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Mortal Kombat 11 review bombed because of ‘SJW propaganda’ and micro-transactions
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Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
They say that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but in this case, I’d rather my eyes just be in the stomach of a beholder...Beautiful female faces.
Noboru Wataya
Banned
Isn’t review bombing a made up buzz term? I mean, they are user reviews. If people don’t like a game because of X, Y or Z they are free to dislike it and leave a poor review. Which is what they are doing. Everyone who likes the game is free to leave positive reviews.
I mean, if bots are being used to pump fake reviews into a system, then that is an abuse. But, if users aren’t happy, then it’s not review bombing, it’s just reviewing poorly among the public.
I mean, if bots are being used to pump fake reviews into a system, then that is an abuse. But, if users aren’t happy, then it’s not review bombing, it’s just reviewing poorly among the public.
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MiyazakiHatesKojima
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Where the hell is
Afro Republican
and his stance on the issue? WHERE ARE HIS POLLS!?! JA-RULE, I NEED JA!
Afro Republican
and his stance on the issue? WHERE ARE HIS POLLS!?! JA-RULE, I NEED JA!
PaulBizkit
Member
Why did they have to focus so much on non-reveiling clothes? It's not like women are 50% of their demographic...
I dont care for sexy outfits, but i think they could AT LEAST convey a different idea on their sexual tones...
I dont care for sexy outfits, but i think they could AT LEAST convey a different idea on their sexual tones...
joe_zazen
Member
How are these related? Like when you see a cute person in a store do you ignore them because you watch porn and they aren't nude and massaging themselves? Just how much porn are you watching
Hinedorf
Banned
Going to disagree about microtransactions. If you don't want to partake you don't have to. If you do, it's there.
People need to start accepting this as the norm. Microtransactions are ultimately beneficial for both sides and keep the ecosystem alive allowing for future MK games.
I'm of the policy that if I like a game enough I will buy DLC/Cosmetics for the purpose of supporting games I like. If you don't have the money, don't spend it, if you do, enjoy what you want.
You could play MK11 and never bother with the Microtransaction page.
The small horde trying to die on this mountain is a minority that's shrinking every year. Money dictates decisions, not complaints
People need to start accepting this as the norm. Microtransactions are ultimately beneficial for both sides and keep the ecosystem alive allowing for future MK games.
I'm of the policy that if I like a game enough I will buy DLC/Cosmetics for the purpose of supporting games I like. If you don't have the money, don't spend it, if you do, enjoy what you want.
You could play MK11 and never bother with the Microtransaction page.
The small horde trying to die on this mountain is a minority that's shrinking every year. Money dictates decisions, not complaints
Sqorin Hammerfarf
Banned
Why not?
Handy Fake
Member
This is bollocks. And a rather awful, politically motivated post at that.Coming from an empirical standpoint? Absolutely.
Same shit.
I suggest you look up the reasons behind Iran's dip into dogmatic Islam and its connection to the leaderships in the 80s.
By the by:
Iran’s ‘Generation Normal’
Iranian youth — curious, wired and desperate for normality — are forcing change that horrifies their rulers
www.ft.com
Posts like this don't help further your argument, just for future reference.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
What the fuck is that?Beautiful female faces.
Handy Fake
Member
How are these related? Like when you see a cute person in a store do you ignore them because you watch porn and they aren't nude and massaging themselves? Just how much porn are you watching
888
Member
If the game wasn't changed to push those MTX I would say just ignore it, but the difficulty/progression is tuned to encourage extra purchases. That is where I draw the line. They sell costumes, kombat packs etc already. Seeing the loading screen encouraging buying skip fight tokens is a joke and seeing the store selling the Crystals already. If it was something that really wasn't so engrained then sure, just ignore it. But I would say this game is probably one of the worst so far.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
No it's not, and it's not politically motivated. These are both dangerous ideas and sets of ideology that have negative ramifications on society, rights, freedoms and as clearly shown creative works. The only political aspect in relation to Iran is that these ideals are a part of their civic code and enforced by morality police which includes fines and jailing for women in repeat violation of Islamic moral code.This is bollocks. And a rather awful, politically motivated post at that.
I suggest you look up the reasons behind Iran's dip into dogmatic Islam and its connection to the leaderships in the 80s.
By the by:
Iran’s ‘Generation Normal’
Iranian youth — curious, wired and desperate for normality — are forcing change that horrifies their rulers
Posts like this don't help further your argument, just for future reference.
So don't give me any of that bullshit, the younger generations are trying to revolt against these things to a degree but it's not working. Don't be an apologist, don't try to rationalize or derive logic and reason in this psychosis, it's not a good look.
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Shin
Banned
Your worst nightmare
joe_zazen
Member
“You people are all sick! You need to watch more pornography!”
xpresstuning
Member
It depends whether or not micro-transactions have had a negative influence in the design choices of the video game. Customers will naturally be far more critical of a product they payed with their own money for rather than professional reviewers, they don't need to accept anything. People can complain. And can voice themselves, and i don't see your dismissal of them as something grounded in reality.
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SurprisedPikachu
Member
I have not played this game and I have no interest in playing it due to my lack of liking fighter games. I have been intrigued by the story of Mortal Kombat in the past mostly due to the movies. While the Jax ending sounds ridiculous because slavery has always existed and still exists to this day (and still immoral, etc) the biggest offender that I am hearing here and everywhere else is... the microtransactions and horrible grind. I have heard the echo of the female characters design changes for woke points, but honestly, that shit doesn't bother me. What bothers me in any game are microtransactions and excessive grind. I pay for a full game and a full experience, not to have something locked behind paywalls or again an excessive grind. If it's just cosmetic stuff, I don't really care because time was taken to make it and the artists have to be compensated somehow. But it sounds like in order to succeed in the towers you have to have certain gear which is only obtained by either grinding or paying $$$. That is a problem and I don't like it. Let the management team get roasted for such poor decisions.
SonGoku
Member
Im ok with games with mtx flopping hard, the more flops then pubs will start taking a hint
Its disgusting really, mtx and other f2p mechanics have no place in paid games.
Its disgusting really, mtx and other f2p mechanics have no place in paid games.
How about no? Its this mentality that enabled pubs to push mtx so far.
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Handy Fake
Member
I appreciate your point, and I'm in no way an "apologist". But you're trying to shoehorn a tragedy of political and religious oppression into this and it's madness. It's the same overblown fallacy as shouting "Nazi" at every person you perceive of slighting the moral code.
Do I agree with censorship? To a degree. Do I think there are overreactions in the media and in society at the minute? Of course. But it's no different to when I was growing up in the 80s and my formative years in the 90s.
Maybe it's because I've seen all this furore before and it all turns into a storm in a teacup. I suppose you could level the term "blasé" at me and you wouldn't be far off.
But then I am an old, cynical man reaching my fortieth year and it just seems to be needlessly angry all the time on here. It's like kicking back against someone kicking back against someone kicking back and it's going to continue in a vicious circle until someone takes a deep breath and takes the high road for a bit.
I apologise for slightly overreacting to your post too - I really do dislike such subjects being brought into discussion as point-scoring exercises and while I do see your point (although I disagree as to the magnitude of the analogy), it's yet another issue where nobody is going to come out on top until there's someone prepared to step back and take stock.
Sorry for the wall of text.
EDIT: They can fuck off with the microtransactions though.
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joe_zazen
Member
From what I know, It is more a case of them understanding the mentality of collectors and gamblers and exploiting that rather than nobody being able to progress in towers. They are using randomised reward whale hooks not fine mesh nets. I think doing things that are NOT designed to exploit those with certain predilections is way less predatory and immoral then those that do.
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DynamiteCop!
Banned
Is it really an overreaction though, because censorship and these kind of ideals all lead to one eventuality. It's just an example of what happens with extremist ideological shifts in society and presently we're battling one with the extreme left and SJW's.I appreciate your point, and I'm in no way an "apologist". But you're trying to shoehorn a tragedy of political and religious oppression into this and it's madness. It's the same overblown fallacy as shouting "Nazi" at every person you perceive of slighting the moral code.
Do I agree with censorship? To a degree. Do I think there are overreactions in the media and in society at the minute? Of course. But it's no different to when I was growing up in the 80s and my formative years in the 90s.
Maybe it;s because I've seen all this furore before and it all turns into a storm in a teacup. I suppose you could level the term "blasé" at me and you wouldn't be far off.
But then I am an old, cynical man reaching my fortieth year and it just seems to needlessly angry all the time on here. It's like kicking back against someone kicking back against someone kicking back and it;s going to continue in a vicious circle until someone takes a deep breath and takes the high road for a bit.
I apologise for slightly overreacting to your post too - I really do dislike such subjects being brought into discussion as point-scoring exercises and while I do see your point (although I disagree as to the magnitude of the analogy), it's yet another issue where nobody is going to come out on top until there's someone prepared to step back and take stock.
Sorry for the wall of text.
EDIT: They can fuck off with the microtransactions though.
It's negatively impacting our society, our way of life, our media, our movies, our books, our video games, our outlook on style, the way we can speak etc. It's dangerous stuff and the beginnings of extremism need to be met with examples of its ends.
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Simply_Bry
Member
Why do game developers keep making games for people who won't buy their games?
Handy Fake
Member
You could similarly argue that the Extreme Left is a kickback against the rise of the Extreme Right, though? If you get my point?
It's needless aggro and one upmanship and nobody comes out looking too clever.
ThatStupidLion
Member
im convinced reviewers have unlimited credits so MTX arent taken into account when they are speeding through a game
Gamernyc78
Banned
Funny shit is I'm not buying the game bcus they are hypocrites and gave in to the sjw and their over sexualized talk, by changing how the women warriors look but leaving the men as is, although ppl can say their sexualized too.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
You really couldn't though, the things going on with the alt-right is a lot of posturing and laughable inaction whereas people on the far left are actually influencing mainstream aspects of society.
You could go there, but I'd say you're wrong.
Angry_Ostrich
Neo Member
No to bomb reviewing. You can just not buy the game you have problem with, or make memes about it. No need for such hate
Nymphae
Banned
Then they aren't reviewing the same product, that is BS.
Handy Fake
Member
Well, I think we'd have to agree to disagree on that. But, as I say, I apologise for overreacting a little at you in my original post. I spend a lot of time arguing over this issue on my local messageboard and I think the problems I've had with the misinformed right on there coloured my view of your post. I'm sure you'll appreciate we live in very odd times, politically, and trying to keep your head is getting increasingly difficult.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
No worries.Well, I think we'd have to agree to disagree on that. But, as I say, I apologise for overreacting a little at you in my original post. I spend a lot of time arguing over this issue on my local messageboard and I think the problems I've had with the misinformed right on there coloured my view of your post. I'm sure you'll appreciate we live in very odd times, politically, and trying to keep your head is getting increasingly difficult.
Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I disagree. You can not buy the game and at the same time let them know why.
DynamiteCop!
Banned
As free as developers are to make junk like this; those opposed have the equal freedom to tell them and everyone else why it's shit.
888
Member
It is hateful to review something poorly if I view it poorly? Do you think reviews should be abolished unless they are positive?
HATE?!? lol. If you view that as hateful you need to check yourself. There are things far worse out there to save the hate word for.
PaulBizkit
Member
Because the outfits themselves are not important to me, having the characters is.
For example, i hate the latest Marvel vs Capcom game precisely because it has like 4 girls only, that game feels so incomplete and dry...
ThatStupidLion
Member
I think peoples problem with mtx is that they alter decisions that go into designing the core gameplay and balance. for ex. its not just if you dont like them dont buy them... its if i dont want to buy them i have to waste time on manufactured grinding, when clearly they are encouraging you to speed up the process and spend a little. if there was no mtx to speed up the grinding then the grinding would be better balanced from drawn out annoyance to a pleasurable effort requirement.
if youre balancing a games playtime with no mtx in mind you want it to keep the player engaged for the perfect duration. if youre balancing your game around the player spending money, then youre going to make the game tiresome and unnecessarily elongated
the whole if you dont like then dont buy really can only apply to maybe cosmetic mtx that dont affect the games actual numbers and design one bit.
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DynamiteCop!
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They can be handled properly e.g. Halo 5 or CS:GO which continually helps to fund development and adding things to the game, but most implement them improperly and throw off game balance in a negative fashion. Microtransations are not inherently bad, but poor implementation can be.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
Naw it will discourage people from buying the game. Get woke go br-
https://venturebeat.com/2019/04/24/...cessful-launch-ever-years-of-content-planned/
Lupin3
Targeting terrorists with a D-Pad
I was actually pretty set on getting this game. Now not so much. This grinding and "rebalancing" bullshit has to stop! Make the games fun and rewarding to play without making us pay and pay again, or fuck off!
MightySquirrel
Banned
Not into fighting games lately, but from what I've seen the game looks phenomenal.
30fps cut scenes are jarring, so definitely not 'mechanically' sound.Hmm. Is this the first game to really bomb due to an 'SJW' backlash? I know ME:Andromeda tanked, but didn't they blame the issues on people blaming SJW features?
Is this the first mechanically sound game, that looks good that has lost points solely because of a perceived narrative?
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888
Member
Naw it will discourage people from buying the game. Get woke go br-
https://venturebeat.com/2019/04/24/...cessful-launch-ever-years-of-content-planned/
Meh, doesn't make sense. Initial launch is before user reviews are up and populated. Its based on Previews and "Critic" reviews.
Sooo yeah, disagree with your comment. User Reviews could cause loss of future sales..kinda like TLJ and Solo. TLJ did great number wise but Solo suffered for it.
All they had to do was temper the MTX and most people would have been perfectly fine.
It is jarring, what I saw during an interview with boon was the lower FPS is due to having higher quality effects going on during the Xray style attacks. What bothers me isn't that but the 30fps lock on the menu and krypt. That is where it bothers me most.
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Hinedorf
Banned
What if they cut out all MTX from MK11 and the end result was we never got another MK game.
Are all of you happy to die on that hill of losing a video game simply because of the morality of MTX?
Whether you realize it or not, you are advocating against the success and viability of the future of gaming, I'm not sure you're supporting the right causes, just my opinion
Are all of you happy to die on that hill of losing a video game simply because of the morality of MTX?
Whether you realize it or not, you are advocating against the success and viability of the future of gaming, I'm not sure you're supporting the right causes, just my opinion
#Phonepunk#
Banned
This. We need for real boycotts. If you pay money to see these films and games and then complain and yet keep paying for more you are only clowning yourself.
I started watching a TLJ video about Star Wars being ruined the other day and the guy opened it by saying he had seen it multiple times in theater and bought the blu Ray, I just shut that down, yeah these people are clowns.
If you are upset, withhold your money. It is the only form of protest that will work. Should be so easy these days given how simple it is to get it for free.
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