ArkhamFantasy
Member
I wonder how much Horizons japanese dub helped.
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Principate
Saint Titanfall
I think it's going to go great! I missed that new console smell in MC threads. Good or bad it's certainly going to be entertaining. It gotten a bit boring in here with the just how dead is the Japanese traditional gaming industry (So dead),
LifeBrandRobot
Member
They probably didn't want to get too deep into that stuff for their first game. I can see them implementing a lot more MH inspirations in a follow up game. The game director is a big fan of MH after all.
Famitsu Sales: Feb 2017 (Jan 30 - Feb 26)
01./00. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.23} (¥7.800) - 182.762 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.09} (¥5.250) - 142.761 / NEW
03./00. [PS4] Nioh <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.02.09} (¥7.800) - 135.713 / NEW
04./00. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.02.23} (¥8.600) - 95.222 / NEW
05./00. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.02.23} (¥7.600) - 84.933 / NEW
Top 5
PS4 - 3
3DS - 1
PSV - 1
SOFTWARE
Square Enix - 381.000
Bandai Namco Games - 273.000
Nintendo - 253.000
HARDWARE
01./00. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.23} (¥7.800) - 182.762 / NEW
02./00. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.09} (¥5.250) - 142.761 / NEW
03./00. [PS4] Nioh <RPG> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.02.09} (¥7.800) - 135.713 / NEW
04./00. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.02.23} (¥8.600) - 95.222 / NEW
05./00. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.02.23} (¥7.600) - 84.933 / NEW
Top 5
PS4 - 3
3DS - 1
PSV - 1
SOFTWARE
Square Enix - 381.000
Bandai Namco Games - 273.000
Nintendo - 253.000
HARDWARE
Code:
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System | This Month | Last Month | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD | LTD |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| PS4 # | 140.068 | 312.420 | 109.867 | 452.488 | 303.051 | 4.374.104 |
| 3DS # | 114.985 | 355.816 | 79.526 | 470.801 | 339.729 | 22.382.214 |
| PSV # | 37.910 | 117.462 | 83.071 | 155.372 | 272.943 | 5.402.791 |
| WIU | 3.122 | 10.136 | 14.705 | 13.258 | 127.486 | 3.292.996 |
| PS3 | 1.417 | 2.599 | 5.131 | 4.016 | 16.352 | 10.261.735 |
| XB1 # | 930 | 2.285 | 659 | 3.215 | 1.546 | 76.163 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| ALL | 298.432 | 800.718 | 292.959 | 1.099.150 | 1.061.107 | 45.790.003 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 S | 765 | 1.749 | | 2.514 | | 4.232 |
| XB1 | 165 | 536 | 659 | 701 | 1.546 | 71.931 |
|PS4 Pro| 28.812 | 38.956 | | 67.768 | | 184.818 |
| PS4 | 111.256 | 273.464 | 109.867 | 384.720 | 303.051 | 4.189.286 |
| PSV | 37.910 | 117.462 | 83.071 | 155.372 | 272.943 | 5.402.791 |
| 2DS | 25.462 | 110.263 | | 135.725 | | 432.872 |
| n-3DS | 89.523 | 245.553 | 73.450 | 335.076 | 307.657 | 5.029.065 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
Eolz
Member
My statement goes both ways, not sure why you're reading that much into it.
Anyway, guess we'll see. Any fan is too sensitive on this forum, be it for Switch, PS4, Vita, Horizon, Spencer or other threads...
Likely not much.
DriftingSpirit
Member
That is where my expectations were. I figured it would be in the 60-80K range with 90-100K being rather optimistic. It seems to have comfortably done better than that.
Another one, Kakaku.
01./00. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn (First Limited Edition) <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
02./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
03./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Collector's Edition) <ADV> (Nintendo)
04./01. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
05./00. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
01./00. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn (First Limited Edition) <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
02./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
03./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Collector's Edition) <ADV> (Nintendo)
04./01. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
05./00. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
PdotMichael
Banned
Nice to see Horizon so strong. Nier will also have a good second week mostlikely.
SporeCrawler
Member
Selling twice even thrice the number of FFXV? Unlikely
1st Course
Member
02./00. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.02.23} (¥8.600) - 100.154 / NEW
03./00. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.02.23} (¥7.600) - 83.733 / NEW
A while ago there was a common narrative that the PSV version always do better than the PS4 version (in multiplats), but now it looks like multiplats sell better on PS4?
03./00. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.02.23} (¥7.600) - 83.733 / NEW
A while ago there was a common narrative that the PSV version always do better than the PS4 version (in multiplats), but now it looks like multiplats sell better on PS4?
Kresnik258
Member
Depends on the game:
02./00. [PSV] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony # <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2017.01.12} (¥6.400) - 76.166 / NEW
03./00. [PS4] Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony # <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2017.01.12} (¥7.400) - 40.006 / NEW
Also, worth noting this:
32./41. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.10.27} (¥6.100)
This was what they opened at:
01./00. [PS4] Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.10.27} (¥7.200) - 70.871 / NEW
02./00. [PSV] Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization # <RPG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2016.10.27} (¥6.100) - 69.648 / NEW <66,53%>
Vita versions tend to have longer legs, at least for certain games. If you look at the retailer charts from this week, it already seems like the Vita version of SRWV is gaining compared to PS4.
With that said, we're seeing PS4 version winning a lot more often these days and it's only going to happen more frequently going forward.
While doing prediction I thought will it even do 50k first week (based on comgnet preorder number of mid 20 a week before launch). And now 150k first week is looking low.
Surely look like console gaming is not that dead in Japan. Third above expectation results for PS4 game in as many months
Take a look at this week's retailer charts. The Vita version of SRW V is charting ahead of the PS4 one. The exact same thing happened to Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization, though their FWs were closer.
Typically the only Vita/PS4 multiplats that always go in favour of PS4 are Koei Tecmo games. Valkyria: Azure Revolution sold better on PS4, but that game's sales weren't particularly great on either platform and the Vita version was an afterthought that didn't exist until more than a year into promo.
The fact that we're even having this conversation about the multi-plat split on a platform that hasn't seen a single release from its hardware manufacturer in 2 years isn't a good look for PS4.
Pretty sure he meant Worldwide
Eolz
Member
Because it was easier on mobile than to bold it. Doesn't change my statement, it was the same with the previous recent console launches.
Square2015
Member
I have Comgnet Wii launch week from 2006 for comparison's sake:
Code:
Tales of Destiny 1484 new
Summon Night 634 new
Final Fantasy VI Advance 389 new
[B]Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 259 new
[/B][B]Wii Play 206 new
Wii Sports 154 new
[/B]魔界戦記 Disgaea PORTABLE (2 ver.) 121 new
Love & Berry DS Collection 119
Pocket Monster Diamond 106
Pocket Monster Pearl 80
Jump Ultimate Stars 76
[B]Made in Wario 75 new
[/B]Kirby Star DS 62
New Super Mario Bros. 41Kresnik258
Member
That chart with Disgaea Portable in serves to remind me that I may be eating crow about Disgaea 5 on Wednesday.
I really thought it was going to do fine. Bleh.
BluePikmin11
Member
I can't wait for Media Creates this week! I can't wait to see how the Switch will do in Japan!
Yup, I depressingly called it.
Eolz
Member
Handheld domination (+PS2)
Obliterator
Member
Dang, I realize these are smaller / individual stores, but so far every early indication is Horizon on top this week.
If it actually does above 150k that would be utterly shocking to me.
You'll be surprised how many Wii U launch games multiplied first week sales many times if you think first week is the end of everything for system launch software.
Interfectum
Member
Were we expecting Horizon to beat Zelda? Genuinely curious here.
PshycoNinja
Member
Thought I would've done better. Oh well. At least I was on point with DQ.
And I totally missed prediction deadline for March. Gah!
Principate
Saint Titanfall
It'll be close regardless. I feel total Zelda should comfortably beat Horizon but Horizon could very well squeak out at win against the switch plus collectors edition.
thestopsign
Member
Zelda will easily outsell it between all of its different SKUs, but Horizon is definitely outperforming most expectations and may take the #1 spot this week over the base Switch version.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
No. The two titles were not even compared unlike the PAL chart.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I do wonder why Nintendo didn't manage to ship more, I guess priorities lay elsewhere
Hmm i hope this thing is supply constrained as otherwise things don't look too swell.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Maybe it is just the difficulty of doing a worldwide launch. Figuring out allocation and things of that nature.
Was Wii U worldwide? Or was it staggered?
It obviously is, you'd have to not have been paying attention to this very thread if you thought otherwise.
Retailers underestimated demand.
Eventually, you will remember that in Japan the retailer decides the shipment. I feel like we go over this every time there's underestimated demand and limited stock yet people keep forgetting.
Undershipped software or hardware (if there are really supply problems and not hopes and dreams as excuses) is overstimated.
There aren't lost sales, if demand is there sales will come later.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
At the very least the launch seemed to have gone well in france and it seems like they got a decent amount of stock. Reports of 4 times wii u's first week and I think the wii u did 65k over there 260k allocation assuming all stats are accurate.
Fwiw i think that quote was attributed to an individual retailer rather than France as a whole.
thestopsign
Member
Yeah I sense somewhere around 275k incoming.
At least from a retailers blog the guy say that they had run out of consoles and most accesories by Saturday with most who bought it being in their 20s.
He said that by the weekend the more casual audience appeared, naming younger children/families, but they didn't had any systems to sell by then.
He said that by the weekend the more casual audience appeared, naming younger children/families, but they didn't had any systems to sell by then.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
We know that but in launches stocks tend to be particularly scarce. Even if retailers ordered more or less that will inevitably be a trade off in launch system allocation. Nintendo has to decide where to send that stock.
Gotdatmoney
Member
I'm not so sure tbh. We'll have to see in the upcoming weeks. With basically no software I dunno if I really expect the sales to remain high. If we were expecting 300k and it does 250k is that a huge enough deviation to state undershipped?
Some of the posts in here make me think otherwise.
But given the scarcity worldwide of the system, there was no "better market" to save consoles for where they were going to sell more... they have sold just about everything, even the weaker EU region has had solid movement of stock.
Of course its undershipped. Just look two posts up. Demand when allocations were being divied was underestimated by Japanese retailers (who I wouldn't doubt had priority), and the launch has far exceeded that allocation and now even second wave reserves have been picked clean. There is no clearer sign of undershipped with heavy demand.
They certainly overshipped randomly here in Italy. I don't think there's a single store where you can't find the console.
By the way, how would 250-275k compare to other Nintendo launches?
thestopsign
Member
No. Nintendo's fiscal year ends in March. We should hear a full report towards the end of April.
I think the Switch screen manufacturers said they were told 10 million until the end of 2017, with potential for more if needed.
No i know it ends march and we get some info and earnings etc around then or late april but the full financial report typically is released around late june.
Smiles and Cries
Member
did we know Switch's shipment numbers to Japan?