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Microsoft / Activision Deal Approval Watch |OT| (MS/ABK close)
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
His argument was centered around Call of Duty mobile and how the revenue stream became attractive and a reason why MS is looking at mobile.
DeepEnigma
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I had to turn my volume down when the woman came to the stand, lol.
Bobby was too damned quiet.
Bobby was too damned quiet.
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Jigsaah
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So he mentions COD, but not Candy Crush? Odd.
Dick Jones
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The only positive I could give almost any other fanboy/shill over Mueller is they don't dox. They are (extremely likely) annoying cunts but not doxxing
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Ar¢tos
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solidus12
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IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
What else is the FTC supposed to bring up?
They did a decent job of showing that some of the things MS says about how the purchase will expand access to games, might happen w/o MS buying Activision.
Basically got Kotick to say "if the price is right we'd do it" or "we aren't planning on it but we'd consider it", but Kotick also said he disagrees with the day 1 strategy of MS. So it's not like they knocked it out of the park.
In the end Kotick is one of the least important witnesses as this trial is about what MS not Acti.
Much better day than the last couple for the FTC.
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How much more would really have direct relevance? My opinion is he could have been avoided entirely if FTC and MS entered a simple stipulation:
1) It would be cost prohibitive for the largest third party games, like COD, to release day 1 on a platform holder's subscription service.
2) MS would gain benefits that it may or may not outweigh those concerns if it bought COD.
3) Current switch could never properly run current COD.
4) Nintendo has large market share, so releasing on Switch's successor cannot be ruled out.
5) MS plans for Activision content do not make business sense for Activision, but Activision's board doesn't give a damn if MS buys out the shares.
DeepEnigma
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DeaDPo0L84
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It'd be a bit funny if the merger goes through but there is a stipulation in the contract that CoD is not allowed to be put on gamepass. Spencer would be like:
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I believe that the sole intention of the FTC lawyer was to make Boby's opinion look irrelevant....
When he asks if the sale of ABK is going to make him 400 million it is clearly a message to the judge: "This guy is going to say anything in favor of the sale because he is going to make 400 million"
Thirty7ven
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Kotick basically just spelled it out and confirmed that he info we got from the emails.
Devalue games
Moat by way of IP acquisition
Chase mobile way of gaming, it’s about time spent in a game nothing else
Devalue games
Moat by way of IP acquisition
Chase mobile way of gaming, it’s about time spent in a game nothing else
splattered
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He didnt seem in favor of the sale though, this dude is so rich he is going to continue reaping massive amounts of money whether he sells the company or not. I dont think he gives a damn one way or another.
Ehh.
So, if I have 70$ as disposable for games and have PS5 and Switch at home and I can only buy one game per month, isn't that competition?
If I have PS5 and Switch and I'm buying Battle Pass for Fortnite, aren't Nintendo and Sony competing for my money?
If I can only afford one console and I'm deciding between Switch, Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5, aren't all three companies competing against each other for my money?
Like. There is no doubt that Xbox and PlayStation are closer competitors. Thanks to fact that AAA multiplatform games are usually released on both platforms. But pretending like Nintendo is not competing in console space is wierd.
Not to mention fact that next Nintendo console would probably mean that more and more multiplatform games will be released on Nintendo platform too.
And strangest was Ryan's explanation for "younger" target audience.
This is Switch demographic
DeepEnigma
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There is no doubt that Nintendo targets a younger audience. Just because we are all man-babies and most mid 20's are still living at home with their mom's making them meals, does not change that fact.And strangest was Ryan's explanation for "younger" target audience.
This is Switch demographic
We can even argue that mentalities have matured less and less over the years.
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Jigsaah
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I hope this happens honestly. I mean Warzone is already free. Who gives a damn about the campaign being on Gamepass. Not worth it IMO. HMmm, I guess you got Multiplayer. Still, I think from a financial standpoint you don't need COD to be on gamepass. I think it's more profitable if you let people just buy it. Cuz they are gonna buy it.It'd be a bit funny if the merger goes through but there is a stipulation in the contract that CoD is not allowed to be put on gamepass. Spencer would be like:
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ChorizoPicozo
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c'mon Sonyfyi if his Twitter isn't allowed here then I apologise in advance, I'm not aware of a ban list on certain accounts, but if there is one, can some ie Mods point me to it, cheers
are you coming for era?
Dick Jones
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Nintendo's aimed at young children. Just because there is an older audience doesn't mean it's not aimed at kids.Ehh.
So, if I have 70$ as disposable for games and have PS5 and Switch at home and I can only buy one game per month, isn't that competition?
If I have PS5 and Switch and I'm buying Battle Pass for Fortnite, aren't Nintendo and Sony competing for my money?
If I can only afford one console and I'm deciding between Switch, Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5, aren't all three companies competing against each other for my money?
Like. There is no doubt that Xbox and PlayStation are closer competitors. Thanks to fact that AAA multiplatform games are usually released on both platforms. But pretending like Nintendo is not competing in console space is wierd.
Not to mention fact that next Nintendo console would probably mean that more and more multiplatform games will be released on Nintendo platform too.
And strangest was Ryan's explanation for "younger" target audience.
This is Switch demographic
The same as My Little Pony but there is a sizable older audience.
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93xfan
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FTC has to prove its will hurt consumers
mansoor1980
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lulu must be crying right now
DeaDPo0L84
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The only reason I even load up CoD is for Warzone, and the fact that the original WZ was retired and the new one is nowhere near as fun me and my usual group have totally moved on. The campaigns are fun for a couple days but even then I lose interest rather quickly. This potential merger is still a huge deal but with the insane saturation of multiplayer games available it's not nearly as big a deal as it would've been years ago. I just wish Sony would get back to being interested in 1st party multiplayer games, we need SOCOM and MAG to come back, ironically made by the same developer at the time.
Activision wouldn't need to do this out of the kindness of their heart. If subscription services begin to eat retail sales then Activison would be incentivised to try and seek out that audience that game on subscriptions. If CoD on switch was in demand then Activision would be incentivised to go after that audience, if cloud gaming becomes a large market Activision would be incentivised to offer their games on cloud services...etc etc.
Fabieter
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They cant but in ten years everyone will be shocked and no one saw it the doom train coming.
DrFigs
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This says a lot about society.Ehh.
So, if I have 70$ as disposable for games and have PS5 and Switch at home and I can only buy one game per month, isn't that competition?
If I have PS5 and Switch and I'm buying Battle Pass for Fortnite, aren't Nintendo and Sony competing for my money?
If I can only afford one console and I'm deciding between Switch, Xbox Series X and PlayStation 5, aren't all three companies competing against each other for my money?
Like. There is no doubt that Xbox and PlayStation are closer competitors. Thanks to fact that AAA multiplatform games are usually released on both platforms. But pretending like Nintendo is not competing in console space is wierd.
Not to mention fact that next Nintendo console would probably mean that more and more multiplatform games will be released on Nintendo platform too.
And strangest was Ryan's explanation for "younger" target audience.
This is Switch demographic
Ar¢tos
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Furries?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There is huge difference between
We will consider Switch (or next Nintendo console) releases/cloud license/Game Pass
and
We will release COD on Switch (or next Nintendo console), cloud and Game Pass if this merger will go ahead
Also. That is not a point that FTC need to make to get PI. They need to prove that this deal will hurt consumers and and competing space within games industry.
Kacho
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DeepEnigma
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What does that have to do with the one I posted?
Bobby just added more to Ryan's comments about publishers not really liking these services and the day 1 model.
solidus12
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Do you have a YouTube link?
DeepEnigma
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Dick Jones
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More or less. Nintendo aiming itself at mid 20s onwards would likely lose a chunk of kids and the sizeable number of weirdos. [Not all older owners of a Switch are freaks, I just mean the owners who got it as a gift from their wife's boyfriend]
Topher
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Fabieter
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No but the info helps the cma case and iam sure ms wont close without it. Its a really bad look for future acquisitions but they could do it anyway.
Calverz
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DeepEnigma
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Seriously. I don't really get what he is trying to arguing with that tweet responding to me.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I mean, it's the very next line and he says that he might not agree with it personally but he will bow down to shareholders (and stacks of cash)
Topher
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CMA dropped console SLC so it is totally irrelevant.
If anything, those testimonies actually hurt CMA's case, because Jim Ryan and even Stadia guy told judge that they don't consider cloud gaming being separate market. Which is main anchor of CMA's block.
Ar¢tos
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I was thinking specifically of the adults that play My Little Pony.
IntentionalPun
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All this cloud shit basically boils down to:
- Hardly anyone uses cloud
- Much of those who do are using their console to do it
ROFL... xCloud is such a wet fart. People are only using it to quickly check out games before installing them. Or get some daily MS points.
- Hardly anyone uses cloud
- Much of those who do are using their console to do it
ROFL... xCloud is such a wet fart. People are only using it to quickly check out games before installing them. Or get some daily MS points.
Dick Jones
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I know, I was fucking with you. Aren't they called Bronies or Bronys or fucking weirdos?
mansoor1980
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