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HITMAN |Beta Thread| The original assassin. [PS4+PC]
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serenewarfare
Banned
For the record, I didn't get a code from my Amazon order. So I went and just pre-ordered it from Square's web store. Got a code in about twenty minutes.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
This is fun. Instinct is too OP though. Gives you target location through walls and floors? Uh... no thanks. Would like some instinct toggles.
Weapon on back is very un-hitman. Very.
Otherwise, this is a real Hitman game!
Weapon on back is very un-hitman. Very.
Otherwise, this is a real Hitman game!
BibiMaghoo
Member
It has them in the menu. You can turn it off.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I like some aspects of it, like item highlights.
More_Badass
Member
Is that any different from the other Hitman games? You could see your target's location on the map.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
Uh, I don't recall tbh. It's possible. Been a while, and my recollection has eroded on some of this stuff.
If so, I most likely complained about on gaf back then as well! lol
Dick Justice
Banned
Big difference is that pre-Absolution you had to look at the map which took away 47's control, but Absolution's solution that this is very close to is basically realtime wallhack that highlight NPC's according priority / importance. In Absolution you could disable vision, and I think it was automatically turned off at higher difficulty levels.
More_Badass
Member
Personally I think Instinct is the better option. You don't have to pause the game and can get the same info in a second or two while still playing.
FrontalMonk
Banned
Yeah in the old Hitman games when you'd bring up the map it would have circles with lines indicating NPCs and the direction they were facing. When you played on normal difficulties it had gray circles for random people, blue circles for police, yellow circles for guards, and red circles for targets. In Professional mode only the target was visible, but even then you could pull up the map and see them no matter what part of the level they were on.
Moff
Member
I didn't hate instinct as most did in absolution, it was not overpowered because as you say, you always had that power in hitman, it was just displayed differently.
however, I do prefer the map, it makes me feel more like a professional, it's less passive. it's more fun.
People with same uniform: won't detect you.
People with same uniform and a white dot above head: Will get suspicious of you rather quickly, but you still have plenty room to escape etc.
And then it depends which areas your disguise-profession is allowed to enter generall of course.
I watched BikeMan playing earlier and disguises seem to be quite powerful now. You literally need to shove yourself into face of equal for him to get suspicious or walk into superior [e.g. officer who is in charge of guards] for them to start question who you are. Basically by not walking directly into other guards or officers while being disguised as guard you can move around quite freely etc.
Also like one would expect you can only trigger certain events when disguised as certain personnel.
Pandora012
Member
That sucks. Do they know they've been sending them out since atleast yesterday?
JackBauer24
Member
Forgot to preorder, for some reason I thought this was next week. Are the preorder bonuses still available if I buy it now?
Alkastelca
Member
I like it a lot but there are some serious framerate dips. I really hope that this beta is from the old build of the game.
Anyway, it looks OK.
Here I took some screenshots:
Anyway, it looks OK.
Here I took some screenshots:
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Just got it actually...but the code seems to be invalid. Haha. Lucky me ¯|_(ツ
_|¯Dick Justice
Banned
From the screenshots, it looks less visually stylized than Absolution. A bit bland, honestly.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
From the screenshots, it looks less visually stylized than Absolution. A bit bland, honestly.
Given the difference between locations, I'm not surprised.
From the screenshots, it looks less visually stylized than Absolution. A bit bland, honestly.
To be fair everything that we see in beta is build into old abandoned military base that is located inside of mountain, basically cheapo set pieces put up so they can give 47 some test targets.
SJRB
Gold Member
In all fairness the beta missions take place in an exercise environment where they rebuilt a scene with wooden assets.
So yeah, most if it lacks detail because most of it are wooden or cardboard fakes.
From the screenshots, it looks less visually stylized than Absolution. A bit bland, honestly.
Yeah was going to post that.
Absolution had much better graphics. What happened to their new Glacier Engine?
Those are PC shots but i highly doubt the new Hitman will look THAT much better on PC.
This game plays absolutely terrible, here is why:
- Lifeless levels. Maybe static is the correct term here.
- Sandbox feels utterly weird. I am not good with words, so I find this hard to describe. It's almost as if they were created by modders, not by the devs.
- I don't really understand how Instinct works now. They should have gotten rid of it entirely.
- Why on earth are all the people highlighted when Instinct is activated? An assassination simulator where you know exactly where the target is? Seriously?
- Graphics (I am really not too picky, but this is not enough for the year 2016). Draw a weapon in the first mission, framerate will tank hard too.
Let's face it, the full release is just a bit more than a month away, this game is not getting any better. I feel so sad right now, considering how much I wanted this game to be good.
I much preferred Absolution to this, and this must mean something...
- Lifeless levels. Maybe static is the correct term here.
- Sandbox feels utterly weird. I am not good with words, so I find this hard to describe. It's almost as if they were created by modders, not by the devs.
- I don't really understand how Instinct works now. They should have gotten rid of it entirely.
- Why on earth are all the people highlighted when Instinct is activated? An assassination simulator where you know exactly where the target is? Seriously?
- Graphics (I am really not too picky, but this is not enough for the year 2016). Draw a weapon in the first mission, framerate will tank hard too.
Let's face it, the full release is just a bit more than a month away, this game is not getting any better. I feel so sad right now, considering how much I wanted this game to be good.
I much preferred Absolution to this, and this must mean something...
graywolf323
Member
I pre-ordered the digital version last fall on Amazon expressly in order to get into the beta and I still haven't gotten a code yet :-/
DOWN
Banned
Yeah was going to post that.
Absolution had much better graphics. What happened to their new Glacier Engine?
Those are PC shots but i highly doubt the new Hitman will look THAT much better on PC.
I guess the linearity made it easier.
I've said it before that I don't understand why all of Square's western developers are allowed to make these visually subpar engines. Why does every team they have make their own engine when none of them are industry competitive? Take a page from Frostbite's book tbh
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Just on this point: I very much doubt this is a recent build.
Chezzymann
Member
This whole pre ordering to get access to a beta is getting really annoying. Is this a new trend?
Not really no.
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
Absolution looked fantastic, and I'm pretty sure that the engine Eidos Montreal are using for Deus Ex: Mankind Divided is a modified version of IO's Glacier Engine.
This game plays absolutely terrible, here is why:
- Lifeless levels
- Sandbox feels utterly weird. I am not good with words, so I find this hard to describe. It's almost as if they were created by modders, not by the devs.
- I don't really understand how Instinct works now. They should have gotten rid of it entirely.
- Why on earth are all the people highlighted when Instinct is activated? An assassination simulator where you know exactly where the target is? Seriously?
- Graphics (I am really not too picky, but this is not enough for the year 2015). Draw a weapon in the first mission, framerate will tank hard too.
Let's face it, the full release is just a bit more than a month away, this game is not getting any better. I feel so sad right now, considering how much I wanted this game to be good.
I much preferred Absolution to this, and this must mean something...
Weird. To me this beta is already better than all of absolution.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Nah.
More_Badass
Member
Have you played the previous games? That's Hitman. It's not an assassination simulator. It's a stealth puzzler. You almost always knew where your target was.
Messofanego
Banned
This game plays absolutely terrible, here is why:
- Lifeless levels. Maybe static is the correct term here.
- Sandbox feels utterly weird. I am not good with words, so I find this hard to describe. It's almost as if they were created by modders, not by the devs.
- I don't really understand how Instinct works now. They should have gotten rid of it entirely.
- Why on earth are all the people highlighted when Instinct is activated? An assassination simulator where you know exactly where the target is? Seriously?
- Graphics (I am really not too picky, but this is not enough for the year 2016). Draw a weapon in the first mission, framerate will tank hard too.
Let's face it, the full release is just a bit more than a month away, this game is not getting any better. I feel so sad right now, considering how much I wanted this game to be good.
I much preferred Absolution to this, and this must mean something...
I haven't played this beta but I find it odd that someone would think Absolution is better.
In all the Hitman games, you can know exactly where the target is. The location of the target is not the important part, it's how you dispatch of him/her.
Dick Justice
Banned
Most of Absolution's locations have that stylized look. This one looks like it's going for a simpler approach. While you can say that it's due to the larger environments, there's also a generational gap in terms of hardware (at least on consoles).
Actually, I remember hearing that the old art director (who got promoted to game director of Absolution) left after the last game, so I'm assuming that's the primary reason.
Yes I did. I loved Blood Money to death.
The location of the target was almost always known, but there was still something to it when you first discovered the target, even if it was right at the beginning of the level.
I was really tired while playing the beta today and will give it another chance tomorrow.
Daffy Duck
Member
I'm going to wait until the reviews come in for this, was looking forward to it.
Isn't the beta under NDA?
Isn't the beta under NDA?
SJRB
Gold Member
Noting in this "beta" even resembles a puzzle though. There is no challenge to be found, unless you set arbitrary rules for yourself like "no disguises" or "only move though the level walking backwards".
The final test mission intro even tells you that it'll be extremely difficult, but in reality you can finish it in less than 5 minutes with minimal effort.
The design, gameplay, AI, everything feels bland. I know they're tutorial missions, but I cannot for the life of me figure out why they thought this would be good beta content. They should've used the Paris mission, which looks infinitely more interesting.
This thing leaves an utterly mediocre impression of a game that will probably actually be quite good.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
It is the tutorial though, isn't it?
Kwansu Dudes
Member
I think it'd be more fair to compare each tutorial level set on Easy/Normal.
If this is how Professional mode ends up being, then I'll use a garrote and strangle myself.
keltickennedy
Member
This is not a beta to try out content and call it a day. This is a server test, first and foremost. There are less variables to consider in the tutorial missions for their tests than the Showstopper level.
Evolved1
make sure the pudding isn't too soggy but that just ruins everything
I like it. More freedom than Absolution. Second test is actually a little tricky in some ways.
However, reading the challenges is like looking at the answers before doing a crossword puzzle. So I didn't open that menu on the second scenario. Also, unlike Absolution, game plays fine without instinct. In the previous, it was part of the disguise mechanism, and the game was practically broken without it. NOT the case here. Plays just fine, better even. You still have the map with target.
However, reading the challenges is like looking at the answers before doing a crossword puzzle. So I didn't open that menu on the second scenario. Also, unlike Absolution, game plays fine without instinct. In the previous, it was part of the disguise mechanism, and the game was practically broken without it. NOT the case here. Plays just fine, better even. You still have the map with target.
DOWN
Banned
No NDA
keltickennedy
Member
Awesome. Can't wait to get home and start messing around with it.
This game plays absolutely terrible, here is why:
- Lifeless levels. Maybe static is the correct term here.
- Sandbox feels utterly weird. I am not good with words, so I find this hard to describe. It's almost as if they were created by modders, not by the devs.
- I don't really understand how Instinct works now. They should have gotten rid of it entirely.
- Why on earth are all the people highlighted when Instinct is activated? An assassination simulator where you know exactly where the target is? Seriously?
- Graphics (I am really not too picky, but this is not enough for the year 2016). Draw a weapon in the first mission, framerate will tank hard too.
Let's face it, the full release is just a bit more than a month away, this game is not getting any better. I feel so sad right now, considering how much I wanted this game to be good.
I much preferred Absolution to this, and this must mean something...
Saying that "the game is not getting better" when you only played what are basically tutorial levels is like judging Blood Money on the "Death of a Showman" level.