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Baldur’s Gate 3 Standard Playthrough Takes 75 to 100 Hours, Larian Says
Guilty_AI
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Depends on why you'd call Divinity 3.
Writing style, overall tone, atmosphere and level design definitely resemble Divinity OS games more than classic Baldurs Gates. Not to mention its turn-based rather than RTwP.
On the other hand, this does follow D&D lore and systems. From some DM's i know, they say this feels closer to an actual D&D game than the old BGs, and its ruleset is based off a better edition than the 2e 1 and 2 were based on (Aparently 2e has some issues with its systems and balancing)
Guilty_AI
Member
Larian said their team size (around 400 core developers) and budget (not disclosed) are on AAA levels.
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amigastar
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Damn, 400 devs, thats definitely AAA level.
I remember Baldurs Gate 3 was supposed to release also on Stadia, but thats not gonna happen like we know by this time.
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Early access assuaged those concerns years ago. It’s not a classic Bioware game, rather something new, but they did fully commit to the setting, mechanics, and inspiration. If you liked the old infinity engine games then BG3 is a treat.
Nickolaidas
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Fools idol
Banned
they have some great writers working on the game too.
Kevin VanOrd (one of the ex Gamespot OG reviewers) is a lead writer I believe as well.
Kevin VanOrd (one of the ex Gamespot OG reviewers) is a lead writer I believe as well.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
geary
Member
Add Spiderman in OctoberAlso, fucking Armored Core VI between BG3 and Starfield, already preordered both
August & September is way too fucking packed!
Sentenza
Member
I've been playing that Early Access on and off for the past 3 years, so I can't freaking wait.
It's not a game without its fair share of puzzling design decisions (starting with the horrible "chain controls" typical of previous Larian titles) but if people think this will be an "uncertain quantity" in terms of being good they are in for a fucking surprise, because it's more than just good.
It's genuinely outstanding in several areas.
"It's just DOS 3, except built over a completely different ruleset, class system, itemization type and aesthetic" is a retarded take, by the way.
It's not a game without its fair share of puzzling design decisions (starting with the horrible "chain controls" typical of previous Larian titles) but if people think this will be an "uncertain quantity" in terms of being good they are in for a fucking surprise, because it's more than just good.
It's genuinely outstanding in several areas.
"It's just DOS 3, except built over a completely different ruleset, class system, itemization type and aesthetic" is a retarded take, by the way.
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genesisblock
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I have BG 1 & 2 at my backlog. Should I play those first?
Sentenza
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Well, you "should" because they are outstanding games (especially the second, one of the all-timers), but they are barely related to this one, which takes place more than a century later, so not a prerequisite by any mean.
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Fools idol
Banned
If I was only to play 3 cRPG's for the rest of my life Baldurs gate 2, Divinity original sin 2 and Arcanum would be the three, so in short...
poodaddy
Member
Then count me out. I actually think this game seems great, and I definitely wanna try it one day, but these games are getting too damn big now and I don't have the time to play them unfortunately. Still on Tears of the Kingdom, (and to be honest I can't believe any of you have had the time to complete it, I think it's the biggest game I've ever played for sure), and of course Starfield's coming up and I know that game will suck my life away more than I'm willing to admit, so I can't realistically make room for anything else that big in the coming year.
Good for those who are pumped about it though.
Good for those who are pumped about it though.
Guilty_AI
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You can solve that by forsaking sleep and social life.
poodaddy
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If I was fifteen years younger I'd give it a shot.
Guilty_AI
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If you start the game 72 hours before release, the save will be kept (though you still won't be able to go beyond act 1 during that time)
Lunarorbit
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I've been tempted by divinity original sin 2 for a while now. Jason and kirk loved it when it came out years ago when they reviewed it on triple click.
I'm not sure if I have the patience to play 100 hours of baldurs gate but I dig the shadow run games and wasteland 3 so when these are deep discounted I'll get em
I'm not sure if I have the patience to play 100 hours of baldurs gate but I dig the shadow run games and wasteland 3 so when these are deep discounted I'll get em
struggler_guts
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Oh sick! So essentially I can start playing the 1st!!!
StereoVsn
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Considering everything but Act 1 and fairly low levels haven't been playtested by Early Access Users, chances are BG3 will need some patching as well. It's a big RPG.
I recommend not pre-ordering any of these and just waiting for reviews and impressions of actually released game.
Fools idol
Banned
I was reading over the latest details given by Larian and it seems the level cap has been changed from 10 to 12 for the end release of the game... which has me wondering...
in the early access you can reach level 5 very quickly considering the supposed lenght of the game being 75+ hours for average playthrough. Does that mean we are going to be hitting max level by like half way through the game? seems a little odd. Maybe (I hope) they increased the level progression in the early access to show how things work more of a rough 'take a look' deal. Also from memory the D&D ruleset it is using has a max level of 20, no?
in the early access you can reach level 5 very quickly considering the supposed lenght of the game being 75+ hours for average playthrough. Does that mean we are going to be hitting max level by like half way through the game? seems a little odd. Maybe (I hope) they increased the level progression in the early access to show how things work more of a rough 'take a look' deal. Also from memory the D&D ruleset it is using has a max level of 20, no?
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Guilty_AI
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Levels get increasingly more difficult to get as you level up (DOS2 was like that too). You'll likely be taking much much longer to go from 5 to 10.
As for D&D ruleset, from my knowledge level cap varies from session to session. Some DMs may cap the levels to lower values, since apparently getting to 20 more or less already turns your character into some demigod-like entity in terms of power.
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Doom85
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Irobot82
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I have the game in Early Access as well. I love it. I already have 60 hours in it. But I'd have to disagree. To me it's Divinity in D&D ruleset for a few reasons.
No RTCwP ( I wish they'd pull a POEII or Owlcat and do both)
4 man team. Severely limits your optimal team. Being so limited lends itself to the standard Fighter/Thief/Mage/Cleric trope. BG1 had 6 and BG2 had 6 or was it 5?
The third person narration is very Larian and less BG.
That aside, I still love it. I honestly feel like they are tagging off the BG name and should have used their own D&D name.
diffusionx
Gold Member
if you like wasteland 3 you will like original sin 2
it's on sale now on steam so it's the time.
Guilty_AI
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Originally the game was going to have a 1st person narrator, with each origin character and custom VA delivering the lines. But then they changed that cause apparently the fans weren't digging it. I heard some of the lines as well and personally prefer the narrator they went with in the end, felt a bit awkward at times imo.
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Irobot82
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Oh, I don't mind the internal narration, I rather enjoy it from a gameplay experience. I only mean to say, it is a departure from BG in my mind and more of a Larian schtick.
BG1, BG2, IWD1, IWD2, and Planescape: Torment all had a party size of 6. I agree that it allowed for more interesting party compositions and even for bringing along characters who might not be that viable in combat for story/personality reasons.
Guilty_AI
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Fortunately DOS2 had a mod that allowed you to increase the number of party members
Steam Workshop::Party Size Evolved
I think its very likely they'll make one for this game too. I imagine it may cause some balancing issues, but nothing a higher difficulty won't solve.
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Irobot82
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I hope sooner than later.Fortunately DOS2 had a mod that allowed you to increase the number of party members
Steam Workshop::Party Size Evolved
steamcommunity.com
I think its very likely they'll make one for this game too. I imagine it may cause some balancing issues, but nothing a higher difficulty won't solve.
I find myself having trouble determining my starting class. I like Lae'zel so I don't want to be a martial class. I like Gale and Shadowheart, so healer/mage type roles are out. That's 3 out of 4 slots covered. I'm less interested in Wyll and Astarion. So I guess my starting class will likely be a damage dealer or hybrid. It's so sadly limiting. I also assume these aren't the only companions, so you'll be missing out on so much due to having such a small party size.
We also have Minsc and most likely Halsin. Maybe Jaheira.
This is less frustrating in Solasta because the characters are empty shells you play instead of characters with rich stories.
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Guilty_AI
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all i know is demon mommy is coming to my party
Elginer
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Arcanum. Now that’s a name I haven’t heard in a long time. Damn game was a gem!If I was only to play 3 cRPG's for the rest of my life Baldurs gate 2, Divinity original sin 2 and Arcanum would be the three, so in short...
Fools idol
Banned
haha indeed.
The whole is nostalgic as hell, I replayed if over the Christmas holidays and enjoyed every second. The systems and UI are extremely dated mind, so be aware of that if you do revisit, if was a struggle at times.
it shocks me that there hasn't been a revisit / reboot / sequel but then I realised the IP is owned by none other than fucking Bobby Kotick and his goons at Activision, so it probably will never see the light of day again.
Slicker than your average
Banned
I can never get it to work properly. Even with the latest update. If you alt tabb just once the game becomes unplayable
TheKremlinBossMan
Banned
Drow way of the shadow monk multiclass assassin lets go.
Guilty_AI
Member
nop, hasn't gone on sale even once
Guilty_AI
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They actually made a fully 3rd person rpg once
Not well received by critics at the time, but many consider it a hidden gem nowadays.
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Fools idol
Banned
yeah it runs like shit even with the fan-made patches. You can run it in compatibility mode and windowed mode and that fixes many issues but end of the day it's a 25 year old game
gaming_again
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The game genres I love are not made for people with my lifestyle anymore. Sad.
Guilty_AI
Member
You mean, like, right now?And here I'm waiting for the summer sale to buy Divinity original sin 2. So I'll buy bg3 in a year or two, maybe even more. It depends on the price drop