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leaked Insomniac inclusivity training video

Gamer79

Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
Did they not look to Gears of Wars' "Cole Train" for guidance on how to write nuanced African American characters?
What's wrong Baby?

Give ole Cole Train some of that delicious chicken and watermelon!
 

Corian33

Member
I’m kind of shocked by how much these people think in terms of labels and categories. Like “This person MUST act X way because he is from Y neighborhood or it isn’t authentic.”

I have a young daughter, when we play games there have been multiple times when she’s said something like “I want to play that character, she looks like me!” And she gets very excited about it. I totally understand why representation is important and that having 90% white male characters for the first few decades of gaming needed to change. However, this sort of thing that the race/sex/whatever of a character needs to define them and be pointed out explicitly is so weird to me. Can’t they just be what they are and get on with the game (assuming that isn’t an important part of the story).
 

Kaleinc

Banned
Why do you need to be represented? Get the fuck back to your cool people in Korea, 100% representation.
But somehow you were desperate to leave for terrible Europe or US. Be happy they let you in at all
 

Senua

Gold Member
Why do you need to be represented? Get the fuck back to your cool people in Korea, 100% representation.
But somehow you were desperate to leave for terrible Europe or US. Be happy they let you in at all
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TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Yup, LEV was def there to pander Transgender ideology full stop. I mean Druckmann worked with Anita Sakizian and gave her an award and her speech was about how all games should be inclusive etc. This woke garbage didn't start with SM2 lol.

Saying that TLOU2 had these characters just because they "fit into the story" is just plain ignorant when there's evidence against that notion already exist in the open. No leak is needed here lol.
Either way here's a fun YT vid with Anita and Duckmann praising eachother :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Anita Sakazian had her claws in him literally 2 Months after TLOU released, she of course had criticism of it, especially with Joel & Ellie dynamic, and especially Tess
He even said there was things he would have done differently in TLOU if he knew what he knows now
And he presented the reward to her a week before "Left Behind" DLC dropped.
 

rnlval

Member

I'm a man with a mixed Spanish-East Asian background and I dislike certain DEI implementations. Woke's minority argument is flawed when national borders are removed. Progressives are not consistent with national borders.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
I'm a man with a mixed Spanish-East Asian background and I dislike certain DEI implementations. Woke's minority argument is flawed when national borders are removed. Progressives are not consistent with national borders.
Insomniac cant even get their Asian DEI representation right. They used all Koreans, which doesn't even make sense since not only does the world have tons of Asians, but even if they solely focued on the US Asian racial split, US census polls show this (I copied only the top Asian backgrounds, but the Wiki chart on the right margin has tons more).

Their DEI crusade didn't even include Indian, Chinese, Filipino or Vietnamese which are all more than the US Korean population.

I guess Insomniac and their DEI experts think Koreans represent all Indian and East Asians.

Figure that one out.


Total population
Increase
24,009,902 (alone and in combination)
7.2% of the population (2020)[1]
Chinese Americans: 5,143,982
Indian Americans: 4,506,308
Filipino Americans: 4,089,570
Vietnamese Americans: 2,162,610
Korean Americans: 1,894,131
Japanese Americans: 1,542,195
Taiwanese Americans: 900,595[2]

Even if Insomniac claimed they can only use California Asian populations as their best feedback, since their head office is in Beverly Hills here's the Cali Asian splits. Koreans arent even close to the top Asian background to pick either.


Demographics[edit]​


Ancestry by origin[14]Number%
China Chinese1,513,688
Philippines Filipino1,281,691
Vietnam Vietnamese858,043
India Indian677,507
Korea Korean470,978
Japan Japanese264,054
Cambodia Cambodian92,953
Taiwan Taiwanese86,674
Pakistan Pakistani67,044
Laos Laotian56,678
Thailand Thai50,885
Indonesia Indonesian28,980
Myanmar Burmese15,899
Nepal Nepalese14,040
Bangladesh Bangladeshi11,491
Sri Lanka Sri Lankan10,965
Mongolia Mongolian6,244
Malaysia Malaysian3,479
Bhutan Bhutanese301
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
That’s less cringeworthy. But who is asking video game developers about national policies?
Who is asking? Video game employees.

The same employees who are loud on Twitter and mix their home life politics with work. I must be out of the loop because I thought the typical worker wants to keep home and work separate so people dont feel pressured to always be juggling work outside of office hours, or hate bringing their personal life to work.

But just another example of a video game studio comprised of mostly coders and artsy visual effect designers thinking they are god's gift to fatherly and political advice to the masses.

Who knew tech industry workers were so much smarter than the rest of us.

Maybe when the holidays are over and I'm back to work, I'll ask the CEO if we should do Twitter videos on Canadian immigration or tariff policies.

The dumbest thing about the video is the message about immigration, since almost the entire Insomniac work force are white guys. Dont get mislead with the handful of female minorities in the front. Look past row 1 and it's like 90% white dudes.
 
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StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
White women. Always offended on someone elses behalf.
Nothing better than a bunch of young college grads with an arts degree thinking they are smarter than everyone else. Who knew getting a history or sociology degree were the equivalent of being a Mensa member.

I dont think even the stereotypical pushy dickish lawyer is this bad when it comes to thinking they are always right.
 
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mrabott

Member
and people still say that it isnt forced but implemented naturally , when you need to focus on it its forced
I think it's obvious that it's forced. If it weren't games still be starred by muscular, white, straight, bald men.

The problem is not diversity, the inclusion of minorities, the problem is shit scripts that use these qualities as tokens of a good company that cares about minorities.
 

hyperbertha

Member
What fucking rules lmao
Some people say just cause a story has dragons, it isn't trying to be realistic and anything goes. For example with ff16 a lot of morons tried to argue it doesn't need realistic representation( only white people in a mediaeval state) just bcos it had magic and wasn't believable anyway. That's dumb logic. A universe can have unrealistic elements and still be grounded in reality or have common sense.
 

Bernardougf

Gold Member
Some people say just cause a story has dragons, it isn't trying to be realistic and anything goes. For example with ff16 a lot of morons tried to argue it doesn't need realistic representation( only white people in a mediaeval state) just bcos it had magic and wasn't believable anyway. That's dumb logic. A universe can have unrealistic elements and still be grounded in reality or have common sense.
Try putting a white black panther ruller in wakanda and see this "this is fantasy" crowd go bat shit crazy suicide watch mode...
 

Nickolaidas

Member
Dont get mislead with the handful of female minorities in the front. Look past row 1 and it's like 90% white dudes.
Agreed. The majority of time it's white people either suffering from white guilt, or afraid or the next Schimer article which will call them out on their whiteness so they're desperate to look like allies.

What they don't know is that the people they claim to worship will burn them alive at the first chance they get and replace them with diversity hires. From the second they were white males and pledged allegiance to the radical Left, their fate was sealed.

It's just a matter of 'when' now.
 

Fredrik

Member
The irony is that they would accuse others of sexism, racism, phobia and every other authoritarian adage of manipulative control for saying and doing exactly what they do. If you're nor in the ideology club.
Absolutely but you’ll be lynched if you talk about that. GAF is highly unique tbh. I’ve been at other places where it’s impossible to have a normal conversation, where I’ve received so many warnings for so minor reasons where people were trying to trick you into witchhunt traps to remove you from the board to then celebrate it. Inclusivity should go both ways. Can’t expect everyone on the planet from every culture and with every upbringing to be the same or erase them if they rather stay the way they are.
 

Scotty W

Member
Why do you need to be represented? Get the fuck back to your cool people in Korea, 100% representation.
But somehow you were desperate to leave for terrible Europe or US. Be happy they let you in at all
They don’t need to be represented. This is not a natural need.

The need comes from activists to put people on identity categories who they convince are victims. These people are political vampires.
 

PeteBull

Member
GTA6 trailer was even worse
GTA6 trailer was fine, its miami, tons of ppl of different races than white there.
Enough to see how well trailer got received, if it really was woke u can bet it would get tons of negative reception, and hell it was even criticized by woke media ;)

I know this and im from fricken poland/eastern europe, here 99,9% ppl are white btw, in my smalltown last few years only non white ppl i saw was 3 french tourists durning summer wanting to make photos, one of our doctors who is from somalia/etiopa(hard to say, but he looks like those maraton runner olimpians, aka black as a granite, short af and maybe 40kg/100lbs of weight, if not less)+ i think his daughter who is mixed and goes to primary school near my house, like 2minutes away, so i sometimes see her going there/from there, with other kids.

Will gta6 be woke- no clue, no1 knows except devs, we can only judge it by its trailer or/and those leaks from before, 0 wokeness in there so far.

Compare it to actual woke trailer/game, aka saints row reboot where main cast looks just like from that diversity vid in the first post, super unlikeable, u actually wanted to play as "badguys" in that trailer instead lol every1 knew this shit gonna be terrible, devs tried to dmg control and yell at series fans, and results was as predicted- low quality game, terrible sales and studio clousure :p
 

Flutta

Banned
It's mostly the women championing this shit bro, in every office they work.
You got it all wrong, pause for a second and think. These women are not calling the shots in any of these companies. Who do you think hired these women? Who owns these studios? Who’s calling the shots?

Feminist males that’s who.
 
Will gta6 be woke- no clue, no1 knows except devs, we can only judge it by its trailer or/and those leaks from before, 0 wokeness in there so far.
I'd be shocked if it wasn't. The people who love jamming that shit in everything they touch aren't going to miss the most anticipated game of last 10+ years.
 

PeteBull

Member
I'd be shocked if it wasn't. The people who love jamming that shit in everything they touch aren't going to miss the most anticipated game of last 10+ years.
Our only hope is- gta6 needs to make tons of cash to make decent profit from its supposedly 2bil usd budget, hopefully ppl at the top in rockstar are fully aware game has to have high quality, and the crowd who plays gta6 arent feminazis and their male lapdogs who's main lifepurpose is to get outraged on twitter and overall across the net.

Game has to sell to the crowd that previous parts in the series sold to- aka it has to be good, instead of woke , if it sells even 50% less vs gta5's 190m copies- thats huge mountain of cash down the drain, and it will definitely hurt rockstart a lot :p
 
Some people say just cause a story has dragons, it isn't trying to be realistic and anything goes. For example with ff16 a lot of morons tried to argue it doesn't need realistic representation( only white people in a mediaeval state) just bcos it had magic and wasn't believable anyway. That's dumb logic. A universe can have unrealistic elements and still be grounded in reality or have common sense.

You lot cry about it because it triggers you. Not because certain "rules" aren't followed. You handwave liberties Devs take when it suits you then cry wolf the moment they don't.
 
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