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[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

 

[Cert.in.Death]

Oh yeah, I’m feeling it!

#TeamZack

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I haven't even played the demo yet. Helldivers 2 is life!

 

[Mr Moose]

Was the issue only with that mode?

 

[mortal]

Cool. Putting out the demos was the right call.

 

[rickybooby87]

Glad that they are listening to fan feedback! What are we complaining about next boys?

 

[Physiognomonics]

Was the issue only with that mode?

Too soft (not caused by resolution). Post process effects are too strong. Could be improved (at the cost of a bit more aliasing).

 

[StereoVsn]

Was the issue only with that mode?

Nope. There were image quality and image streaming issues in both modes. Hopefully whatever improvements they make will help both.

Also, hopefully by the time PC releases the game will be a bit more patched up, but not holding my breath. SE record on OC releases has been generally pretty terrible for larger titles.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Nice for those unaware, both the performance and quality modes run at quite respectable resolutions and achieve stable framerates.

Analysis - (VG Tech) Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth PS5 Frame Rate Comparison (Demo)

The version tested was 1.000.000. PS5 in Performance Mode uses a dynamic resolution with the highest resolution found being approximately 2720x1530 and the lowest resolution found being 1920x1080. Pixel counts at or near 2720x1530 seem to be uncommon on PS5 in Performance Mode. PS5 in Graphics...

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It seems somewhere between 1080-1530p for performance mode at 60fps and 1620-2160p for quality mode at 30fps. FFXVI meanwhile I think was 720-1080p for the 60fps performance mode and around 1440p for the 30fps quality mode.

DF speculate its the post processing or something along those lines that's causing the IQ to not be as clean as it should and so perhaps they've found a solution or the 1st demo was an old build.

 

[Arsic]

Could sway me towards day one again if impressions, reviews, and performance is good.

My gut feeling is this will have the same issues part 1 suffered with, but I want to be wrong.

 

[AJUMP23]

Is this game going to cause your PS5 to overheat?

 

[LordCBH]

40fps mode please.

 

[proandrad]

Even the high resolution mode is kinda strange some low res textures. The game seems to be pushing unreal engine 4 to its limit. Game sorta looks like an unreal engine fan mode of what a ff7 remake could look like on unreal. Wish they would have just dumb that trash engine and used the FF16 engine.

 

[Fake]

Glad they are listening the feedback.

 

[Fake]

Was the issue only with that mode?

Both I guess. Digital Foundry speak about this.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Nice!!

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

40fps mode please.

Would be dope as I love these 40 fps options whenever they're available, but I'm not really having this type of expectation from Square. I would just like if they provide 1) decent image quality in perf mode; 2) add a motion blur toggle for those of us who like having this feature (helps a fair bit when playing 30 fps games on oled tvs).

EDIT: I've updated the OP as they put out a tweet in English, too.

 

[LordCBH]

Would be dope as I love these 40 fps options whenever they're available, but I'm not really having this type of expectation from Square. I would just like if they provide 1) decent image quality in perf mode; 2) add a motion blur toggle for those of us who like having this features (helps a fair bit when playing 30 fps games on oled tvs).

EDIT: I've updated the OP as they put out a tweet in English, too.

I will say the 30fps mode in the demo felt more responsive than I was expecting. I’m so used to them feeling really sluggish these days, but it felt fine in this one. I’d say slightly better than in 7 Remake. But I’d love a 40fps option

 

[ByWatterson]

40 fps + VRR plox

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I will say the 30fps mode in the demo felt more responsive than I was expecting. I’m so used to them feeling really sluggish these days, but it felt fine in this one. I’d say slightly better than in 7 Remake. But I’d love a 40fps option

Was one of the first things I've noticed after booting up the demo; pleasantly surprised there.

 

[LordCBH]

Was one of the first things I've noticed after booting up the demo; pleasantly surprised there.

I would say high frame rate modes and playing high frame rates on pc ruined me, but I don’t think so. I go back to older games on PS3/360/PS2 and they feel fine. Just for whatever reason a lot of new games just feel really bad with responsiveness in 30fps modes. I think Hogwarts Legacy last year was one of the worst.

 

[saintjules]

Would be dope as I love these 40 fps options whenever they're available, but I'm not really having this type of expectation from Square. I would just like if they provide 1) decent image quality in perf mode; 2) add a motion blur toggle for those of us who like having this feature (helps a fair bit when playing 30 fps games on oled tvs).

Agreed. I'm just thankful that we're getting a good stream of 60fps games and performance modes as options.

40fps is cool, but why don't we make 60 a bit more of the norm first?

 

[wvnative]

Disappointed it's only performance mode, I think graphics mode also looks a bit shit.

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I would say high frame rate modes and playing high frame rates on pc ruined me, but I don’t think so. I go back to older games on PS3/360/PS2 and they feel fine. Just for whatever reason a lot of new games just feel really bad with responsiveness in 30fps modes. I think Hogwarts Legacy last year was one of the worst.

Funnily enough some years back during the start of the pandemic, I was joggling between Destiny 1 which ran at 30 fps and Destiny 2 which I was playing on PC on a 144hz monitor with VRR. The first jump between them felt jarring, but I started getting used to switching between them faster and faster, and probably one the main reasons was the very low response time Destiny 1 has, which helped tons when playing at a low frame rate.

 

[TrebleShot]

GOOD

 

[Nankatsu]

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

Rebirth Director Naoki Hamaguchi

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

I will say the 30fps mode in the demo felt more responsive than I was expecting. I’m so used to them feeling really sluggish these days, but it felt fine in this one. I’d say slightly better than in 7 Remake. But I’d love a 40fps option

40fps would be lovely.

 

[Fabieter]

People told me they wouldn't improve upon release.

 

[Fbh]

That's great.
I was hoping they'd address the issue by the time the game was launching, but didn't expect them to update the demo to check out the improvement.
Hopefully it's decent now so I can pick up the game at launch.

Is this game going to cause your PS5 to overheat?

There's plenty of games with equal or better visuals and better performance on Ps5. So it shouldn't.
Also from what DF said the performance mode was always running at 1440p but their post processing was causing extreme blur, so it's likely they can improve that without really needing more "power" (similarly to how the performance mode in Forbidden west got a considerable upgrade after launch)

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

People told me they wouldn't improve upon release.

In this case I thought a patch was coming as it seems to be a post processing issue which is probably an easier fix.

I'm expecting a marginal improvement only but something that will be noticeable.

 

[Senua]

Still abysmal textures?

 

[Zathalus]

They also promised improvements to the FF16 performance mode, which resulted in a net gain of 1fps. Not saying they can't make big improvements, just temper your expectations.

 

[Mister Wolf]

Needs a 40fps mode.

 

[vkbest]

Sure Square, like the promised framerate fix in FF XVI

 

[SABRE220]

The issues unfortunately are much deeper than just resolution or image clarity, the assets, lighting, textures and geometry density all are a step back.

 

[TransTrender]

40 fps + VRR plox

This please

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

The issues unfortunately are much deeper than just resolution or image clarity, the assets, lighting, textures and geometry density all are a step back.

Textures appear about the same as part 1 which was a mixed bag of high quality, mid quality and low quality textures. But the overall visual direction was well received. This is to be expected as the project doesn't have an infinite budget and development timeframe. The geometry, I've seen many including John from DF state that game has a lot more geometric density and variety compared to the 1st part, hence the hit to resolution over intergrade as they're pushing much more on the screen. There will always be tradeoffs.

 

[Doctor Hades]

I was perfectly fine with how the demo looked in Performance mode when I played it for 1.5 hours to completion last weekend but I am obviously not going to complain if they make improvements to it. The biggest issue I had with the game was noticeable pop in in places and a few low-res textures but it's nothing to make me cancel my £100 Deluxe Edition pre-order from Amazon.

 

[Hudo]

which resulted in a net gain of 1fps

a gain is a gain.

 

[Damigos]

Resolution > Antialiasing. For me at least. AA can be very demanding