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NPD - FFXV experienced the best console launch month in franchise history
People always forget FFXIV 2.0 exists and all the good will and success that it has generated, huh?
Perfo
Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
GOD XV was dreadful.
Absolutely flawed to the fucking core..(((
What an exageration -.-'
ArkhamFantasy
Member
World is comparable to witcher, but XV excels in combat while witcher excels in writing.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
In all fairness, that was me assuming there would be a slight decline from FFXIII (because of Japan). I don't think anyone expected it to do as well as it's done. I thought it was a brilliant game, despite the flaws and was never against it doing well, I just didn't believe it possible to do such ridiculous numbers.
I mean, I understand that it's dropped in larger percentages than most series, but isn't it still currently basically the best selling PS4 game in Japan?
I get that the brand is weaker than it's ever been there, but at some point where people keep pointing this out, you gotta go "yo this thing is still king shit on this system".
Good will doesn't mean much in the casual market. FFXIV is doing great thanks to the subscription model, but raw numbers aren't that big.
I think with FFXV S-E nailed it in the marketing department and managed to attract a lot of new young players, which is extremely important for a franchise that lost an entire generation with the FFXIII trilogy.
http://www.gamerevolution.com/news/...cond-most-popular-subscriptionbased-mmo-33713
Not saying it has 5 million concurrent subscribers, but 5 million subs is still 5 million copies of the game sold, on top of the sub money. It still sold a fair amount. And this article is from 2 years ago, just the most recent numbers I can find.
People are allowed to have differing opinions.
Noctis is one of the better protagonists as well. I really enjoyed his character and he was way different than I thought he would be. I appreciated that he was pretty humorous when compared to some of the previous protagonists.
Agreed. Someone made a thread about FF's best protag some time after the game released and Noct just kept coming to mind, and I was glad to see many others thought the same in that thread.
He's great on his own and if you throw his bros into the mix then they make quite the whole.
No, but it's still a great game and you should check it out! FFXV was my first FF and I loved it!
I thought he would be more akin to Squall from how he looked, but he was really easy to relate to. He was so unsure of himself like many people his age are. The game's story has a lot of issue but Noctis has some of the best characterization of all of the protagonists and his journey is actually logical. I'm really hoping that with the added cutscenes they can make some of the other characters just as good.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Noctis works so well because of the bros.
Depends on what you value. If story if one of them... probably not.
demosthenes
Member
LOL, not at all.
I don't like FFXV. I think it's a bad game. I started Witcher 3 after it and I'm in love with the game. Everything about it is better.
Not at all.
Prince of Space
Banned
Very well deserved; best single player Final Fantasy since XII.
It's all relative. Not counting budget releases, mainline Final Fantasy ended the PS2 and PS3 generations selling about double the next biggest game that wasnt Dragon Quest in Japan.
Most of the comparisons are messed up at the moment, since the biggest PS4 games tended to be on PS3 as well, but I doubt that Final fantasy XV ends the generation in Japan with the same margin.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I think what going to be interesting is FFVIIR and FFXVI in Japan .
If FFVIIR does better than FFXV there always going to be that it has nostalgia going for it .
Of course if it does less it will be because it in parts .
So it won't be until FFXVI if we see if the brand drop that bad in Japan or people just did not like FFXV that much over there.
BumblebeeCody
Member
Best game of last year. But barely beating Doom
onemanasylum
Banned
Square can't do anything about that.
shadow2810
Member
Can you prove if FFXV was a turn based RPG it wouldnt get similiar sales?
Pejo
Gold Member
Glad it did better than XIII at any rate. The Word of Mouth seems to be pretty positive on the game, and I loved it personally, even the Sonic Unleashed part.
I think the important thing as a Final Fantasy fan, is that the series is continuing to do well, even after an awful dev cycle, switching directors, and releasing an unfinished game (with tons of potential). It's also good that people voted with their wallets that we like exploration over corridors.
I think the important thing as a Final Fantasy fan, is that the series is continuing to do well, even after an awful dev cycle, switching directors, and releasing an unfinished game (with tons of potential). It's also good that people voted with their wallets that we like exploration over corridors.
Full disclosure: I really hated XIII.
gundamkyoukai
Member
No you don't drop 900k in sales without there being brand trouble.
Consoles sales in Japan are not that good but PS4 numbers were not that far from PS3.
When the game came out , right now PS4 is out pacing PS3 in both hardware and software for the same time period in Japan .
I am sure it drop some numbers because of the lower user base but the brand or maybe just FFXV was not like over there.
nelsonroyale
Member
Pretty different. But just about the only rpg comparable in scale and production values. FF XV does some things at least as good - visuals, OST, combat mechanics - but in general Wicther 3 is a much more consistent package with a better story. I would definitely recommend FFXV if you like rpgs - there aren't many big budget rpgs - but expect a very flawed package.
Mihos
Gold Member
Don't skip over FF12 remaster.... please don't delay it.....
True, but it's still annoying as a FF fan that they can't fully get their shit together on single player titles lately.
The talent is there. This time the only big miss for me was the storytelling. Not the story itself, mind you, just the way it was told and presented.
And well, they clearly ran out of dev time starting Chapter9 lol
AkirraKrylon
Member
Grats to SE and Tabata/Bus Div 2.
Well done and well deserved! Looking forward to all the updates they will apply to the game over the year. Flaws and all, I love FFXV.
Well done and well deserved! Looking forward to all the updates they will apply to the game over the year. Flaws and all, I love FFXV.
Muffdraul
Member
I never had any interest in The Witcher, WRPG style games simply don't do anything for me. They did 30+ years ago when I was into AD&D and video games like Tunnels of Doom, but I burned out. Since 1994 thanks to FFVI I've always been more a JRPG guy, but I slowly lost all of my enthusiasm for FF starting with FFX-2. FFXIII was the straw that broke the camel's back. I bought FFXV thinking it would probably be at least OK. Well, despite all of its flaws I thought it was a fuck of a lot better than OK. I played through the whole thing twice back to back, including almost all of the hunts and sidequests. Only thing I didn't do (yet) is the post-game content on my 2nd go. The game really had me in its grip. And I kept hearing "Witcher 3 is so much better than FFXV, it handles everything so much better, its side quests are so goddamn motherfucking fantastic, blah blah blah." So I got myself a copy of The Witcher 3, played it for about three hours, and will probably never touch it again. The world and characters couldn't be more bland and cliche, the mechanics are totally clunky... meh. So chalk me up as a bit of anecdotal evidence showing that liking one doesn't mean you'll like the other.
chromatic9
Member
The more westernised or even just modern life approach has gone down well. I heard many say they're glad its changed.
I respect what SE have done. They've created a cool title with good appeal and style but I personally don't like everyday culture from real life in FF games like smart phones, fast food.
I respect what SE have done. They've created a cool title with good appeal and style but I personally don't like everyday culture from real life in FF games like smart phones, fast food.
PshycoNinja
Member
I used to be like you.
Edit: To clarify, I like this news...if that wasn't clear. I am just not as optimistic as you are.
LordKasual
Banned
Hahahahhahahahahahahhaahhah
PshycoNinja
Member
Didn't we talk about this?
If you're interested, then you should go for it. Obviously, the people who like it are going to say to get it and the people who don't will say not to. The only way is to try it yourself. If you do end up deciding to play it, then I hope you enjoy it!
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yes which why i said the numbers were not to far off .
Not enough for a 900k drop .
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
This is so true lol
The denial even after positive news was hilarious. Glad we got NPD data is end that stuff.
You did well King.. now let's get you into dissidia and KH3. The FF franchise will see the dawn again for the 16 coming.
Noctis, saviour of the FF franchise ;___;
Mixture of being unable to see that FF13 does not dictate FF and the thirst for a next gen RPG like this.
Not just the West. Asia as well.
Permanently A
Junior Member
The sales are a good news because it means that XVI will now happen according to that 4chan leak. Its also a good news because it gives Square Enix the chance to make a modern Final Fantasy with an actual finished story this time around.
PshycoNinja
Member
But your statement suggests that PS4 hardware sales when XV released were better than PS3 hardware sales were when XIII released...
gundamkyoukai
Member
Yep should have word it better or put that sentence as another line .
This is neogaf so no.
Speak for yourself. Me and my girlfriend loved the story that was told.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Wife loved it. She Really got pissed
when prompto WAS taken lol
The voice actor for Noctis deserves and award, and immediately after that happened was one of his best deliveries.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Deserves an award anyway great delivery. Prompto too.
Its not better than XIII.Its equally bad in very different ways.
There are many ways a game can be terrible. XIII and XV both embody massive,massive flaws.
In some ways FFXV's latter half has all of XIII's deep flaws,but made even worse.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Next up Persona 5 doing record numbers. JRPG da new hotness!
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It isn't just because us westerners are suckers for open world fetch quests, right? Right?
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It isn't just because us westerners are suckers for open world fetch quests, right? Right?