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[remember_spinal]

My only issues is they need to make other style of games. They make quality content there is no denying that but many of their games end up with a generic feel after a bit. I’m just NOW playing God of War 2018 because 3rd person narrative genre was really tapped hard for a long time and tbh wore me out.

Naw, let them specialize in one thing that no one else is doing or capable of doing. You can get AA games from other publishers

 

[remember_spinal]

"nothing really impressive has come out for current gen only outside of Demon’s Souls and Ratchet and Clank" - you

this is false

Yeah, Returnal is not AAA, its a good AA game

I bought it and played it at launch, its fine.

 

[akaFullmetal]

I think Sony has done well to bring games with the challenges that game companies have been having with COVID and delays, console shortages.
Compared to Microsoft they have been shooting themselves in the foot with delays, not bringing any big aaa games such as in 2022. I hope they finally start churning games at a consistent rate after red fall and hopefully no delay with starfield ( I doubt it though).
Once we have all 3 companies releasing games we are swimming but if one of the 3 struggles we feel it.

 

[deriks]

 

[Mr Moose]

I'm not, because these games are dumbed down to appeal to casual players.
making them the video game equivalent of the average braindead Marvel movie.

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[rofif]

Classic, single player gaming is what I live for.
More uncharted 4 is never a bad thing

 

[SoloKingRobert]

Destruction AllStars?

 

[remember_spinal]

Destruction AllStars?

 

[bentanchorbolt]

Naw, let them specialize in one thing that no one else is doing or capable of doing. You can get AA games from other publishers

The gap between SIE games and marquee games from 3rd party publishers isn’t as wide as some people seem to think. Sony might be the best as these specific style of games, though.

 

[Antwix]

I'm not, because these games are dumbed down to appeal to casual players.
making them the video game equivalent of the average braindead Marvel movie.

Exactly. I enjoy playing video games as opposed to playing movies.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Just looks very similar to village

It still looks good though.

I mean GoW:R wasn't a massive upgrade over GOW2018, other than resolution. This current gen has a lot of good looking games so far but nothing that seems to completely blow me away as being the potential of next-gen.

I actually think Sony is slipping a bit on visuals, but maybe that's just the nature of the hardware at this point in time. I hope there's more potential there, but maybe we've seen kind of what we're going to get for the rest of the gen.

I don't really mind that much because games already look damn good regardless.

 

[remember_spinal]

The gap between SIE games and marquee games from 3rd party publishers isn’t as wide as some people seem to think. Sony might be the best as these specific style of games, though.

How often do those publishers put those games out though? Even thinking about last year or the year before, how many ‘blockbuster’ 3rd party games released?

I feel like the closest thing last year was plague tale which is literally an indie game

 

[bluecowboys]

over two years into the generation now and it really does feel like nothing really impressive has come out for current gen only outside of Demon’s Souls and Ratchet and Clank (games with actual characters and stories). The closest thing so far has been TLOU Part 1 and Horizon, and the former is a remake and the latter is cross-gen, but yet they are still the best looking games of 2022.

My point is, if not SIE who’s really making games on that level, with that polish, fidelity, animation, and still has competent gameplay? Rockstar is up there but they only make one game per generation now, its hard to even consider them when they don’t even have a consistent release cadence anymore. They launch games as rarely as the consoles.

There’s tons of developers making boomer shooters, metroidvanias, diablo likes, zelda knocks off, and then theres WRPG’s like witcher or bethesda game that while large have the same ugly stiff animations, bad controls…etc

Its telling that the only real ‘next gen’ thing people have to look forward to is Spider-man 2, which isn’t even something im super excited about tbh but we’re at a point where it feels like only one publisher is still really focused on big budget, polished single player games.

People can say they want more AA or indie stuff until they’re blue in the face but the last 3 platform showcases have been underwhelming. People want big current gen titles already, people want to see something exciting. Not ports and remasters

I prefer games that try to be games and not movie/cinematic experience that can be finished within a week sorry

Give me Gears, Sea of thieves, Halo, WoW, and Counter strike over all Sony first party games.

 

[remember_spinal]

It still looks good though.

I mean GoW:R wasn't a massive upgrade over GOW2018, other than resolution. This current gen has a lot of good looking games so far but nothing that seems to completely blow me away as being the potential of next-gen.

I actually think Sony is slipping a bit on visuals, but maybe that's just the nature of the hardware at this point in time. I hope there's more potential there, but maybe we've seen kind of what we're going to get for the rest of the gen.

I don't really mind that much because games already look damn good regardless.

Not after Horizon they aren’t.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Like - Demon's Souls looks good - but I think people are vastly overrating it as some next gen experience.

It's not THAT special looking, especially given the confined scale.

 

[remember_spinal]

Like - Demon's Souls looks good - but I think people are vastly overrating it as some next gen experience.

It's not THAT special looking, especially given the confined scale.

Put Demon’s Souls next to Elden Ring and they look an entire generation apart though

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Not after Horizon they aren’t.

Still a cross-gen game though. It looks great, well polished, etc. But I dunno, still comes across as more of the same (just better).

 

[Mr Moose]

They've nailed the single player and driving games, hopefully some good MP games will come out from them, maybe with Fractions or whatever it's called though I don't really like 3rd person pew pews.
MS have nailed the driving games, hopefully they can do the same with their future single player games.

 

[remember_spinal]

maybe with Fractions or whatever it's called though I don't really like 3rd person pew pews.

It will only be a fraction of what naughty dog is capable of this gen due to being multiplayer

 

[bentanchorbolt]

How often do those publishers put those games out though? Even thinking about last year or the year before, how many ‘blockbuster’ 3rd party games released?

I feel like the closest thing last year was plague tale which is literally an indie game

Most publishers don’t have as many studios as SIE and many of the ones that do focus primarily on churning out yearly or bi-yearly releases of their franchises.

Anyway, my original point is that it would be nice for Sony branch out and make other style of video games. Their studios are obviously very talented. You can make an AAA blockbuster that isn’t a 3rd person game.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Put Demon’s Souls next to Elden Ring and they look an entire generation apart though

I'm not sure I agree on the whole. DS is more consistent looking, sure. Has higher res textures and better models/lighting overall.

But....Elden Ring has some really stunning areas, like Stormveil Castle and Lyndell Capital.

DS didn't blow me away to the point that I though ER looked a gen apart.

 

[Mr Moose]

It will only be a fraction of what naughty dog is capable of this gen due to being multiplayer

Fuck, it's Factions isn't it? lol

I'm not sure I agree on the whole. DS is more consistent looking, sure. Has higher res textures and better models/lighting overall.

But....Elden Ring has some really stunning areas, like Stormveil Castle and Lyndell Capital.

DS didn't blow me away to the point that I though ER looked a gen apart.

On consoles, graphically? I don't think it's that close between them, though I am only going by what I have seen of Demon's Souls, it's much better looking than Elden Ring imo but ER is open world.

 

[feynoob]

Starfield does not look current gen, sorry. Hellblade 2 is what im waiting for on xbox to blow us away

Remember kids, gameplay is a sin. Only graphics is what matters about video games.

 

[Yoboman]

AAA production values
Focus on compelling narrative and story
Not littered with DLC, MTX and pay to win mechanics
Polished and feature complete on day one of release

Its becoming a rarer and rarer commodity so I appreciate we tend to get at least 1-2 of these games a year from Sony

Others who deserve credit for continuing to push this vision of gaming are From Software, Capcom, Rockstar (to an extent) and Nintendo (at least with Zelda). CDPR were another of the chosen ones but really screwed up with the Cyberpunk launch

Its getting to be a smaller and smaller pool every year. I think the record breaking sales of games like Elden Ring, Ragnarok and now Hogwarts show gamers are starving for this type of content and are now showing up in droves on single products to get their fix

 

[hyperbertha]

Are we just pretending that Fable, Starfield, and Elder Scrolls VI aren't going to happen? Or are those not "AAAAAA" enough titles? Also, Halo Infinite was great, except that they didn't release promised single-player features, and they butchered multi-player. But the single-player campaign they made was on point.

This is such a delusional post. What reason do you have to expect an aaa quality title from Forza devs? And Bethesda games are always a gen behind the competition they are not showstoppers compared to polished aaa games.

 

[remember_spinal]

Remember kids, gameplay is a sin. Only graphics is what matters about video games.

Why does it have to be either or, we’re in a completely new console generation, its not too much to ask for a leap in graphical fidelity. Or else you might as well ahve stayed on ps4/xone

 

[Yoboman]

Are we just pretending that Fable, Starfield, and Elder Scrolls VI aren't going to happen? Or are those not "AAAAAA" enough titles? Also, Halo Infinite was great, except that they didn't release promised single-player features, and they butchered multi-player. But the single-player campaign they made was on point.

This is kind of like asking for credit on an assignment you haven't handed in

 

[remember_spinal]

AAA production values
Focus on compelling narrative and story
Not littered with DLC, MTX and pay to win mechanics
Polished and feature complete on day one of release

Its becoming a rarer and rarer commodity so I appreciate we tend to get at least 1-2 of these games a year from Sony

Others who deserve credit for continuing to push this vision of gaming are From Software, Capcom, Rockstar (to an extent) and Nintendo (at least with Zelda). CDPR were another of the chosen ones but really screwed up with the Cyberpunk launch

Its getting to be a smaller and smaller pool every year. I think the record breaking sales of games like Elden Ring, Ragnarok and now Hogwarts show gamers are starving for this type of content and are now showing up in droves on single products to get their fix

100% agree

 

[Spaceman292]

Are we just pretending that Fable, Starfield, and Elder Scrolls VI aren't going to happen? Or are those not "AAAAAA" enough titles? Also, Halo Infinite was great, except that they didn't release promised single-player features, and they butchered multi-player. But the single-player campaign they made was on point.

Fable and Elder Scrolls barely even exist

 

[Warablo]

I guess only third person action story games are considered AAAA.

 

[nial]

Astro's Playroom will still outsell any of those. /s

 

[bentanchorbolt]

I guess only third person action story games are considered AAAA.

People want comfort food gaming. It doesn’t have to push the boundaries or do anything new. It just has to be good.

 

[remember_spinal]

And someone brought up the MCU as a pejorative (as tends to happen in sony game threads) but i actually agree with the comparison.

Up until MCU who was really making big blockbuster tightly woven super hero movies? We got sprinkles of it with raimi spider-man, and Nolan dark knight but comic book movies for years were a mess.

Then Marvel brought it all together in a very big and entertaining way and only because it got so popular and well made that people began to have a problem with it. If it weren’t for marvel we’d still be relying on fox and sony to make good comic movies, stuff like, dark Phoenix, fantastic 4 and Morbius would be what we had to look forward to.

Because marvel/disney has been kicking everyones ass do you now see Warner Bros investing big bucks and trying to get their acts together with bringing in James Gunn and the like.

 

[remember_spinal]

Fable and Elder Scrolls barely even exist

Well, they’re right that Elder Scrolls 6 will be a good looking current gen title because its most likely releasing next gen

 

[Kenpachii]

can't wait to play that game on the PS8.

 

[nial]

that can be finished within a week sorry

So you just want multiplayer?

 

[Astral Dog]

I don't judge a videogame's quality based on the production values or the graphics,and most of Sony games wouldn't even be on my favorites list

But yeah,its good they produce these types of games as well ,for the audience that loves them,they are quite flashy

 

[remember_spinal]

that can be finished within a week sorry

Games aren’t worse because they have endings

 

[Yoboman]

I guess only third person action story games are considered AAAA.

Who is making AAA single player FPS games? Its not Sony's wheelhouse, but the devs who have had success there aren't doing it anymore

 

[bitbydeath]

I prefer games that try to be games and not movie/cinematic experience that can be finished within a week sorry

Give me Gears, Sea of thieves, Halo, WoW, and Counter strike over all Sony first party games.

Gears and Halo fits into that category, unless you’re talking about the MP side only, in which case you just prefer MP over SP because it never ends.

 

[feynoob]

Why does it have to be either or, we’re in a completely new console generation, its not too much to ask for a leap in graphical fidelity. Or else you might as well ahve stayed on ps4/xone

Because technology isnt just about graphics. Its about you push the system in other departments.
The thing about starfield is that it focuses more on gameplay, which is exploration and freedom for the player. Usually these stuff are different than graphics, just like the medium 2 side camera view. Even though that game isnt AAA.

Starfield world is massive, so we need to see the actual change it will bring in to the industry. Skyrim wasnt graphic great, but it changed the landscape of open world games. Same with gtav.

 

[Perrott]

Are we just pretending that Fable, Starfield, and Elder Scrolls VI aren't going to happen?

Oh I'm sure all three of them are going to happen, yeah... only that by 2027 in the case of Fable and Elder Scrolls

 

[remember_spinal]

Because technology isnt just about graphics. Its about you push the system in other departments.
The thing about starfield is that it focuses more on gameplay, which is exploration and freedom for the player. Usually these stuff are different than graphics, just like the medium 2 side camera view. Even though that game isnt AAA.

Starfield world is massive, so we need to see the actual change it will bring in to the industry. Skyrim wasnt graphic great, but it changed the landscape of open world games. Same with gtav.

I’m not really looking for a pitch for starfield here. I’m well aware its a big open world game, there will be others this gen that look far better

 

[Majukun]

I'm not, personally get bored really easy by heavely scripted, narrative focused games.

 

[clarky]

Classic, single player gaming is what I live for.
More uncharted 4 is never a bad thing

Uncharted 4 was gash bored me to death.

On the other hand Uncharted 2 has yet to be bested.

 

[remember_spinal]

I'm not, personally get bored really easy by heavely scripted, narrative focused games.

So don’t play them? There are plenty of devs putting out games that don’t have emphasis on narrative and high production values. In fact, thats what this thread is about. There are far more people not making games like SIE than there are. Thats why im glad they are still making them

I used to rely on japanese devs for big single player story focused action games, now if i had to do that I’d be shit out of luck. Even Kojima is developing his games mostly in conjunction with SIE

If sony stopped making these kind of games almost no one would be making them, not without other caveats like mtx or season passes attached to them.

 

[bluecowboys]

Gears and Halo fits into that category, unless you’re talking about the MP side only, in which case you just prefer MP over SP because it never ends.

WoW and sea of thieves have a campaign as well. Sure its online but still counts.

 

[bluecowboys]

Games aren’t worse because they have endings

It is if you can finish it really fast. There are 52 weeks in a year and a game that lasts one week won't keep me engage on a platform/service.

 

[bitbydeath]

WoW and sea of thieves have a campaign as well. Sure its online but still counts.

You could say the same about Fortnite, they’re all still MP games.

 

[hemo memo]

I think you forgot a couple of A’s there.