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leaked Insomniac inclusivity training video

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
Most of these companies that implement this type of stuff are not genuine and don't actually care, they just want to have a positive image by pandering to people. Also, assuming its true that they took out the homosexual references and things in the Middle Eastern copies of the game, that further proves they're just tools.
Yup. Money talks. Companies will do anything to sell extra units.

Nobody should ever follow what a company PRs. Instead, follow their business strategies..... assuming you know what they do because nobody outside the Middle East would know they edited LBGT parts to satisfy the government unless gamers there compared their version to the rest of the world.

So for all the California Insomniac employees making a game with supportive content about LBGT, notice how they adjusted the game and all shut their mouths about it.


 
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stn

Member
When I see shit like this fake inclusivity garbage, I'm so glad I work where I work. We employ all people regardless of where they're from or what color their skin is. And everyone gets the same opportunity to do good work, make good money, and even get a piece of the business. We don't do fake training garbage. Instead, we just treat all of our people with respect and dignity and don't even think about where they're from, what their sexual preferences are, and all the other stuff. I'm all for inclusivity but this forced training and other stuff coming from these companies is obviously fake and not coming from a genuine place.
 
Nope.

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Ridiculous he got banned for this. He's right.

Most people I've talked with equity is just another way of saying equality of opportunity.
 
"Not really equity"

Is just like, "not real communism"

It sounds nice in theory, but it's never acted out that way in practice.

I shared what it really is in reality, way early in this thread.
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Sure but you have crazies who bastardise things all the time. That doesn't mean you don't strive to remove barriers where possible.

I don't get the issue here. Is it just the word?
 
The crazies are running the show. Hence this thread.

Lol fair enough. But on the ground level every discussion I've had where someone brings up equity they literally just mean add a slope to help people in a wheelchair.

But I guess it doesn't help when the most prolific people talking are the extremists
 
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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Lol fair enough. But on the ground level every discussion I've had where someone brings up equity they literally just mean add a slope to help people in a wheelchair.

But I guess it doesn't help when the most prolific people talking are the extremists
That's the rub, most shouting it and pushing it, are the same that are "eat the rich" and the "white 'CIS' power + privilege" tripe. The "take from this to give to that."

Those in complete control aren't going to sacrifice anything themselves, it's you that has to. There's only enough resources to go around in reality before you need to take.
 

Woggleman

Member
"Not real equity"

Is just like, "not real communism"

It sounds nice in theory, but it's never acted out that way in practice.

I shared what it really is in reality, way early in this thread.
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There is some truth to this because in the eyes of many woke types it is not good enough to pull up oppressed classes but we must also turn the tables on oppressors because it is their turn to feel it. There whole world view is oppressed vs oppressor classes and the latter are the born enemy.
 

stn

Member
ROFL, they were so focused on "training" people that they couldn't even get the colors of the Puerto Rican flag correctly in the game, and had to patch a fix. The more I read about this, the more I know it is fake.
 

Phase

Member
You got it all wrong, pause for a second and think. These women are not calling the shots in any of these companies. Who do you think hired these women? Who owns these studios? Who’s calling the shots?

Feminist males that’s who.
Who hires people? HR. Who is about 95% of HR? Women.
 

Nickolaidas

Member
There is some truth to this because in the eyes of many woke types it is not good enough to pull up oppressed classes but we must also turn the tables on oppressors because it is their turn to feel it. There whole world view is oppressed vs oppressor classes and the latter are the born enemy.
Exactly. It's not about equality, it's about revenge. And what's worse, revenge for things they weren't born when they happened.
 
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They've also convinced lazy uninspired people that they're victims for being lazy and uninspired. So it's easier to take than to earn.
This might be farfetched, but I think another issue is that when you deal with such people, for example game developers, they tend to be socially awkward or not strong at social dynamics. They don't pick up on social cues like some do. In barges confident Anita & the gang through the door beating them over the head over and over again they have all always been sexist, racist, misogynistic, what have you and demand they must change. Being who they are, most just accept it by default without much hesitation. Obviously you do not want to be associated with such groups. The back then presidential election was also brewing which probably laid further grounds for easier persuasion.

Of course, I'm laying out a large generalization and over-simplification, but you get the gist. Its just an anecdotal observation I've made being around these folks.
 
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Woggleman

Member
The thing with those like Anita and her ilk is that people went one extreme or the other. Either they bent the knee or they sent rape threats and doxed her which made the mainstream view her as a victim. If they would have just respectfully stood up and said we are making the games we want to make things could have been different.
 

hyperbertha

Member
The thing with those like Anita and her ilk is that people went one extreme or the other. Either they bent the knee or they sent rape threats and doxed her which made the mainstream view her as a victim. If they would have just respectfully stood up and said we are making the games we want to make things could have been different.
I am sure there were plenty of respectful opposition but social media will only pick up the extremes.
 

Faust

Perpetually Tired
Staff Member
The thing with those like Anita and her ilk is that people went one extreme or the other. Either they bent the knee or they sent rape threats and doxed her which made the mainstream view her as a victim. If they would have just respectfully stood up and said we are making the games we want to make things could have been different.

The vast majority of comments were moderate and properly criticized her. The internet being the internet, and gaming Journalists having zero integrity, only ever highlighted the most extreme posts that were in the minority made.
 

nkarafo

Member
Try putting a white black panther ruller in wakanda and see this "this is fantasy" crowd go bat shit crazy suicide watch mode...

You don't have to. This already happened a few years ago with the Ghost in the Shell movie. Remember how they got bat-shit crazy because Scarlett Johansson was used for the role, instead of a Japanese actress or something?

Plus, it's not that "this is fantasy" vs "real world" matters. See all the recent race/gender swaps of real, historic figures.

The hypocrisy and "it's OK when we do it" double standards here are so given that it's not even worth mentioning anymore. I just roll my eyes and continue with my day.
 

Woggleman

Member
You don't have to. This already happened a few years ago with the Ghost in the Shell movie. Remember how they got bat-shit crazy because Scarlett Johansson was used for the role, instead of a Japanese actress or something?

Plus, it's not that "this is fantasy" vs "real world" matters. See all the recent race/gender swaps of real, historic figures.

The hypocrisy and "it's OK when we do it" double standards here are so given that it's not even worth mentioning anymore. I just roll my eyes and continue with my day.
The ironic thing is that the movie was actually pretty popular in Japan.
 
Can't be that bad..
Yes it is. I respect everybody and don't care who you sleep with or if you want your dick removed, let alone what your skin color is. I'm halve black myself. But I absolutely hate having woke shit shoved down my throat especially since it is done in the most unnatural and forced way possible. These people are going to far with their agenda and can go fuck themselves.
 
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Lol fair enough. But on the ground level every discussion I've had where someone brings up equity they literally just mean add a slope to help people in a wheelchair.

But I guess it doesn't help when the most prolific people talking are the extremists
And who made it so every business and public space in America had to be wheelchair accessible? A republican president. I only mention that because people need to step away from the us vs them lie that only liberals care about doing the right thing, or helping people who are disadvantaged. People are just divided when it comes to what the right thing is.

To talk opportunity vs outcome for a moment, a ramp for a wheelchair represents both. The end goal of being able to reach the sidewalk is an equal outcome, but not having any ramp there means there's no equal opportunity. So that's equality, not equity.

The boxes are different because those are resources, and we're talking about taking from one group to provide for another. But the example of the boxes is overly simplified, and leaves a lot of questions unanswered. Who provided the boxes? Was it the stadium? Was it the government? Was it the tall man? If so, does he own all the boxes? Will the boxes be returned to him after the game in case he needs more boxes for a different situation?

Are people of all races able to get into your college? That's equality. Are you bothered by the fact that there are too many of one race and not enough of another according to the surrounding population, so you make it so one group needs to have very high test scores, and another group needs to have much lower test scores, depending on their race? That is equity.

And that sounds nice, until you've found that you've literally been discriminated against because of your race and won't be getting into the school you wanted, because resources are always limited. But in true "that wasn't real socialism" fashion, the people making these rules won't ever have to worry about their kids not getting in, because those will be legacy admissions. Real equity doesn't exist. It's a socialist utopia that can never be due to human nature. The people making the rules will always have more power and give themselves more resources.
 
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CGNoire

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There is some truth to this because in the eyes of many woke types it is not good enough to pull up oppressed classes but we must also turn the tables on oppressors because it is their turn to feel it. There whole world view is oppressed vs oppressor classes and the latter are the born enemy.
Thats cause its not about Justice its mostly about Revenge.
 
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