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Serious question, how do you feel cheated by something that was given to you for free?Hindsight is 20/20
I think it’s now obvious the good will in releasing multiplayer early was to offset a completely incomplete game at launch as of 12/8/2021.
And for this there is no valid excuse. Push the release date back or fucking admit to the community a barebones incomplete game is going to be released 12/8 and they would still piss people off but wouldn’t break the trust of the community making a lot of us feel cheated for supporting something that is clearly fun and special but totally incomplete.
That thread has been titiled wrongly. The subreddit was closed because some of the posters started doxxing and sending death threats to 343i community managers. Some of the playlist changes will come out this month but not on December 8 because 343i team is taking a break. This got some people to shouting insults saying "this should be day 1".
The reason it’s free is in the past 343 can’t make content and fixes in a timely manner. And honestly if your paying $60 just for a campaign without staple like co-op? Then why even separate the two?Serious question, how do you feel cheated by something that was given to you for free?
Serious question, how do you feel cheated by something that was given to you for free?
Digging up personal information about someone like finding someone’s address or phone number to harass them.What is doxxing?
Oh that's messed upDigging up personal information about someone like finding someone’s address or phone number to harass them.
The reason it’s free is in the past 343 can’t make content and fixes in a timely manner. And honestly if your paying $60 just for a campaign without staple like co-op? Then why even separate the two?
There was Halo online and Halo 5 forge for free.
definitely better then COD
Vanguard is good, i liked vanguard it's fast paced and hectic, what i said wasn't mean't as a slight to Vanguard, i just think halo is better. As for 2042, its not terrible it just feels a lot less optimized then COD and halo plus i think the huge maps hurt the game more then it helps but buried deep inside 2042, there is a good game.hmm for me personally Vanguard is one of the best FPS games I've played. Credit has to be given to that team for creating such immersive atmosphere/environment and shooting the guns feels really good too.
Both are awesome FPS games. Can't speak of 2042 since I've never played it
I get the bad netcode being killed even in cover, forced playlist and insanely broken progression and store. but didn't knew enemy collision was right up there with these things. that explains why enemy just seems to vanish magically when you're in a melee frenzy, but definitely a low priority for me compared to the big 3.
Sounds like you are emotionally invested in this series like a lot of people, myself included but that doesn't mean they owe us anything, at all. Having a check list of demands that MUST be in a title or you feel cheated is just ridiculous, unless these features have been promised and not delivered after you paid money for a game. 343 have been fucking this up one way or another for 9 years now i'm just happy the core game is solid that's what matter most. They have been very upfront on what's coming and when. Are some aspects disappointing? Absolutely, but I'm enjoying the game tremendously with friends I've not played online with in years, its all gravy from here on in hopefully.Been playing halo since OG xbox launch day 11/15/2001. Halo is the only game I play on Xbox. Also the only online multiplayer pvp game I have played continuously over the years.
That’s having a stake in the community. I as everyone who has to invested time and effort into making the halo community what it is, even if they don’t agree with me, are all stakeholders. The community doesn’t exist without all of us.
Thus when they hold one method of maintaining online multiplayer over 7 previous games, and then make a change that is widely viewed to be a money grabbing move that waters down online progression despite being free up front, then I as Stakeholder feel cheated. Simple concept been around for decades
Edit: I also preordered on live paying the full amount already, but know the technicality of it still being “free” but not giving any of the same progress as previous halo multiplayer games have in the past is exactly the gotcha you are looking for me to reply.
Depends on who you are playing against.It seems you get punished huge for losing in ranked, and then get next to nothing for winning. That's getting frustrating.
So then you didn’t seriously have a question, but rather just wanted to attack my opinion on the matter to validate your own.Sounds like you are emotionally invested in this series like a lot of people, myself included but that doesn't mean they owe us anything, at all. Having a check list of demands that MUST be in a title or you feel cheated is just ridiculous, unless these features have been promised and not delivered after you paid money for a game. 343 have been fucking this up one way or another for 9 years now i'm just happy the core game is solid that's what matter most. They have been very upfront on what's coming and when. Are some aspects disappointing? Absolutely, but I'm enjoying the game tremendously with friends I've not played online with in years, its all gravy from here on in hopefully.
I've also been playing Halo since the start, this game plays like a fantastic proper Halo game and I'm looking forward to what's coming down the line. I really don't get the outrage, like at all. Games solid, campaign looks like it will deliver and more stuff and fixes are coming, its a great time to be a Halo fan if you ask me. Maybe because I'm a Destiny 1 and 2 survivor my skin is a bit thicker than most, that game did launch like shit, and I definitely felt cheated at the launch of those games but they became great and gave me some fantastic gaming memories, I'm sure Infinite will do the same.
Also don't get your reasoning behind pre-ordering the campaign? You feel cheated yet your still fine with handing over $60 bucks on just the campaign with out any reviews or impressions and already feeling let down by the MP side of things? Why would you do that? Just hang fire with your cash and make an informed decision.
I'm sure 343 have done their best and if that's not good enough for some then maybe its just time to make your voice heard & move on, plenty of other games out there.
Also not looking for a "gotcha" whatever that means, I was just asking why you felt cheated.
Digging up personal information about someone like finding someone’s address or phone number to harass them.
usually means that people puiblisize the information too not just the individual keeping it to themselves.Oh that's messed up
Easy tiger, not trying to invalidate anything I asked you a genuine question and offered my opinion, sorry if came across in any other way.So then you didn’t seriously have a question, but rather just wanted to attack my opinion on the matter to validate your own.
Got it thanks.
My opinion is as valid as yours and neither of us are right, but both of our opinions are equally valid as stakeholders in the halo franchise.
343 making the changes they have to get a bigger piece of the pie and gain more users rather than rely on sales of the game has consequences, and in this case it’s to players like us that have made Halo what it is. You have no issue with it, that is your opinion. I feel it is irreparably changing multiplayer for the worse as the other half the existing player base does.
And I preordered online because I have played every Halo campaign day one until I finish on legendary. Normally on coop with my highshool friends we grew up playing together… which is another bone to pick but I digress.
Not trying to invalidate your opinion, you have no issue with it I understand and your thier target audience in hoping expanding the player base by weakening the multiplayer game won’t dissuade some existing players. And the changes I want are impossible to implement once it’s already been launched as free to play with paid battle passes. I am just voicing my discontent with my favorite pvp multiplayer game being gimped down to the lowest common denominator that is free to play micro transaction games, and as a stakeholder how I have felt cheated by it. Not monetarily, but in dedicated time and effort to this community. If I wanted to play Destiny or any other game I would’ve kept playing that, we are talking solely of one franchise here: Halo
Better question is, how is a game with a lengthy SP campaign and a full featured MP mode, incomplete?Serious question, how do you feel cheated by something that was given to you for free?
Define incomplete.Better question is, how is a game with a lengthy SP campaign and a full featured MP mode, incomplete?
I am chill. No prob, no offense taken at any point despite your nuanced efforts. Just being direct and clearly stating my opinion and the ideas why I have them while not attacking you personally while that’s not being reciprocated.Easy tiger, not trying to invalidate anything I asked you a genuine question and offered my opinion, sorry if came across in any other way.
Chill out.
You savage. Just use a challenge swap. Be better.Weeklies should be better. How is it fun me quiting capture the flag because my challenge is for a stockpile match.
Who said a sequel needs to include everything the previous games had? That's a ridiculous expectation.Define incomplete.
Missing features from previous titles? Yes
Incomplete? , it will be until they stop adding features to it in about ten years.
Not me. Ah I see, i miss read you post, sorry. I thought you were saying Halo was incomplete. My bad.Who said a sequel needs to include everything the previous games had? That's a ridiculous expectation.
I had no idea this game was having such a huge backlash…
It’s a fun free to play arena shooter why are people going absolutely batshit about progression etc??
Unbelievably childish, progression on an online shooter is a bit long and you can’t get your shiny blue helmet early enough. This shit is hilarious.
Isn’t it what you’d expect from a F2P game? Always got a similar experience from like war frame and the like. You got F2P that’s what you get.
The meme with the $10 pineapple chest armor compared to the cost of a real pineapple $1.88 at Walmart was hilarious.
censoring a community? what could possibly go wrongthe official Halo Subreddit has been put into a temporary lockdown lol, almost the whole subreddit was people shitting on 343i, with like 10% of it being funny videos and memes... the memes were usually also dunking on the monetisation and lack of features
You don't need to win to increase rank btw. I have increased rank a lot while losing.Every time I get within one win of reaching Diamond 1 the matchmaking puts me in a borderline unwinnable game, the one time I did win it gave me zero rank points after destroying a team in slayer.
I'm not too pissed since playing solo is just an RNG farce to begin with but still...this is just stupid
You don't need to win to increase rank btw. I have increased rank a lot while losing.
Not necessarily. This is ranked, not just giving out XP. If you win when you shouldn't or you perform really well in a losing team you will move up. If you stomp a team that you should stomp, you shouldn't move up.to be fair tho, winning should always give you some RP.
the whole system seems a bit weird sometimes. I can absolutely destroy one game and get barely anything, but the next game that arguably went way worse gives me a ton RP.
just today, I won a slayer match with a K/D of 21/7 and crazy hit accuracy and barely went higher, but the next I play way worse and get way more.
I get that this also depends on the enemy team somewhat but come on!
First people didn't like the "progression" because they didn't get enough XP when playing. Now that's fixed since you can move up a level per day simply by playing 7 games.Can I get a cliff notes on whats going on with the Halo community? Seemed like the multiplayer was getting praise at the beginning what's happened in the last 2-3 weeks?
1st people were and are still complaning about the progression system. 343 did some tweaks, but were only a step in the right direction for some. 2nd, they were complaining about a lack of maps/modes 3rd, they are complaining about not being able to select slayer only mode in playlistCan I get a cliff notes on whats going on with the Halo community? Seemed like the multiplayer was getting praise at the beginning what's happened in the last 2-3 weeks?
I actually think that a rotating slayer type playlist would be cool using different weapons. I know I could use some Sniper practice and love SWAT as a gametypeI don't believe for one minute that slayer/objective and ffa each having their own playlist will fracture the community. The people that like those types will stick with what they like. They could also cycle in and out playlist like SWAT,snipers etc and see which stick.