And the people wanting P5P to be on the NX are pathetic port beggars who simply want a mainline Persona title on Nintendo hardware. Let's not say childish things when people have presented proper arguments.So they don't hurt Vita fans' feelings.
Like, the writing is on the wall. The Vita is no PS3 or PSP, it never was (what's the highest selling Vita game at right now ? 400 something k ?) and Atlus never liked the system very much (literally the only internal games they've made for it are P4G and Dancing all night, the letter started out as a farmed out title).
The idea that it would be the ideal platform to receive a P5P in the usual 3+ years it takes is utterly ludicrous.
I'm more annoyed with some people adamant with flat out discounting the Vita given the current trends. I don't disagree that the NX can be a viable platform in the years to come but I also believe that the Vita will still be doing reasonably well.Even if the NX isn't a success, it isn't as if there a lot of options, yeah? The Vita is the Vita and it still got/gets support to an extent.
Than again, if following this thread has taught me one thing, it is that the console/handheld industry in Japan is a mess. I wouldn't expect anything at this point.
Even if the NX isn't a success, it isn't as if there a lot of options, yeah? The Vita is the Vita and it still got/gets support to an extent.
Than again, if following this thread has taught me one thing, it is that the console/handheld industry in Japan is a mess. I wouldn't expect anything at this point.
I'm more annoyed with some people adamant with flat out discounting the Vita given the current trends. I don't disagree that the NX can be a viable platform in the years to come but I also believe that the Vita will still be doing reasonably well.
And the people wanting P5P to be on the NX are pathetic port beggars who simply want a mainline Persona title on Nintendo hardware. Let's not say childish things when people have presented proper arguments.
By trends I mean people's reluctance to jump onto next gen. I'm well aware of how the Vita is doing and have already taken that into account.Given the current trends Vita is a system entering soon its 6th year on market, living basically from multiplatforms with other Sony systems, dead at west, with zero big exclusives and facing very soon another handheld from Nintendo.
The low software and hardware sales it has will only keep going lower.
Since I can't detect sarcasm through the internet, I hope your reply isn't serious because I sure as hell wasn't with that sentence.Or perhaps people with a business outlook on the Japanese videogame industry.
By trends I mean people's reluctance to jump onto next gen. I'm well aware of how the Vita is doing and have already taken that into account.
Since I can't detect sarcasm through the internet, I hope your reply isn't serious because I sure as hell wasn't with that sentence.
I fail to see why there even would be a portable version of Persona 5. It would not only be a downgrade but after the incoming rise in their Western sales and solid Japanese sales, I don't see Atlus having a P5P.
So they don't hurt Vita fans' feelings.
Like, the writing is on the wall. The Vita is no PS3 or PSP, it never was (what's the highest selling Vita game at right now ? 400 something k ?) and Atlus never liked the system very much (literally the only internal games they've made for it are P4G and Dancing all night, the letter started out as a farmed out title).
The idea that it would be the ideal platform to receive a P5P in the usual 3+ years it takes is utterly ludicrous.
But NX probably won't be a typical portable device.The idea of Persona 5 getting a portable version is really strange. It's not like every single earlier mainline game in this franchise has gotten a handheld rele-
Y'all are going to be shocked when Sony comes out with the trinity
I think a big problem with Persona 5 on Vita is just the legs of the system. P4G came out early in the console's life and has continued selling surprisingly well for a number of years now, in both west and east, through impressive promotion; sales and things like the anime to boost it.
If a Vita version came out hypothetically in the next couple of years and the console was still alive at that point, would they be able to pull the same off? I'm assuming the console wouldn't last a whole lot longer after it released so such a plan may not be as effective and it would need to sell a lot more up front.
I think P4G was really helped by being such a critically acclaimed game in the console's first year. A lot of people who wouldn't have bought it otherwise gave the series a try based on word of mouth. I don't think you'd get the same feedback on a handheld in its 7th year on the market.
Is this like when you said DQ11 was going to be a PS4/Vita game?
Is this like when you said DQ11 was going to be a PS4/Vita game and not on 3DS?
Some predictions really need to be quoted for future reference.
And the people wanting P5P to be on the NX are pathetic port beggars who simply want a mainline Persona title on Nintendo hardware. Let's not say childish things when people have presented proper arguments.
There's also the fact that people are prematurely expecting the NX to be a big success. There's also you with that the 3+ year statement. Can you say for certainty that they can't release it in less than 3 years this time? P3P was released a year P4 and P4G was released a year after Catherine. If P-studio starts work on a P5P after finishing all DLC and whatnot of P5, chances are they won't need 3+ years.
Feel free to reply to my arguments instead of making one off statements. This is the second time you've done this. I'm already aware of the mistakes I've made and have admitted them and I don't intend on repeating myself a third time.I remember you from the Monster Hunter threads. Cough.
BY UNITS BY MEAN ERROR %
01 Ryng_tolu 18.353 01 Ryng_tolu 4,81%
02 DKHF 28.579 02 DKHF 5,39%
03 Psycho_Man 38.353 03 Dr Wong 6,98%
04 Kanann 38.353 04 casiopao 7,25%
05 astrogamer 41.353 05 Kanann 7,29%
06 casiopao 41.781 06 astrogamer 8,78%
07 Dr Wong 43.579 07 duckroll 12,94%
08 Akki 46.421 08 Psycho_Man 13,52%
09 Fisico 48.713 09 horuhe 13,99%
10 duckroll 52.353 10 Eolz 14,24%
11 Bruno MB 53.353 11 Akki 16,33%
12 Eolz 57.353 12 random25 16,41%
13 random25 58.353 13 Fisico 16,58%
14 horuhe 59.821 14 Bruno MB 17,59%
15 FluxWaveZ 71.158 15 Jamix012 17,82%
16 Chris1964 73.650 16 u_neek 19,26%
17 Jamix012 79.713 17 FluxWaveZ 19,68%
18 Yeshua 88.353 18 Chris1964 19,97%
19 u_neek 91.421 19 Aters 21,16%
20 Aters 101.421 20 Las7 25,26%
21 orthodoxy1 113.579 21 Lynx_7 25,43%
22 Lynx_7 120.421 22 orthodoxy1 27,70%
23 barybll 144.781 23 barybll 27,90%
24 Las7 188.579 24 Yeshua 28,17%
25 Mr Swine 212.579 25 Mr Swine 39,44%
Famitsu Ryng_tolu Aters barybll Las7 duckroll Fisico random25 u_neek Psycho_Man DKHF Mr Swine casiopao Dr Wong orthodoxy1Chris1964 astrogamer Kanann FluxWaveZ Jamix012 Bruno MB
[PS4] Hardware 96.567 90.000 60.000 75.000 100.000 85.000 82.000 60.000 70.000 90.000 100.000 138.000 88.000 103.000 125.000 78.901 92.000 90.000 80.555 91.000 80.000
[PS4] Persona 5 268.320 260.000 205.000 375.000 450.000 240.000 279.000 250.000 210.000 260.000 290.000 427.000 301.000 305.000 330.000 234.567 240.000 240.000 300.000 321.000 255.000
[PS3] Persona 5 76.534 80.000 75.000 60.000 80.000 89.000 100.000 80.000 70.000 100.000 80.000 89.000 76.000 77.000 100.000 98.765 85.000 80.000 100.000 98.000 100.000
TOTAL ABS. DIFF. 18.353 101.421 144.781 188.579 52.353 48.713 58.353 91.421 38.353 28.579 212.579 41.781 43.579 113.579 73.650 41.353 38.353 71.158 79.713 53.353
MEAN ERROR % 4,81% 21,16% 27,90% 25,26% 12,94% 16,58% 16,41% 19,26% 13,52% 5,39% 39,44% 7,25% 6,98% 27,70% 19,97% 8,78% 7,29% 19,68% 17,82% 17,59%
horuhe Akki Eolz Lynx_7 Yeshua
79.007 65.000 65.000 57.000 80.000
234.655 265.000 243.000 193.000 240.000
67.938 65.000 77.000 71.000 120.000
59.821 46.421 57.353 120.421 88.353
13,99% 16,33% 14,24% 25,43% 28,17%
STATISTICS FAMITSU GAF_AVG MIN MAX CLOSEST BY
[PS4] Hardware 96.567 84.979 57.000 138.000 100.000 Las7
[PS4] Persona 5 268.320 277.929 193.000 450.000 265.000 Akki
[PS3] Persona 5 76.534 84.748 60.000 120.000 77.000 Dr Wong
So they don't hurt Vita fans' feelings.
All this talk about P5P but I think I'd rather see TMSP given another shot on NX. That's the HD game that could really benefit from widening it's audience. Also SMT3P since it's the only mainline entry not on a handheld, I'm a little surprised they never did a 3DS port.
Personally I'm optimistic and don't see all these 3DS and Vita owners disappearing when next generation starts in handheld land but we'll see.
By trends I mean people's reluctance to jump onto next gen. I'm well aware of how the Vita is doing and have already taken that into account.
The idea of Persona 5 getting a portable version is really strange. It's not like every single earlier mainline game in this franchise has gotten a handheld rele-
The handheld versions weren't made because the console ones didn't sell enough. They were made to make even more money off an already finished game. Now that they've long since proven there's a large audience of fans willing to re-buy the games on portable platforms, I don't see why they'd stop. Even an expansion for PS3/PS4 wouldn't change that. FES didn't stop P3P.
39% of those that took a Dengeki survey admitted that their first introduction to the franchise came through one of the portable re-releases. That's a pretty substantial group of people and it may not even be representative of the entire Persona fandom, given I imagine only dedicated fans are going to fill out a magazine questionnaire.
The best selling Vita game is Minecraft at 1 million+ (physical/digital) in Japan. It's literally in the OP lol.
Wait, are people seriously talking about the possibility of P5G on Vita? I doubt if Vita will be still around in 2019. Maybe there will ba an NX version, but we (and Atlus) need to see what it is and how it performs first.
If Atlus is smart enough, they should keep porting their old games onto mobile in anticipation for the inevitable handheldless future. They aren't known as the most business-savvy people though.
A decline in the overall handheld market doesn't necessairily mean a decline for Nintendo though. The total market could decline up to 20% and NX would still basically equal 3DS. Of course it could also decline more, 3DS/Vita was a decline of around 50% but more than half of that was on Sony's end. Nintendo had around a 30% decline while Sony was a staggering 75%.A whole bunch of PSP/DS owners decided to skip out on the next generation of handhelds entirely. It's only reasonable to assume that there's going to be another decline in the 3DS/Vita transition to next gen. Especially with one of the handheld lines ending entirely everyone (including Sony and Nintendo) putting more and more resources into mobile projects.
Persona 5 will probably sell twice as much outside of Japan than in Japan. At this point I'm sure many Japanese companies see the foreign market as more important than the domestic one.
A decline in the overall handheld market doesn't necessairily mean a decline for Nintendo though. The total market could decline up to 20% and NX would still basically equal 3DS. Of course it could also decline more, 3DS/Vita was a decline of around 50% but more than half of that was on Sony's end. Nintendo had around a 30% decline while Sony was a staggering 75%.
That's true. NX also functioning as a HD console could draw in some buyers that 3DS didn't. It'll help when we know exactly what NX is more specifically though.NX is a hybrid, there will be only one Nintendo system to get software support this time. That is something not many take into consideration.
Persona 5 will probably sell twice as much outside of Japan than in Japan. At this point I'm sure many Japanese companies see the foreign market as more important than the domestic one.
The company that has five months between their domestic and foreign release and avoids PC like a plague? Not really.
We are talking about Atlus, right?
The company that has five months between their domestic and foreign release and avoids PC like a plague? Not really.
Doubling will be tough but P5 selling more outside Japan than domestially should probably be expected. P4G and possibly even SMTIV managed that.The company that has five months between their domestic and foreign release and avoids PC like a plague? Not really.
What are the japanese companies that care more about western sales than internal sales? Other than Square-Enix and the platform holders, I'm drawing a blank.