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Golden Globe Awards 2015 aka The Tina and Amy Show - 5pm PST
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I didn't dislike Boyhood, I just don't think it was that special. It was a fine movie for the spectacle of watching something that had a span of 12 years, but the actual content of the movie was quite bare. And the things Mason was going through didn't really have any connection with me. Cool movie though.
Pretty much how I feel. I'm not the biggest fan of the Before Trilogy either although I think the last 30 minuted of Before Midnight is great, so maybe there's just something about Linklater's writing that puts me off.
Slacker was pretty cool tough!
Net_Wrecker
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I have not seen Fargo but did it deserve to win over true detective? Was it that good? If so I guess I may have to definitely start seeing it sometime.
It's good, but no. And I'm not even one of those "True Detective is God's gift to TV" people, but Fargo shouldn't have won over TD imo.
Nothing "deserves" to win an award. But I personally thought Fargo and Billy Bob were more entertaining and refreshing than anything true detective had to offer.I have not seen Fargo but did it deserve to win over true detective? Was it that good? If so I guess I may have to definitely start seeing it sometime.
Except you just described a lot of films, including one of Linklater's first (see: Slacker).
I'm surprised you don't call me the worst poster on neogaf for disliking boyhood.
BertramCooper
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When I think of a "gimmicky" Oscar film I think of The Artist.
I wouldn't put Boyhood in that category at all.
I wouldn't put Boyhood in that category at all.
I feel the same way.I didn't dislike Boyhood, I just don't think it was that special. It was a fine movie for the spectacle of watching something that had a span of 12 years, but the actual content of the movie was quite bare. And the things Mason was going through didn't really have any connection with me. Cool movie though.
I honestly think that the gimmick is a big part of why people are so into it. I just don't believe that were the film shot all at once, either using makeup/CG or different actors to show ageing, the movie wouldn't have gotten this much attention or praise. I liked the concept a lot, but found myself not really digging the actual content of the movie all that much.
Again, good movie, deserved the best director win, but best picture? I dunno.
Anyway, glad to see Billy Bob and JK Simmons win. Fantastic performances.
I'm surprised you don't call me the worst poster on neogaf for disliking boyhood.
There's a disparity between disliking something and making a brash/ignorant statement and not expecting to be called out on it.
When I think of a "gimmicky" Oscar film I think of The Artist.
I wouldn't put Boyhood in that category at all.
So filming something over 12 years isn't a gimmick?
I'm a bad poster, stop replying to me!There's a disparity between disliking something and making a brash/ignorant statement and not expecting to be called out on it.
Discotheque
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I haven't seen theory of everything but film-wise I didn't really mind any of the winners. Especially happy for boyhood, linklater and Keaton
Common had the best speech of the night
Foh with that gimmick shit, the 12 years thing was integral to the film. Made it feel like even more of a window inside the life of a boy growing up in the 00s
Common had the best speech of the night
Foh with that gimmick shit, the 12 years thing was integral to the film. Made it feel like even more of a window inside the life of a boy growing up in the 00s
When I think of a "gimmicky" Oscar film I think of The Artist.
I wouldn't put Boyhood in that category at all.
I don't see how it is even arguable that Boyhood utilizes a gimmick. That doesn't say anything about the quality, but it is definitely a gimmicky film.
BertramCooper
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So filming something over 12 years isn't a gimmick?
It could have been, but it wasn't in Boyhood.
Right? By that logic Boyhood would be even more pretentious.So filming something over 12 years isn't a gimmick?
When I think of a "gimmicky" Oscar film I think of The Artist.
I wouldn't put Boyhood in that category at all.
Again, yup.
Traumnovelle
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IF YOU DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT/UNUSUAL IT HAS TO BE A GIMMICKSo filming something over 12 years isn't a gimmick?
I'm a bad poster, stop replying to me!
IF YOU DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT/UNUSUAL IT HAS TO BE A GIMMICK
Birdman was a gimmick!
BertramCooper
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I don't see how it is even arguable that Boyhood utilizes a gimmick. That doesn't say anything about the quality, but it is definitely a gimmicky film.
You can't deny that "gimmick" a very loaded, derogatory term.
No one ever uses it as a compliment.
Atraveller
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I like The Artist :/When I think of a "gimmicky" Oscar film I think of The Artist.
I wouldn't put Boyhood in that category at all.
Net_Wrecker
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For example, Michael Mann is a "gimmick"...unfortunately.
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I mean, i can see why some people view boyhood as a gimmick. The lead boy, in his older age clearly isnt an actor. Some of his later scenes are fairly cringe worthy, especially the last one out in the desert. But it is an admirable effort and easy to feel good rewarding.
Ask yourself if it would have won if the entire movie was filmed in 2014 and had different actors for the children.
I'm a rock hard chested computer hacker who may or may not need shakey handheld cam CGI for me to jump over a banister.
If Boyhood is a gimmick, all films are. Every film deals with the passage of time to some extent. The 12 year idea is the most accurate and believe able way to tell the story Linklater wanted to tell. Yes if you took that away it wouldn't be the same film. But you can take an essential component out of any film and it wouldn't be the same. It's such a silly thing to point out.
It is not a gimmick.
It just turned out that the boy did not grow into being a decent actor. And Linklater, went into his experimental teenage philosophy mode over the second half of the film. The film lost its way.
I would argue that the first half is excellent, and the second half is among the worst films I have ever watched.
Net_Wrecker
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I'm a rock hard chested computer hacker who may or may not need shakey handheld cam CGI for me to jump over a banister.
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I'm a rock hard chested computer hacker who may or may not need shakey handheld cam CGI for me to jump over a banister.
That's not a gimmick, that's just lazy.
That's not a gimmick, that's just lazy.
Can't argue that!
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Waaaaaaaaaaaat?
Discotheque
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Michael Mann da gawd. Blackhat in theaters January 16.
To hell with you plebs
To hell with you plebs
I'm a rock hard chested computer hacker who may or may not need shakey handheld cam CGI for me to jump over a banister.
just rewatched collateral a couple days ago, mann is still a god. public enemies was terrible, but I have faith blackhat will be a return to form.
just rewatched collateral a couple days ago, mann is still a god. public enemies was terrible, but I have faith blackhat will be a return to form.
Collateral is great.
What does this even mean?For example, Michael Mann is a "gimmick"...unfortunately.
What does this even mean?
What don't you get? You've been incoherent most of the thread.
equippedwithtowel
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I mean, i can see why some people view boyhood as a gimmick. The lead boy, in his older age clearly isnt an actor. Some of his later scenes are fairly cringe worthy, especially the last one out in the desert. But it is an admirable effort and easy to feel good rewarding.
Like that was the point
kid was high as fuuuuuck
Haloid1177
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Birdman was a gimmick!
It had its gimmick in how it was cut, but it was also backed up by all around fantastic performances and an actual plot.
Fuck I don't even dislike Boyhood but it sure seems like it.
It had its gimmick in how it was cut, but it was also backed up by all around fantastic performances and an actual plot.
Fuck I don't even dislike Boyhood but it sure seems like it.
That was in jest due to other posters. I liked Birdman more than most it seems.
Non linear stories aren't a gimmick.Memento is a gimmicky film also. Still awesome.
Net_Wrecker
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Michael Mann da gawd. Blackhat in theaters January 16.
To hell with you plebs
You seen this video?
Those visuals. Those locations. Obviously avoid if you don't want to see anything but omggg
I don't get how a director is a gimmick. What is his gimmick? How is he a gimmick?What don't you get? You've been incoherent most of the thread.
You're the one lacking clarity sir.
BertramCooper
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It had its gimmick in how it was cut, but it was also backed up by all around fantastic performances and an actual plot.
Fuck I don't even dislike Boyhood but it sure seems like it.
Is any novel stylistic choice a gimmick to you?
I don't get how a director is a gimmick. What is his gimmick? How is he a gimmick?
You're the one lacking clarity sir.
I love Linklater. I don't think he is a gimmicky director.
Again, what's your point?
You said thisI love Linklater. I don't think he is a gimmicky director.
Again, what's your point?
I just asked what does this mean? I'm not even being complicated. I literally do not understand you.For example, Michael Mann is a "gimmick"...unfortunately.
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