible to more gamers".
That's the problem that I think most of us have with him...Had he kept his mouth shut we'd probably talk way less about this.
 

Bernardougf

Gold Member
C'mon Microsoft, make us forget you're the bad guys and allow Arkane to produce Dishonored 3. Everything will be forgiven.
Dishonored is a franchise I always see people talking about and hyping it up ! I go and give it another try and I just cant get into it.. there is this games that everybody loves and you just cant like it .. it suxxxx kkkk I feel excluded from thr fun 😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨 lol 😅
 

Bernardougf

Gold Member
That's the problem that I think most of us have with him...Had he kept his mouth shut we'd probably talk way less about this.
That is no PR problem...it is a "saying the truth problem" they even put it on writing in documents submitted in the bethesda aquisition ... and two days later said "fuck it we off the hook" and made everything exclusive

People need to stop with "phil is a bad pr" hes a freaking liar that's what he is ... is his job to be one by the way... but he is what he is
 

kyussman

Member
Does anyone on PS5 really care that they can't play the latest GAAS looter shooter......now Dishonored 3 or Prey 2,that would be a different matter......are they even making any more of those.
 

Bernardougf

Gold Member
Threads like this make me miss SenjutsuSage so much.
I'd love to read his take on this right now. Such irrefutable statements from the developer source bring his motley "MS is so wonderful and hasn't taken anything away from the PS5" world straight down the drain.

But let's be honest: We all knew that versions for Redfall and Starfield PS5 were planned, which were canceled immediately after the acquisition.
And that's not a problem in itself, that's MS's right.
But people like Phil Spencer then should simply keep their mouths shut and avoid lying PR like "We only want to make the games accessible to more gamers".
His "im right here beside bill gates right now" insiders info is always amusing
 

Helghan

Member
I don’t think they mind. They’ve been saying it looks generic since the first trailer and they knew it wasn’t coming to PS5.
 

ANDS

King of Gaslighting
The only valuable thing of interest I get from this is that REDFALL non-curated previews are coming. Finally. The rest is "Well, no duh. . ." territory. Like how many months was it from "We want BETHESDA on as many platforms as possible" to "All upcoming BETHESDA releases are ostensibly XBOX only."
 

Nydius

Member
since sony does not own any of these Dev but even so it pays to remove it from the xbox , buying exclusivity and extending for unknown periods
You act like money hatting exclusives is a Sony only thing. :rolleyes:

Nintendo does it, Microsoft does it, Sony does it. Is it good for consumers? No, but let’s not sit here and act like only Sony is guilty. Without buying third party exclusives, the original Xbox and Xbox 360 would have been dead in the water.

Something people never recall is that it was MICROSOFT who began this Call of Duty timed exclusive DLC money hatting fuckery during the X360 era when they had the sales advantage. That timed exclusive DLC on multiplatform games bullshit didn’t exist before then, and when Sony took back the sales advantage with the PS4, Xbox fanboys lost their shit when Sony played the same game Microsoft did the generation before.

Stop acting like Sony is the only party guilty of this stuff.
 

ironmang

Member
Threads like this make me miss SenjutsuSage so much.
I'd love to read his take on this right now. Such irrefutable statements from the developer source bring his motley "MS is so wonderful and hasn't taken anything away from the PS5" world straight down the drain.

But let's be honest: We all knew that versions for Redfall and Starfield PS5 were planned, which were canceled immediately after the acquisition.
And that's not a problem in itself, that's MS's right.
But people like Phil Spencer then should simply keep their mouths shut and avoid lying PR like "We only want to make the games accessible to more gamers".
Cheaper is more accessible. Just look at the player numbers that GP games are hitting.

They even want to bring GP to PS5 but Sony won't allow them. Oh well.
 

Nydius

Member
so this is a non-factor.
Except for the fact that the CMA literally used Microsoft buying Bethesda and then (allegedly, at the time) ceasing development on PS5 versions of both Redfall and Starfield as one of their main reasons for investigating the ABK acquisition in one of their public statements.

But sure, it’s totally a ”non-factor”.
 
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kyussman

Member
Sony had a good relationship with Arkane, they should have tried to acquire them from Bethesda instead of playing it small and signing for timed exclusivities.

Now its too late and there is a big gap in PlayStation offering. Arkane are one of their kind studios, there really is no equivalent, and they are now the jewel of the crown of MS.
I would agree with you wholeheartedly based on their history......but then they go and announce Redfall as their first big Xbox game,a fucking lame arse co-op GAAS looter shooter.That's not exactly what I want Arkane to be wasting their time on.
 

nikolino840

Member
Except for the fact that the CMA literally used Microsoft buying Bethesda and then (allegedly, at the time) ceasing development on PS5 versions of both Redfall and Starfield as one of their main reasons for investigating the ABK acquisition in one of their public statements.

But sure, it’s totally a ”non-factor”.
Is not illegal making games only for one platform (even if you can play just with a samsung tv or phone without a console)
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
That is no PR problem...it is a "saying the truth problem" they even put it on writing in documents submitted in the bethesda aquisition ... and two days later said "fuck it we off the hook" and made everything exclusive

People need to stop with "phil is a bad pr" hes a freaking liar that's what he is ... is his job to be one by the way... but he is what he is
Believe me you don't need to convince me of that
 
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