This annoys me more than the abuse itself. Most of the thread is dismissive, as in "it's the internet, of course you'll be verbally abused. It's your fault for caring."
It's not just part of the problem, it's enabling it.
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I was told to 'kill myself with a gun' tonight while playing Rocket League
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It's not just part of the problem, it's enabling it.
rochellepaws
Member
The toxic community has really taken over in Rocket League over the past few months, it's difficult to play it nowadays without encountering it. In unranked games players on the losing team will leave, often within the first minute and in ranked the insults will fly.
The worst part is its always between teammates which creates an odd dynamic of feeling more in competition with your allies than your opponents.
As someone who has never had an xbox, doesn't play fps and avoids f2p I've probably been sheltered towards these sort of communities before but I'd have to say what the Rocket League community is like right now is the worst I've ever encountered. I'd definitely not recommend it to anyone sensitive to that sort of behaviour. I've had to quit it as a result. I enjoy the game but don't enjoy being told to "uninstall", "drown myself", "die in a fire" etc. The report feature seemingly does nothing either so time to bail.
Which is a shame because the community was quite reasonable in its first few months, plenty of sarcastic "What a save!!" comments but not the sort of animosity you see now.
The worst part is its always between teammates which creates an odd dynamic of feeling more in competition with your allies than your opponents.
As someone who has never had an xbox, doesn't play fps and avoids f2p I've probably been sheltered towards these sort of communities before but I'd have to say what the Rocket League community is like right now is the worst I've ever encountered. I'd definitely not recommend it to anyone sensitive to that sort of behaviour. I've had to quit it as a result. I enjoy the game but don't enjoy being told to "uninstall", "drown myself", "die in a fire" etc. The report feature seemingly does nothing either so time to bail.
Which is a shame because the community was quite reasonable in its first few months, plenty of sarcastic "What a save!!" comments but not the sort of animosity you see now.
There's a reason many people just don't engage in MP chat anymore. I'll be honest though watching video's of kids being little assholes and then getting crazy mad when someone F's with them is oddly therapeutic.
blacklotus
Member
Best course of action is to reply like:
If it's voice chat: "With what type of gun?" and carry out conversation really seriously.
If it's written chat: "
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If it's voice chat: "With what type of gun?" and carry out conversation really seriously.
If it's written chat: "
"Just block communications from non-friends in the Xbox settings.
qa_engineer
Member
Welcome to the wonderful world of social interactions over the internet.
An idea to combat these kind of behaviours and taking advantage of the Steam account is that if you are banned from a multiplayer game for a bad behaviour it will affect that you won't be able to connect to any multiplayer aspect from all the other games that your account has. Obviously this woun't be easy to do because it will be great changes into the steam system but the punishment may discourage a lot of people from the bad attitudes.
I do think being sensitive to every little obnoxious troll is unhealthy. You only have a limited number of fucks to give. So you should only give your fucks for fuck-worthy situations.
Someone telling me to eat shit and die after losing a game isn't worth worrying about. Now, there's a big difference between that and genuine online bullying that persists and can cause harm.
One situation is worth giving a fuck about, the other isn't. If you give out fucks like they're ice cream at a fucking summer camp, you're going to drive yourself crazy and only harm yourself. Giving a fuck is letting the troll get to you. It's basically doing exactly what the troll wants.
Just let it slide and don't reply. It's really the biggest dis' you can give to a troll. Being overly sensitive about every little insult from anonymous strangers is even smaller than launching the insults in the first place.
Again, this is different from persistent online bullying. I'm only referring to one-time isolated situations. They should be dismissed because, quite frankly, they shouldn't matter to you if you have a good head on your shoulders.
afternoon delight
Member
I actually interact with way way way way more positive people than outright negative clowns.
OP, find them and humiliate them in front of their teammates. Nothing says 'moving on' like the sweet taste of revenge.
Lightning Count
Member
Shit like this is why I very rarely play competitive online multiplayer, got enoygh depression in my life without getting abuse from random strangers.
Darryl M R
Member
I owned a PS4 since launch and I have not ran into racism or bigotry yet online. Actually people on GAF complain now that more people don't use their mic and I enjoy that. When I owned a 360 I use to hear kids yell out the n-word and f-word so much.
Now the worst I run into is some kid playing his shitty music in a lobby.
I don't think there is any change for the people that do this and say that it is "just trolling/joking." I do not wish them well in life and I hope that their toxic actions reflect a toxic community they have to live in.
Now the worst I run into is some kid playing his shitty music in a lobby.
I don't think there is any change for the people that do this and say that it is "just trolling/joking." I do not wish them well in life and I hope that their toxic actions reflect a toxic community they have to live in.
"Jokes on you, I'm using a knife!"
Latvian Hitman
Member
Reminds me of the "good ole days" playing Halo 2 back before there was such a thing as party chat. Sitting there in the pregame lobby as it filled up, listening to all the trash talk that would happen back and forth. Then the game happens. Then the postgame lobby trash talk...
I know it's not for everybody, but I always liked it. Felt like more was at stake when it was that way. Now, most everyone's in a private party which, by the way, is how I'd recommend the OP to roll. There's no good reason to have to endure insult and injury from other people if that's not your thing.
I know it's not for everybody, but I always liked it. Felt like more was at stake when it was that way. Now, most everyone's in a private party which, by the way, is how I'd recommend the OP to roll. There's no good reason to have to endure insult and injury from other people if that's not your thing.
I miss those days too. Party chat ruined some of the fun.
Darryl M R
Member
Now that was fun times. Halo and Gears.
"Oh they talking shit? Okay let's just wait until the game is done."
*game ended*
"What was that you were saying? You got wrecked scrub."
Mufausa The 3rd
Member
Best you not play Overwatch then
My thoughts exactly lol..
Latvian Hitman
Member
I loved the way it raised the stakes. I still remember individual games of Halo 2 and 3 from as much as 10 years ago. The epic comebacks, the nail-biters and the feeling in the post-game lobby afterwards. As much as I enjoy games like Battlefield or Overwatch, I don't even remember individual games from last week, really. Not saying that private parties are the only reason why, but I think it's part of it.
Halo, Gears, and Call of Duty were big for me because of this. Back in the mid 2000s everybody was using a mic. Felt like you were bonding with your teammates. Now console shooters just feel dead to me because of party chat and even a lot of games not offering open chat. I never even add anybody to form a party with since I don't remember any of my teammates after the game. Glad to have experienced the console shooter community back when it felt like I was playing with real people.
I've never had a problem muting players I didn't want to hear so I'm surprised why people on here couldn't just do the same. Then again, there are plenty of gaffers who list a major reason of going digital is not having to switch discs.
To say more than I did last night.
I have had RL players send me messages on Xbox and threaten to put my username on Reddit to be inundated with messages from people that they know. It didn't happen of course, but that threat has happened 3-4 times.
Voice messages that were very threatening. People blaming team mates for being terrible.
For whatever reason, that game makes people bonkers. Maybe it's because there is such a reliance on team-mates to make things happen. I don't know. But for whatever reason a bunch of chump-tier players (I never rose anywhere in the rankings that mattered) were super aggro the entire time.
I dumped it because it was the opposite of fun after a while.
I have had RL players send me messages on Xbox and threaten to put my username on Reddit to be inundated with messages from people that they know. It didn't happen of course, but that threat has happened 3-4 times.
Voice messages that were very threatening. People blaming team mates for being terrible.
For whatever reason, that game makes people bonkers. Maybe it's because there is such a reliance on team-mates to make things happen. I don't know. But for whatever reason a bunch of chump-tier players (I never rose anywhere in the rankings that mattered) were super aggro the entire time.
I dumped it because it was the opposite of fun after a while.
What I simply meant is if someone posts something on your wall, say Kill Yourself, with a Gun, chances are some of your friends, family, etc will see it before you can deal with it.
Bullying is a lot more than a random audio clip of a dude that can be shut off forever, at the click of a button.
I'm sorry but abusing on MP chat--while distasteful to some, is too easily mitigated with the existing measures.
Also personally I find people who take offense to cusses weird. They are just words: hollow showcases of one's anger. I get it not everybody has the same thickness of skin. But life is too nice to sit back and mope about rando lowlife #2326393 who asked you to kill yourself.
If someone did that to me, I'd be like 'Just like you did a minute ago?" --then again I like banter, and how do I put this. Nobody should have the kind of control over you wherein they ask you to kill yourself and it affects you.
And all sports has banter, or sledging or verbal attacks if you may. Human beings are far more rank than we'd like to accept. The quicker you accept that and build a defense against it, the happier you'll be.
Usually it's not the other team that is saying this type of toxic shit. it's your teammates. I think it is a lot more easier to ignore the other team vs teammates who you are trying to work with.
valkillmore
Member
Reporting abuse works
via reddit. Thought it would be a worthy bump, as even I have questioned whether reporting abusive behavior not just in this game but in many competitive MP titles actually results in penalties for the offenders. Again, Psyonix continue to be awesome.
via reddit. Thought it would be a worthy bump, as even I have questioned whether reporting abusive behavior not just in this game but in many competitive MP titles actually results in penalties for the offenders. Again, Psyonix continue to be awesome.
7DollarHagane
Banned
The real question is if someone had shouted this at you while driving because they felt you weren't going fast enough, would you feel you could no longer drive because of rude people saying hateful things?
Because I'm sure worse things have been said and done over simply not driving fast enough or small oversights in traffic rules.
Rude and hateful people exist. They always will. Some of them play videogames. They always will.
Mute and move on. It barely deserves a moment of your time or consideration.
Because I'm sure worse things have been said and done over simply not driving fast enough or small oversights in traffic rules.
Rude and hateful people exist. They always will. Some of them play videogames. They always will.
Mute and move on. It barely deserves a moment of your time or consideration.
Tajaz2426
Psychology PhD from Wikipedia University
Thanks for the info, I don't chat during games, but my 2 sons do and they have been harassed before. They are older of course, as one is 21 and the other is 16. I don't think it matters what age the victim of this type of harassment, so from a father, thank you very much.
YuriLowell
Member
Happened to me while playing Dota 2 numerous times.
People are assholes.
People are assholes.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
I love getting messages like this as a fighting game player. They almost always come after I manhandle someone. Gives me a good laugh
mindatlarge
Member
Some people online are like this. I'd say it was due to a lack of maturity, though I think it stems more from anger issues. If someone lashes out like this after you beat them, try and take it as a compliment of sorts. In the sense that your skills made them flip out, and if possible, try and laugh it off.
Try and not take it personally, but I could see how this could be upsetting coming completely out of left field and with not a ton of experience online. The best thing to do is remain silent, report them and move on. There's nothing negativity hates more than being ignored.
Try and not take it personally, but I could see how this could be upsetting coming completely out of left field and with not a ton of experience online. The best thing to do is remain silent, report them and move on. There's nothing negativity hates more than being ignored.
The Hermit
Member
That's the same behaviour I see during teammates in soccer here in Brasil, especially when you just know 2 or 3 people.
I suck at soccer but a few friends just want to have fun, problem is there is always an asshole in your team that is super competitive. It the way of the sport and one of the reasons I quit, I am not a very competitive person.
This is basically the same. It's the jocks take on online game.
I suck at soccer but a few friends just want to have fun, problem is there is always an asshole in your team that is super competitive. It the way of the sport and one of the reasons I quit, I am not a very competitive person.
This is basically the same. It's the jocks take on online game.
Gravy Boat
Member
I love them too. I never send anything like this but receiving is always hilrious. I really can't see why this would bother someone, or how it can be conflated to bullying. Just block them and move on if it upsets you, but I don't know why you would take stuff like this seriously. Who cares what some dude on PSN or XBL thinks about you.
valkillmore
Member
You're very welcome. I really enjoy being able to interact with others during a match. Sometimes you get hilarious back and forth. Part of the point of me making this thread was, I questioned whether reporting such gross behavior is a fruitless endeavor, and whether I should have reacted at all to what was said. Well it turns out that in Rocket League at least, if you insist on behaving like a fuckhead shitwad, you'll get perm'd. Good on Psyonix.
I worked at a job as a teenager and that's what the bosses called me, never my name.lol. hey white boy, go cut some tomatoes. Hey white boy, take this order.
Anywho, people are always gonna talk shit. I embrace it. Knowing I angered some dipshit by beating them or whatever is good for the soul
7DollarHagane
Banned
How are you enabling it if you mute and report them?
They are literally disabled from speaking with you at that point.
Growing up in the inner city as one of the few white dudes I just ignored it. However that shouldnt be an excuse. Imagine if this was the other way around....
Robobandit
Member
The fact that everyone says this is sad. Covering up/avoiding the problem doesn't make it go away. People should be permabanned for the first offense for shit like this. Same goes for harassing people sexually or otherwise.This shouldn't be tolerated as 'expected' or 'acceptable' behavior.
There should be a way to report assholes using voice that includes a recorded sample of what they said. Once the content is confirmed, they should be permanently removed from the game on the first offense.
I wish the reporting in Rocket League had a longer chat history. By the time I get to report people they could have said a bunch of things and then it's not included in the chat log (but I really like they they include the chat log, was a pleasant surprise the first time I reported someone).
I've encountered a couple of bad cases of racism against other players who happen to have foreign sounding names. It's just fucking disgusting. I wish Sony would take greater action against these players.. I don't know if they get banned or even if anything happens to them at all, but as far as I'm concerned if you blatantly racially abuse someone it should seriously be a case of getting your PS4 blocked from PSN permanently. Need to treat these people as brutally as they treat others (hell take the chat log to police..).
I've encountered a couple of bad cases of racism against other players who happen to have foreign sounding names. It's just fucking disgusting. I wish Sony would take greater action against these players.. I don't know if they get banned or even if anything happens to them at all, but as far as I'm concerned if you blatantly racially abuse someone it should seriously be a case of getting your PS4 blocked from PSN permanently. Need to treat these people as brutally as they treat others (hell take the chat log to police..).
Infinite_Daremo
Member
This type of stuff doesn't bother me. Clearly that person is already butthurt so replying in an 'i don't care' tone or a 'condescending' one is the best use of time here, keep it civil though. But after the initial response just bail, the fact they can't argue with you pisses them off the most.
The only thing to get to me is int'ing. Throwing a game which you're usually stick in till it ends is just toxic.
The only thing to get to me is int'ing. Throwing a game which you're usually stick in till it ends is just toxic.
This. I turn off voice and text chat, relying only in quick chat messages.
Psychological Intellect
Banned
Pretty much.
Fox Mulder
Member
Online multiplayer is a toxic shithole, in every game. There's a reason people use party chat.