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And it's probably 100% it'll happen in U.K.. And the rest of main Europe unless France (?) surprises
Hmmmm zelda switch on amazon just overtook horizon.
But horizon is also sold out, so.......
Extrapolating sales conclusions based on single retailer rankings is never a good idea. 
In general the take away here should be "Horizon and the Switch are both doing very well at retail this week", and anything beyond that is up in the air. Since they are just rankings without any numbers (Comgnet at least has numbers to show the gap for that retailer) they could literally be selling the same amount.
In general the take away here should be "Horizon and the Switch are both doing very well at retail this week", and anything beyond that is up in the air. Since they are just rankings without any numbers (Comgnet at least has numbers to show the gap for that retailer) they could literally be selling the same amount.
Rakuten Books Sales Ranking Week 9, 2017 (Feb 27 - Mar 05)
01./00. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn (First Limited Edition) <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
02./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
03./00. [WiiU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
04./01. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
05./00. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
06./05. [3DS] Pokémon Sun <RPG> (Pokémon Co.)
07./00. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami)
08./06. [3DS] Pokémon Moon <RPG> (Pokémon Co.)
09./00. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
10./07. [PS4] Nioh <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
11./13. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional <RPG> (Square Enix)
12./02. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
13./00. [NSW] Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch <RPG> (Square Enix)
14./00. [PS4] Winning Post 8 2017 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo)
15./03. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
16./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Collector's Edition) <ADV> (Nintendo)
17./04. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V (AniSong Sound Edition) <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
18./00. [3DS] Doraemon the Movie: Nobita no Nankyoku Kachikochi Daibouken <ACT> (FuRyu)
18./19. [WiiU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios)
19./09. [PS4] For Honor <ACT> (Ubisoft)
20./12. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V (AniSong Sound Edition) <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 9, 2017 (Feb 27 - Mar 05)
01./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter XX <ACT> (Capcom)
02./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
03./10. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix)
04./06. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
05./23. [PS4] Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash <ACT> (Marvelous)
06./14. [3DS] Pro Baseball: Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco)
07./15. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <ADV> (Bandai Namco)
08./17. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
09./16. [PSV] Kono Yo no Hate de Koi o Utau Shōjo YU-NO (Limited Edition) <ADV> (5pb.)
10./31. [PS4] Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash (Nyuu Nyuu Deluxe Pack) <ACT> (Marvelous)
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 8, 2017 (Feb 20 - Feb 26)
***WARNING***
* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.
01./00. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn (First Limited Edition) <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
02./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
03./00. [WiiU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo)
04./01. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix)
05./00. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo)
06./05. [3DS] Pokémon Sun <RPG> (Pokémon Co.)
07./00. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami)
08./06. [3DS] Pokémon Moon <RPG> (Pokémon Co.)
09./00. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn <ADV> (Sony Interactive)
10./07. [PS4] Nioh <ACT> (Koei Tecmo)
11./13. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - Professional <RPG> (Square Enix)
12./02. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
13./00. [NSW] Dragon Quest Heroes I & II for Nintendo Switch <RPG> (Square Enix)
14./00. [PS4] Winning Post 8 2017 <SLG> (Koei Tecmo)
15./03. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
16./00. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Collector's Edition) <ADV> (Nintendo)
17./04. [PS4] Super Robot Wars V (AniSong Sound Edition) <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
18./00. [3DS] Doraemon the Movie: Nobita no Nankyoku Kachikochi Daibouken <ACT> (FuRyu)
18./19. [WiiU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios)
19./09. [PS4] For Honor <ACT> (Ubisoft)
20./12. [PSV] Super Robot Wars V (AniSong Sound Edition) <SLG> (Bandai Namco)
Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 9, 2017 (Feb 27 - Mar 05)
01./03. [3DS] Monster Hunter XX <ACT> (Capcom)
02./09. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo)
03./10. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX <RPG> (Square Enix)
04./06. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ADV> (Ubisoft)
05./23. [PS4] Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash <ACT> (Marvelous)
06./14. [3DS] Pro Baseball: Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco)
07./15. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <ADV> (Bandai Namco)
08./17. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia <SLG> (Nintendo)
09./16. [PSV] Kono Yo no Hate de Koi o Utau Shōjo YU-NO (Limited Edition) <ADV> (5pb.)
10./31. [PS4] Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash (Nyuu Nyuu Deluxe Pack) <ACT> (Marvelous)
Rakuten Books Ranking Week 8, 2017 (Feb 20 - Feb 26)
***WARNING***
* Note: Games on the Rakuten Books Rankings are ONLY based on sales at Rakuten Books and does NOT count games sold by other retailers at Rakuten.
** Note 2: Games on the Pre-Orders Ranking are counted as net sales, so it might possibly affect the games listed on the Sales Ranking, since those sales are NOT added afterwards.
Never mind, I was confused. I always assumed Tuesday was the last tracking day since results posted the following day. Going by this thread's dates(20th-26th), I guess MC tracks Monday thru Sunday, with results posting a couple days later on Wednesday.
Obliterator
Member
That's 3 for 3 with Horizon on top now. Regardless of which ends up selling more it's pretty clear Horizon is gonna be a bit of a surprise hit
How dubious?
Isn't Japan into open world games as of late?
GTAV was a huge hit and I remember Witcher 3 doing really well. Something like Horizon should be right up their alley.
Obliterator
Member
No doubt and it seems like Western titles in general are slowly growing more popular in Japan it just seems like Horizon is gonna open better than expected is all
Long time since I posted pics. Sorry for that, very busy these days.
So, this week was the launch of Switch. Stores were very happy for the release and the improvement of clients. They there were giving big spaces for the console. Pics are from Joshin, Santy, and Mandai.
Situation is that Switch is out of stock in most places. Santy re-opened the reservations, but had to close them again aren't accepting more. Accesories were very popular, controllers and especially the carrying cases. Most Switch games are available. Zelda was the best selling game. Santy-san says again, of each three Switch consoles sold, are two Zelda copies and one 1-2-Switch were sold.
Even though was Switch release, Horizon sold better than expected. Actually, the game competed directly with Zelda on the weekly rankings published internally by those small stores, and got some new shipment during the weekend.
So, this week was the launch of Switch. Stores were very happy for the release and the improvement of clients. They there were giving big spaces for the console. Pics are from Joshin, Santy, and Mandai.
Situation is that Switch is out of stock in most places. Santy re-opened the reservations, but had to close them again aren't accepting more. Accesories were very popular, controllers and especially the carrying cases. Most Switch games are available. Zelda was the best selling game. Santy-san says again, of each three Switch consoles sold, are two Zelda copies and one 1-2-Switch were sold.
Even though was Switch release, Horizon sold better than expected. Actually, the game competed directly with Zelda on the weekly rankings published internally by those small stores, and got some new shipment during the weekend.
Right graph shows ownership of devices on kids ages 5 to 14, blue line is 3DS, red one is phones and green one is tablets.
This is from the kids marketing whitepaper, no small poll or anything but from a book that costs as much as a Switch and Dragon Quest Heroes.
Notice how ownership of 3DS is above 50% on kids aged 10 to 12 and how it starts to drop just as the line for smartphones jumps.
By age 15 smartphone ownership surpasses that of 3DS.
Is... is... Aloy considered a waifu in Japan
It also doesn't hurt that the game has Mon Hun inspirations.
They really nail the combat feel and mecha behavior. However GG somehow doesn't even bother to implement other half of MH that is "wear the skin of your enemy" part and the hunting part become strange mix between satisfaction and disappointment.
Sangetsu-II
Member
I say...god damn 3/3 now putting Horizon on top.
There's going to be a "Horizon outsells Zelda in Japan" thread come Thursday with a Gif of the girl (Aloy? Or Alloy) dancing with a mechanical dinosaur isn't there?
We can make educated guesses though. Concluding that Horizon should open well over 100k and maybe even 150 isn't outrageous.
Extrapolating sales conclusions based on single retailer rankings is never a good idea.
In general the take away here should be "Horizon and the Switch are both doing very well at retail this week", and anything beyond that is up in the air. Since they are just rankings without any numbers (Comgnet at least has numbers to show the gap for that retailer) they could literally be selling the same amount.
We can make educated guesses though. Concluding that Horizon should open well over 100k and maybe even 150 isn't outrageous.
Obliterator
Member
That thread will be up in a few hours when the UK numbers roll in
AcademicSaucer
Member
Disgaea had to benefit from the lack of RPGs at launch right?
What were benefited were Wii U games. Expect some reappearing on the charts. What's true is that Switch shipment was lower than we expected.
DXB-KNIGHT
Member
I'm more eager to see what happens when Splatoon hits the market
Prototype Viktor
Member
what is that even made up of! Ubisoft open world terrain or something? disgusting
so says Prototype Viktor, the Anti-Yves
VegaShinra
Junior Member
Wonder if the Splatoon 2 beta at the end of the month will drive Switch hardware sales any.
Another March 30th game delayed: The Alliance Alive now releasing on June 22nd, for quality reasons (the usual "reason").
http://www.furyu.jp/news/2017/03/alliance-alive.html
http://www.furyu.jp/news/2017/03/alliance-alive.html
I would guess no on that.
Doubtful. It's possible that it will outsell the Switch version but not all of them.
Jawbreaker
Member
Wow, that would be a great opening for Horizon. I figured it had the potential to appeal to Japanese players, so it's nice to see it come to fruition.
Currently, I don't remember, but which one between Tsutaya and Rakuten was supposed to be more Sony-biased, the latter I think...? Correct me if I'm wrong though.
Both Horizon and Zelda had two separate SKUs, so their sum should give the better representation of the situation at least for those three retailers: at Comgnet, Horizon total is 276pt, while Zelda's 258pt (the latter with the already mentioned phenomenon of preorders > sales); at Tsutaya Horizon's and Zelda's are 1st and 2nd respectively, while the lowest selling ones see Zelda ahead by several placements (7th v.s. 14th); Rakuten is the one where Horizon is ahead both with the main selling SKU and the lowest one.
Yeah, we need to know what's the actual first shipment for Switch. Maybe around 300,000 units is indeed what they shipped...but it would surprise me that Sinobi was expecting a lot less than that, then.
At least, we can say that Horizon probably had a very good debut in Japan.
Both Horizon and Zelda had two separate SKUs, so their sum should give the better representation of the situation at least for those three retailers: at Comgnet, Horizon total is 276pt, while Zelda's 258pt (the latter with the already mentioned phenomenon of preorders > sales); at Tsutaya Horizon's and Zelda's are 1st and 2nd respectively, while the lowest selling ones see Zelda ahead by several placements (7th v.s. 14th); Rakuten is the one where Horizon is ahead both with the main selling SKU and the lowest one.
Yeah, we need to know what's the actual first shipment for Switch. Maybe around 300,000 units is indeed what they shipped...but it would surprise me that Sinobi was expecting a lot less than that, then.
At least, we can say that Horizon probably had a very good debut in Japan.
Jarod McChicken
Member
This is going to be the third time in a row a PS4 game greatly surpass expectations after Nioh and Nier. Can't be more happy about that, and Horizon is eating my life right now, with Zelda and Nier being next on my planning *--*
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Ōkami;231535867 said:
For some reaosn I thought the expectations for Horizon were 70-100k. It looks to be opening at 150-200k, even outselling Zelda.
I'll make a thread with a dubious title
Yes it's only bad when people shitpost my favorite console. I agree. When fanboys get too invested or defensive and go all militant on people pointing out negative aspects of the console or games it is absolutely okay.
lowhighkang_LHK
Member
Hopefully Nioh has another strong hold.
Raise the militia!
Eolz
Member
I'd say the same if another console was coming out this week.
Seriously, did you set foot in any Switch thread since it's out?
What I find more interesting is that we are seeing such growth in terms of sales for a Western Game. I know eventually the Witcher 3 was a game that sold over 100k in Japan but it opened at 67,385. Horizon looking at those preorders is likely to do twice or three times that in it's debut. It also seems like HZD's shipment is able to actually handle this type of demand, since first day sell through was 60%.
2017 is off to a great start in terms of SW for the PS4, last year around this time it PS4 had only two games that had sold over 100k in retail(Yakuza and DQB). It also underlines the strength of the system as we saw four extremely well received titles come out back to back.
In any-case I'm pretty excited about the upcoming Wednesday to find out what the initial Switch shipment is. 300k to me would seem pretty disappointing if true.
2017 is off to a great start in terms of SW for the PS4, last year around this time it PS4 had only two games that had sold over 100k in retail(Yakuza and DQB). It also underlines the strength of the system as we saw four extremely well received titles come out back to back.
In any-case I'm pretty excited about the upcoming Wednesday to find out what the initial Switch shipment is. 300k to me would seem pretty disappointing if true.
No I clearly don't read any threads about a new console I just bought.
Eolz
Member
Well I guess those are the other mods locking those threads then. I know you like to troll a bit on the side, but come on now.
It's the same at every console launch, there's just more concern trolling this time.
killatopak
Member
NieR and SRW V <3
Zelda is more of a phenomenon in the west i hear, it may not be a shock to locals.
So are you saying that japanese are more hyped for western games than local games. Is this alright?
Hopefully we get some sort of data from Nintendo today, we generally get some for major releases. We won't get JP-specific data, but at least we'll see how many of the 2 million units from the Q1 2017 shipment were sold during launch week-end.
Yes, you are probably right. Concern trolling is the only problem. There is absolutely no problem of NIntendo fans being too defensive and fragile snowflakes. None at all.
Mr. Pointy
Member
It wouldn't surprise me any more. I expect Horizon to be the next Monster Hunter.