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Harry Potter reboot at HBO being announced soon?

Laieon

Member
(ignore the cursed child that shit was ass)
Given the opportunity to see it, I'd recommend the play itself to anyone. The story might read like mediocre fan fiction, but it's extremely enjoyable to see in person for the set and lighting work alone. Maybe it's just because it's the only Broadway play (and really, play in general outside of a very-amateur version of Titus Andronicus) I've seen, but I had no clue what they managed to pull off was even possible.
 
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Tams

Member
Yes, animated Harry Potter using the art style of the first book cover. The creativity would be boundless and they wouldn’t have to worry about the actors aging or even looking the part.

Get Tim burton and his claymation team involved, that would be sick.

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I’m also a big fan of Hogwarts Legacy, the castle design in that game is exactly what they should copy for the show. Have each episode revolving around a class / lesson or event like Quidditch + the main story plot.
'Sorcerer's Stone'.

Get that shite out of here.

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Laieon

Member
A whole season for each book? How is that supposed to work? Harry Potter isn’t ASoIaF or LotR; these are fundamentally children‘s books, they aren’t nearly dense enough to provide material for full tv seasons (especially the first three books). Are they gonna make up stuff to fill time?

This also isn't the 80s and 90s and "season" isn't very descriptive in terms of amount of episodes. It's not unheard of for seasons (and episode length; look at the Last of Us) to be varied in length to tell the story that needs to be told. Maybe Sorceror's Stone & Chamber of Secrets is 5 episodes, while Half Blood Prince is 10.

I definitely agree that these aren't dense books, but if (because I'm very skeptical that a reboot is actually happening) they were adapted as a TV show there's definitely an opportunity to allow for some breathing room, fix pacing problems, and adjust plot points that were entirely skipped over in the movies (if I remember correctly 3 doesn't actually explain who the Marauder's were, for example, which makes the map lose a bit of it's significance, and a ton of stuff was cut from Order of the Phoenix).
 

This article is amazing and encapsulates everything I've ever thought about the "controversy" surrounding J.K. Rowlling more succinctly than anything I've ever read.

It's also behind a paywall, so:

When Hogwarts Legacy was released in February, the verdict from video-game sites was close to unanimous: The latest spin-off from the Harry Potter series was a heartless mess, the product of a bigoted worldview, and playing it involved an uncomfortable act of moral compromise—or at least holding your nose and reassuring yourself that J. K. Rowling was not directly involved.

The tech magazine Wired gave the game 1/10, and said its “real-world harms are impossible to ignore.” (These were left unspecified, but let’s presume the reviewer wasn’t talking about repetitive-strain injury from too many spell battles.) TheGamer declined to review the title at all, and suggested that readers should not play Hogwarts Legacy “if you care about your trans friends.” The British outlet Rock Paper Shotgun pointedly reviewed games by trans developers instead. The Mary Sue reported on an alleged fan boycott, in an article that began with the Potteresque incantation “Accio controversy!”

Read: How J. K. Rowling became Voldemort

Even the walk-throughs—those helpful guides telling players how to solve the game’s puzzles and defeat its bosses—carried panicked disclaimers. “On numerous occasions in recent years, billionaire and Harry Potter creator J. K. Rowling has taken public stances against inclusive transgender laws and trans rights,” reads a note at the bottom of a Polygon guide to finding the magic keys scattered around Hogwarts. “The game has been embroiled in controversy due to transphobic remarks from Harry Potter author JK Rowling,” GameSpot warns its readers, in an apologetic tone. Neither outlet joined a boycott of the game—walk-throughs are a reliable source of web traffic for months or even years—but both wanted you to know that they deplored it nonetheless. The headline of an Axios article by the former Kotaku editor Stephen Totilo even declared that the Hogwarts Legacy launch had become a “referendum” on the author.

If so, the votes are in: J. K. Rowling wins by a landslide. The views she has expressed on Twitter and elsewhere—for instance, that women’s spaces, such as prisons and domestic-violence shelters, should be protected on the basis of biological sex rather than self-declared gender, and that some young people are rushed toward medical transition with insufficient gatekeeping—are clearly not fatally repulsive to normie consumers.

Hogwarts Legacy sold more than 12 million copies in its first two weeks, even though it’s not yet available for older consoles. As the website Den of Geek conceded—in an article preceded by an italicized warning about “Rowling’s history of transphobic remarks”—those sales generated more than $850 million in revenue. Let me put that number in perspective: John Wick: Chapter 4, the latest in the Keanu Reeves action-movie franchise, just had what is generally considered to be an excellent opening weekend at the box office by taking in $73.5 million. The financial success of Hogwarts Legacy is many times greater. At the same time, it became the game with the most concurrent streams on Twitch—even though some Twitch streamers were harassed for playing it.

The success of Hogwarts Legacy follows the pattern of other recent J. K. Rowling projects, which are still hits, despite her alleged outcast status. The London run of Harry Potter and the Cursed Child just extended to March next year, and the play is also running in New York, Tokyo, Melbourne, Toronto, and Hamburg. Rowling’s crime novels, written under the pseudonym Robert Galbraith, have all been best sellers in Britain, and the latest television adaptation ran on the BBC over Christmas. Every day, a long line forms outside the Harry Potter shop at King’s Cross, as people of all ages wait to be photographed with the luggage cart embedded in the wall at “Platform 9 ¾.” (The only Rowling property that is struggling is the Fantastic Beasts movie franchise, which received mixed reviews for its third installment last year.)

What’s going on? The most obvious explanation is the emergence of a class of internet critics who are completely out of touch with their audiences. This dynamic isn’t unique to video games. In recent years, I have become a student of what I think of as the “Rotten Tomatoes split”—that is, the gulf between critical and audience reactions to various pieces of art. Hannah Gadsby’s progressive demolition of stand-up comedy, Nanette, scored 100 percent with critics but just 26 percent with fans. For Dave Chappelle’s The Closer, which reflects on the comedian’s own experience of being ostracized for his jokes about trans issues, the reverse was true. It scored 40 percent with critics and 95 percent with audiences. (My own review was ambivalent; Chappelle’s sour anger dulled his undoubted gifts as a comic.)

The explanation for this gulf’s persistence is simple. “Much of the current divergence between elite discourse and popular preference can be reduced to a simple heuristic: Most critics are on Twitter; most consumers are not,” my Atlantic colleague Yair Rosenberg argued last year. “Just as most people do not watch CNN and have no idea what’s in President Biden’s proposed Build Back Better Act, most people are not even aware of J. K. Rowling’s tweeted views on transgender topics, let alone have had those views color their engagement with her writing.”

Yair Rosenberg: Your bubble is not the culture

Because political takes go viral more easily than aesthetics assessments do, we end up with rafts of commentary on whether an artwork is problematic, with the question of whether it’s interesting or well made trailing a long way behind. Some of the Hogwarts Legacy reviews barely touched on its gameplay mechanics—largely lifted from the Batman: Arkham series, as far as I can see, with a dash of the Eagle Vision from Assassin’s Creed—because they were so busy delivering a verdict on its political credentials. I’m currently 40 hours in and having so much fun kidnapping hippogriffs that I haven’t finished the game’s main quest, but unless something catastrophic happens in hour 41, no remotely fair-minded reviewer would rate this game as low as 1/10.

For me, the most interesting question is: Why single out Hogwarts Legacy for so much opprobrium? I’ve been playing games for decades, and the panicked tone of the disclaimers distancing websites from J. K. Rowling’s views is striking—particularly when so many other titles are potentially objectionable for their actual content. Where were the earnest postscripts stressing that Polygon, GameSpot, and the rest did not endorse ripping out someone’s spinal column (Mortal Kombat); running down blameless pedestrians (Grand Theft Auto); or committing genocide against an entire species of rhinolike warriors with a biological weapon (Mass Effect)? In past controversies, sites tended to report criticism of sexist or otherwise offensive plot elements—I should know, having written some of those articles—without needing to treat the games themselves as if they had cooties. Hogwarts Legacy is set in a boarding school. Its violence is stylized and bloodless, and much of my playing time has been spent growing shrivelfigs, rescuing nifflers, and using a magic loom to upgrade my extensive collection of scarves. The landlady of the pub in Hogsmeade is a trans woman. Dark wizards are the enemies. This is not Triumph of the Will: The Video Game.

The difference in the treatment of Hogwarts Legacy, and Rowling, from any other blockbuster game is instructive because it demonstrates that trans issues have become the No. 1 progressive touchstone among Gen Z—and particularly its nerdier fandoms. The fact that Rowling’s views on gender spring from her feminism, and her own experience of male violence, does not register strongly with an age cohort in which half of respondents say that women’s rights have gone too far. The specialist sites’ disclaimers also reflect the very male culture of video games, which persists despite the fact that players are now about evenly split along gender lines—48 percent identify as female, according to the latest figures from the Entertainment Software Association. The right-wing version of gamer hostility to feminism became apparent nearly a decade ago in Gamergate, the sexist backlash to the perceived feminization of games; the left-wing version today is the refusal to listen to Rowling’s actual, stated views as a left-wing British feminist and instead to hold her responsible for anti-trans bills in red states. The implication is that she should not raise her widely shared concerns about women’s spaces or child gender medicine because Tennessee, Texas, and Florida have elected Republican governors.

The treatment of Hogwarts Legacy reflects my own experiences of writing about gender: being dismissed by people—including some in video-game circles—who don’t know very much about feminism but are very confident that feminists are doing it wrong. A few years ago, my voice was supposed to appear on a fictional radio show within the Ubisoft game Watch Dogs: Legion. But a controversy erupted online over my opposition to the use of the term TERF (along with Zionist) as a lazy slur, as well as columns I’d written about the challenges of gender self-identification in women’s prisons and elsewhere. The company promptly canned me. When one longtime freelance contributor to Rock Paper Shotgun protested in the comments of its news report that the site was presenting only one side of the controversy, the website promptly severed its relationship with him. If you wonder why all the video-game press seems to speak with one voice, well, there’s your explanation.

Does it matter if video-game critics are trapped in a bubble? I think so; these sites are badly serving their readers. There’s nothing wrong with holding minority opinions, but if you’re an activist trying to improve society, it is catastrophic not to realize when most people don’t agree with you. Social psychologists call this “false consensus” or “the majority illusion,” and it leads not only to campaigning missteps but also to hurt and disillusionment. Imagine what it’s like to know, deep in your heart, that J. K. Rowling is obviously a hateful bigot intent on perpetrating a genocide against a vulnerable minority—to the extent that this can merely be asserted, rather than argued—and then look at the sales figures for Hogwarts Legacy. “As long as you all support Harry Potter regardless of how hateful and deliberately malicious J.K. Rowling’s statements become, you’re saying trans people just don’t matter as much as fictional wizards,” wrote TheGamer’s Stacey Henley ahead of the launch.

That’s one possibility. Or it might be that activists, trapped in their critical bubbles, have failed to make the case for Harry Potter’s untouchable status to the general public. Hogwarts Legacy is a huge success. The attempt to force a consensus that J. K. Rowling is a bigot, however—that has been a miserable failure.
 
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GymWolf

Member
Hot take here, but I preferred the movie version of the final fight. I get what the book was going for by having it focus entirely on a clever twist being Voldemort’s downfall, but I still wanted to see an actual fight, so the movie gave me more what I wanted. At least IIRC, it has been a minute since I watched it.
Final fight in the movie was bullshit, harry is not even on the same universe of voldemort power wise and they turned a carefully crafted story moment into a marvel movie type of fight, people watching really thought that harry was given voldy a run for his money.

P.s. you people weren't kidding, the purple topic is hilariously deranged, poor cunts...
 
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Fenix34

I remove teeth
I hope this guy will be athletic guy in HBO reboot.
Main theme i hope will be eye of tiger or burning heart.

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belmarduk

Member
It would be so much better if they would use the foundation laid by Hogwarts Legacy for a new series rather than just a retread of Harry Potter.
 

jufonuk

not tag worthy
This is probably the absolute fucking nadir of mainstreamHollywood right here, guys.

The bottom of the fucking barrel of creativity. Literally no one there can think of anything new anymore. It’s just reboot, repeat, redo.
They just copying the industry that makes the most money
 

NeoIkaruGAF

Gold Member
The movies were great. I saw them all the day they released and have since watched them countless times but the story/lore and characters of the books deserves better. So much was left out. And after all the build up the movies totally fucked up the big fight between Harry and Voldemort.

books 1-2 were fine when adapted but it started to go downhill with 3. 4 and 5 were butchered. 6 had enough time to tell the story but the focus was completely wrong. parts 1 + 2 of DH were mostly faithful to the books right up until the final duel between Harry/Voldemort.
Spot on.
5 was butchered beyond belief, 6 was a teen school drama that steered back to the main plot in the end, and 7 part 1 made a tremendous buildup that was ruined by some awful direction and dialogue in the final battle sequence.

To me, the problem with the movies can be summed up in two words: David Yates.
The Potter movies directed by him are all about “oh, you haven’t read the books? Fuck you then, no time to explain the subtleties here”.
His HP movies all have a terrible piss filter, the direction gets worse than amateurish at times, and the casting is much less on point than in the first movies (Jim Broadbent as Professor Slughorn is just wrong, how did they not see this?).
 

E-Cat

Member
Spot on.
5 was butchered beyond belief, 6 was a teen school drama that steered back to the main plot in the end, and 7 part 1 made a tremendous buildup that was ruined by some awful direction and dialogue in the final battle sequence.

To me, the problem with the movies can be summed up in two words: David Yates.
The Potter movies directed by him are all about “oh, you haven’t read the books? Fuck you then, no time to explain the subtleties here”.
His HP movies all have a terrible piss filter, the direction gets worse than amateurish at times, and the casting is much less on point than in the first movies (Jim Broadbent as Professor Slughorn is just wrong, how did they not see this?).
Yates is a hack. Should've used Cuaron more than once.
 

E-Cat

Member
They begged Cuaron to come back but he was like nope lol big budget Hollywood movie life ain't for me

Prisoner of Azkaban was by far the best of the movies but oh well
PoA is the only entry in the series that I consider actual cinema with any artistic merit. Though the first two are still competent in that Christmas-y roller-coaster ride, establishing-the-characters type of way. The rest, I don't really care for.
 
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DKehoe

Member
why? no one forced you to open the thread
Which one? There were multiple ongoing community threads dedicated to chronicling Resetera.

As for why, the people running the site can decide if they don’t want cringe shit on here.
 
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PoA is the only entry in the series that I consider actual cinema with any artistic merit. Though the first two are still competent in that Christmas-y roller-coaster ride, establishing-the-characters type of way. The rest, I don't really care for.
Chris Columbus at least played it safe and tried to stay close to the books.

David Yates was pretty awful and so were movies 4-8. I mean the books got really long after 3 but they just stopped caring about following the books much if at all too.
 

Nautilus

Banned
Ehhhh... Do this really need a reboot? Especially with all the leftist stuff JK Rowling herself put it in?

There are some stuff that DOES need remakes and reboot, and would greatly benefit from it. Harry Potter is not one of these. Just make new stuff guys, stop rehasing the same stuff
 

Saber

Gold Member
Calling it now Hermione will be black in the TV show

She was on the sequel play, which is by far a complete garbage. Fanfiction level of garbage.
There aren't much people who even know about this play, thats how popular it is.
Hence why I find hard to believe in a reboot. Would be smarter and less costy making a story around Harry Potter universe(like Hogwarts Legacy) than risking damaging HP by making stupid decisions.
 
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daTRUballin

Member
Spot on.
5 was butchered beyond belief, 6 was a teen school drama that steered back to the main plot in the end, and 7 part 1 made a tremendous buildup that was ruined by some awful direction and dialogue in the final battle sequence.

To me, the problem with the movies can be summed up in two words: David Yates.
The Potter movies directed by him are all about “oh, you haven’t read the books? Fuck you then, no time to explain the subtleties here”.
His HP movies all have a terrible piss filter, the direction gets worse than amateurish at times, and the casting is much less on point than in the first movies (Jim Broadbent as Professor Slughorn is just wrong, how did they not see this?).
I dunno, we're all going to have our own opinions on the movies, but I can't ever hate Yates's HP films that much. While they did leave a lot of stuff out and had some questionable direction at times, I think he nailed a lot of things.

The last 20-ish minutes of Order of the Phoenix is one of my absolute favorite moments in the entire series. Everything from the moment Sirius dies up until the awesome battle between Dumbledore and Voldemort and then Harry being possessed by Voldemort and fighting him off by telling him that he's the weak one because he's never going to know love and friendship. Really powerful moment right there. Everything was so well done in that part of the movie.

I think his movies hit all the right emotional beats despite some of the stuff missing from them. Deathly Hallows Part 2 was really well done I thought too. The scene showing Snape's memories and the scene where Harry sees his dead family around him in the forest were especially great moments. I know a lot of people have a problem with the final battle, but I'm not really one of those people. It was epic enough for me, though I can understand why some would prefer the book version. I do agree there should've been more dialouge between them there.

Leaving out most of Voldemort's backstory in HBP and not dwelling enough on the prophecy in OotP were pretty unforgivable though, so I'll give you those. And it's not like Cuaron didn't leave stuff out either. I've always hated the fact that he left out the Marauders backstory from PoA. The movie was already one of the shorter movies. It would've only taken a couple of lines to explain the basics and wouldn't have been a detriment to the runtime at all.

Oh yeah, and HBP's cinematography was magnificent too.
They begged Cuaron to come back but he was like nope lol big budget Hollywood movie life ain't for me

Prisoner of Azkaban was by far the best of the movies but oh well
I think it's the other way around. Cuaron wanted to do Goblet of Fire, but didn't like the idea of starting on pre-production for that movie before PoA was even finished. And then he wanted to come back for the later movies, but Yates got the job instead.

I do wish Yates didn't do the last 4 movies all by himself. I kinda liked it when the movies would hop from director to director. It made things more interesting.
 
I think it's the other way around. Cuaron wanted to do Goblet of Fire, but didn't like the idea of starting on pre-production for that movie before PoA was even finished. And then he wanted to come back for the later movies, but Yates got the job instead.

I do wish Yates didn't do the last 4 movies all by himself. I kinda liked it when the movies would hop from director to director. It made things more interesting.

Cuaron has said he only wanted to do 1 film and that was enough for him.

He has also said he would return for a sequel if invited, but not Goblet of Fire as he needed a break after 2 continuous years of working on Prisoner of Azkaban.

So at this point it's all pretty academic. He was never invited back after GoF, and the 1 film he did ended being by far the best of the 8. Cuaron went on to make the amazing Children of Men and the also amazing Gravity. I didn't know he directed a movie for Netflix called Roma, I should probably watch that sometime.
 

TrebleShot

Member
Who will play Gandalf? I’m not sure man will this tie into the Amazon series?

Since they sacked off Henry Cavill as Aragorn it’s not been the same.
 

GreenAlien

Member
His HP movies all have a terrible piss filter, the direction gets worse than amateurish at times, and the casting is much less on point than in the first movies (Jim Broadbent as Professor Slughorn is just wrong, how did they not see this?).
He also ruined the "wonder" factor with unimaginative clothing choices (magical supremacists wearing muggle suits.. really?!) and boring magic (there is basically only that one gun like spell in different colors). I also hate what he did to "apparition".
 
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daTRUballin

Member
He also ruined the "wonder" factor with unimaginative clothing choices (magical supremacists wearing muggle suits.. really?!) and boring magic (there is basically only that one gun like spell in different colors). I also hate what he did to "apparition".
Didn't the whole putting everyone in muggle clothing thing mostly start with the 3rd movie?
 

GreenAlien

Member
Didn't the whole putting everyone in muggle clothing thing mostly start with the 3rd movie?
The third movie still had a sort of balance I think. It sometimes makes sense to wear normal clothing, especially for the good or neutral people depending on the situation.

However, I don't think the third one is best in the franchise either. Only the first 2 have been great adaptions. 3 and 4 were okay. The rest was terrible.
 

Laieon

Member
The third movie still had a sort of balance I think. It sometimes makes sense to wear normal clothing, especially for the good or neutral people depending on the situation.

However, I don't think the third one is best in the franchise either. Only the first 2 have been great adaptions. 3 and 4 were okay. The rest was terrible.

Yeah, I prefer the Colombus films too, even if certain elements are starting to show their age (the troll and Fluffy in 1 are... not great). I understand why people love PoA, but like someone else mentioned I didn't like how it started the trend of moving away from robes and wacky hats to hoodies and "muggle" clothes or how Cuaron (or whoever was in charge of this specific decision) randomly changed how Hogwarts looked.

The books even specifically point out numerous times that many witches and wizard really doesn't understand muggle fashion and when they attempt to fit in, they often wear mismatched things like kilts with rainboots (the beginning of the first book where Vernon notices all the weird looking people out and about, and the third book when they're heading to the boot portkey to go to the Quidditch World Cup and they're dressed in muggle clothes to try to prevent themselves from standing out but Harry specifically mentions that if anything, what they're wearing just makes them stand out even more). Yates definitely took it a step further with everything just being a bit bland style-wise.

I think one of the benefits of a remake is that a consistent visual style can be decided on from the beginning.
 
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daTRUballin

Member
Yeah, I prefer the Colombus films too, even if certain elements are starting to show their age (the troll and Fluffy in 1 are... not great). I understand why people love PoA, but like someone else mentioned I didn't like how it started the trend of moving away from robes and wacky hats to hoodies and "muggle" clothes or how Cuaron (or whoever was in charge of this specific decision) randomly changed how Hogwarts looked.
You know, I've always been puzzled when people point out the troll and Fluffy not looking great in the first movie. For some reason, I never thought they really looked that bad? Especially Fluffy. Maybe it's because I always watch movies on a small 1080p screen on my phone and it's only noticeable on a bigger screen? Or am I just bad at telling what good CGI looks like versus bad?

But on the other hand, I was rewatching the Star Wars movies recently and noticed how some of the CGI in the prequels is pretty spotty, so idk. I just never noticed anything about the two examples above. Maybe I just haven't seen enough movies?

I will say though that the Quidditch match in the first movie is a bit dated looking now. It looked a lot better in the second one.
 

Elysion

Banned
I don’t envy whoever is in charge of casting for this. There are certain characters they absolutely have to nail, like Snape or Dumbledore (aside from the main trio obviously). Like, who could possibly step into Alan Rickman‘s shoes as Snape? I thought about Ezra Miller, since he has the right face, but I don’t think he has the right voice, compared to Rickman‘s iconic voice.

Btw, I fully expect to see some actors from the movies to return, albeit in different roles. I could see Daniel Radcliffe play James Potter in flashbacks, for example. Gary Oldman could return too, except this time as Dumbledore. He‘s in his 60s now, the same age IanMcKellen was when he played Gandalf in the LotR trilogy.
 

Xenon

Member
WTF, the next time they make a big new property they should just film the original and reboot together Peter Jackson style.

Oh wait nevermind, they don't make new properties.
 

Roufianos

Member
Sounds awesome.

Would have no issue welcoming in a new cast. The 3 cunts who sold out Rowling deserve to lose their status as Harry, Ron and Hermione.
 

ADiTAR

ידע זה כוח
uh oh...
We hear the first round of pitch meetings happened in Los Angeles this week and sources said that the top choices will go on to the next round in the UK. It is unclear how involved Harry Potter author J.K. Rowling, who lives in Edinburgh, Scotland, has been with the process, but she is expected to be involved in the decision-making on the series, which she executive produces.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
As long as she doesn't do any of the screenwriting, that's probably fine. Her book writing is great, but her scripts for the Fantastic Beasts movies were horrible.
 
They'll try to balance having J K Rowling on the team by doubling down on sating the woke crowd by race/gender swapping some of the other characters, but will just end up just pissing everyone off. I can already see the 2000 word reddit essays on how Hagrid was always black-coded in the books or something.


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Werewolf Jones

Gold Member
Normies who have a lack of Internet presence and nostalgia for Harry Potter don't give a fuck about J.K. Rowling's Internet crimes. This is gonna make WB infinite money if they don't fumble it.
 

RJMacready73

Simps for Amouranth

That fucking headline just annoys me... Known Transphobe!? Fuck off, should read

Successful biofuckinglogical Woman who sticks up for other Biofuckinglogical women and girls J.K. Rowling is now reported....

Anyways, hopefully the absolute monster success of Hogwarts Legacy will show these Hollywood exec's/producers that the fucking woketards have as bout as much impact on this series as an ant biting my shoe, nobody gives a shit about you or your message so fuck off... Rant over,

Really looking forward to this and I for one don't care if they race swap out Hermione for a young black girl, makes a lotta sense for me in this day and age to have some better representation
 
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