Thus we discover the source of the Skullgirls curse.
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Thus we discover the source of the Skullgirls curse.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
The persecution complex is real over there.
Osu 16 Bit
Member
The issue with SCR on TYM is that Injustice has a 64 player cap when it's consistently had bigger turnouts at majors lately. They have a strong following at WNF and the rest of the WC and a lot of people will be traveling. It would seem a 128 player cap would make more sense. Personally I like almost any steps to encourage pre registration and Valle has always been good to the MK community. I wonder if they'd raise the cap to 128 if early preregistration is high. That would be fine.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Pretty sure they said they would raise the caps if there was enough overflow
I know Injustice had a pretty high player count at NEC. Somewhere over the in the 80s right
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Slamtastic
Member
They already said caps would be adjusted if they were hit early enough, which is why I considered the TYM thread to be overreacting.
Whether or not I agree that they are underestimating Injustice numbers or overestimating KoF numbers doesn't matter when the caps aren't hard limits, especially so early on. Just tell everyone to register and register early.
Whether or not I agree that they are underestimating Injustice numbers or overestimating KoF numbers doesn't matter when the caps aren't hard limits, especially so early on. Just tell everyone to register and register early.
I'm confused. Are you saying that the game's art style, which has obvious anime influences but is still very much western, no longer makes it an American made fighting game? Or is it because of the way the game plays?
Osu 16 Bit
Member
80+ just prereg yeah.
To be fair EC nrs always has the most entrants so I don't think SCR will actually reach 128 but it should pass 64
Agree with this. Actions speak louder than words and hope injustice community surpass that cap in pre-registrations so fast that the flash would be in awe.
toddhunter
Member
SCR has that Capcom tax:
Slamtastic
Member
Player-base. Otherwise, Skullgirls would've been the first Anime/US hybrid game. A game like skullgirls has the same attraction face value as an anime game would
Fuck I'd call it a Doujin fighter like Melty at this point. It's certainly well recieved in the Doujin fighting game dev community (Specifically the UNiB devs)
toddhunter
Member
The first?
I don't see how a game with a naked cat-girl and Captain America doesn't win that title.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Air Dashes, Combos, and fluid gameplay?
What about the "player-base" makes it anime? Fuck Injustice is super borderline Anime seeing how it jacked shit from BlazBlue. Too bad it's stuck NRS clunky mindset of game design
You forget people still don't understand that the Vs series of games are "anime" games
Ragingnight
Member
Injustice fell pretty hard. That EVO injustice finals really sucked the energy out of injustice. That plus the patches made injustice turnout drop hard.
BB:CP did pretty well at NEC. I wonder if it will continue or be like persona where it had huge spikes then huge drop offs.
BB:CP did pretty well at NEC. I wonder if it will continue or be like persona where it had huge spikes then huge drop offs.
A lot of my friends, who are primarily anime fighting game players, are really into skullgirls. Just going by personal experience
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Karsticles
Member
You have to pander to the mainstream members of this niche genre.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
That's because the game plays similar to them in match flow and it's well made of course they are going to play it.
Ah, okay, I think I see what you guys are talking about now. Maybe. Seems more than a bit unfair to the devs to call it a non-american game though.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Uh no duh of course it is. It's the founding game of "Anime".
The Vs series is based off it, and Arc sys straight up said their games are inspired by it.
Karsticles
Member
The best way to know Skullgirls is a western game is that it gets developer support. Regular balance patches and new content? That is not Japan, sir.
Slamtastic
Member
i'm just saying that TYM is the competitive discussion hub for 3 out of the 4 competition worthy American made fighting games and Skullgirls is the outlier
maybe when there's more US fighting games made and not popular on TYM, i'll just call them the fatality forum
The dark secret of fighting games is that it's all anime/manga. Street Fighter's core existence is anime/manga. Super exaggerated moves with names said as they are performed? Anime. Traveling warrior who thinks of nothing but the fight? Give Ryu a tail and he'd be Goku.Haha touché and good memory. But when I meant anime I meant more overly anime designs, something more along the lines of this:
A lot of street fighter artwork is good because it blends really tasteful Japanese art with a dash of anime flavor.
Styles diverge because it wasn't all the same to begin with.
Theoretically this is a great idea, but if the event becomes so large that I cannot manage it to my standard, the result wont be to my liking even if I get rich.
SolarPowered
Member
Did you just ask this
The best way to know Skullgirls is "western" is to be a 90s kid from the US, but your way works too.
Slamtastic
Member
so are mortal kombat/injustice/killer instinct/avatar the last air bender anime
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Mortal Kombat = cheesy american lowbudget kungfu movies
Injustice/Killer instinct = American comic influence
Avatar = American with anime inspiration
Osu 16 Bit
Member
Except this isn't the case. The October patch helped tremendously. The Black Adam/Superman era is over. Character variety is at an all time high. NEC had a good turnout and was probably the best IGAU tournament yet. Here in Chicago our weekly consistently has 16 entrants and the top 4 players use Bane, Catwoman, Hawkgirl and Scorpion. IGAU is awesome now. This is only true if we're judging the life of a game based on Next Level.
Karsticles
Member
You looked crazy stressed when you were there. I was surprised you played.
Disagree. I think injustice is still strong especially coming off NEC finals
Edit: beaten by 16 bit on NEC
I see what you did there and I don't like it.
Most of the stress was coming from people acting awful, not from the event itself. Usually I'm calm as can be during those things.
Clearly, Valle's big mistake was announcing that caps exist at all (because again, they don't effect the players and will automatically go up if they are reached during pre reg). Even if you present all the information clearly, people still wont read it. I've made mistakes like these many many times. My registration page is super super clear about when things start and that preferential pool placement doesn't happen, but people still skip reading it and ask every year.
Pretty much.
Ah, my mistake. I didn't pay enough attention to the context of your post. My bad!
Karsticles
Member
This is the universal standard. Silky is off.
I don't know where the its an anime game because of the art style came from.
So MVC2 is anime?
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Yup, hell you could even say it's FULL anime in MvC3's case. MvC2 is a bit closer to GG levels but still past it.
GG is middle ground between SF/KoF and the Vs series of games as far as things go.
DryEyeRelief
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New people getting super defensive about people calling Marvel an anime game.
MvC2 is on the edge of that definition. MvC3 is definitely an anime fighting game.
Oh yeah, "doujin" means self-published, largely by amateurs but not exclusively. Melty Blood started as a doujin game but followed a more traditional commercial model since the second release.
That's the more meaningful classification, but what's the fun there?
Karsticles
Member
I think the term is kind of dumb. Up there with vagina tax as something that should go away.
