How do they know if its boring if they dont watch anything?
The masses probably saw this of Gears. And its nothing boring at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2aU4EdQww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q0B1okadSo
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How do they know if its boring if they dont watch anything?
The masses probably saw this of Gears. And its nothing boring at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji2aU4EdQww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q0B1okadSo
RedAssedApe
Banned
skyrim remaster -_-
Tutomos
Member
PS4's fate this year will be tied with 3 games: Watch Dogs 2, COD: IW and FF 15. If these games are doing well, Sony will sell a lot of consoles. Early indication says that these games are doing ok (not sure about FF15 yet). Can't read too much into it right now but I bet Sony is already looking forward to next year when Destiny 2 and RDR 2 will come out and with marketing deals with Sony.
Star Wars too.
Hey man I was just trying to look out for you. Even the slightest chance of losing a bet to Ryng is just not worth it. *shudders*
Aye, Battlefront Ultimate edition seems like a decent value (wonder f we could see a return of the Battlefront bundle in December? Would be smart)
But Y'all forgetting TLG a bit quickly I reckon!
Early indications are that these games are underperforming severely.
Lol. Like I said it was just for fun. I was going for generic action drama opening with that post. I just figured your post would give some context to that conversation. I appreciate you looking out though. And I am glad I did not lose.
Omnistalgic
Member
Although first party holding less weight than third is obvious, you aren't looking at the strength of PS4 brand completely IMO.
There are a lot of exclusive indy titles, a lot of region specific titles that don't go to X1. PS4 has it's own proprietary VR, and a ton of games exclusives to it, or exclusive to it and PC because of that hardware. Sony's WWS is larger than MS as well. Fact is, PS4 has a significant amount of more software in general, and has appeal in many more territories outside of U.S.
MS's shrinking first party does not bode well for the future of Xbox IMO, it looks like its just going to become another brand of PC.
Comparing Quantum Break to a sequel in a franchise where games 1-3 all sold 3 million+ copies makes no sense at all.
Omnistalgic
Member
then what do they buy it for? Only third party games?
I think you guys are confusing first party is no where near as important as first party with "people don't buy consoles for first party titles" of course they do. Every title, wherever its from, adds to the library and appeal of the system.
And this is simply assbacksward for Nintendo consoles, where by and large, the consumers do buy it mostly for the first party titles.
wesleyshark
Banned
Ftfy
Why even respond to him? He works for a playstation only site and seems very biased in general. Best to ignore people like that.
RedAssedApe
Banned
lol...maybe its all the playstation owners who had a broken ps3 version
It will be on sale for $25 during BF. My prediction is that it will chart in November.
SuperSonic1305
Member
You know NPD threads are dead when something like this happens and this thread is still on life support. If this happened 3 years ago we'd be on page 50 already.
The reason these threads just aren't exciting is partly due to the new NPD format and also this is my assumption now. Nothing exciting is happening.
The biggest thing is the XBO winning 4 months in a row, but in all honesty we know nothing is changing. They still have to make up a 1.5 million gap.
Humdinger
Member
At least we're still getting numbers. I thought for a while all we'd be getting is a ranked list.
Information comes piecemeal now, rather than all in one evening. I think that makes the discussion more disjointed and harder to follow. Otoh, the huge threads moving at a breakneck pace are also hard to follow, so maybe a slower discussion is good in a way, too.
Information comes piecemeal now, rather than all in one evening. I think that makes the discussion more disjointed and harder to follow. Otoh, the huge threads moving at a breakneck pace are also hard to follow, so maybe a slower discussion is good in a way, too.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Yep.
I bet it gets a nice bump in March.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
welp, RIP Switch cuz you already know its third party gon be flabby
chromatic9
Member
If it was made by Epic and Cliffy B and part of a quadrilogy, yeah. Truth is Gears golden run was 1-3 and they've tried to reheat it with different devs teams on different generations, even if some work on the old ones its still a different team and its almost impossible to rebottle that. Crazy to think people thought Gears 4 would be taking Halo's mantle as a sales juggernaut. Maybe a full reboot in the universe on Scorpio but really I think we should be seeing high calibre replacements, Gears was new last gen, as was Mass Effect as was Uncharted, as Assassins Creed as Bioshock, Infamous and so on.
MS tried with Quantum Break but as with Alan Wake they both opened to low sales. QB was supposed to be a high production mega hit but both ip's to me are quite dull heavily influenced by early 2000s graveyard shift US television shows. I bought Alan Wake at a launch, don't get me wrong I'm just being honest. QB money was misplaced. Remedy should really be having fun instead of this dull serious tone they have going. You have a blank slate of infinite possibilities yet the side stuff in the game is much interesting, tap into that.
I think most expected GOW 4 to under-perform compared to UC4. Granted it under-performed a lot more than most expected but the result isn't that shocking to those of us who regularly track and talk sales.
I think, given the performance of Gears and Halo, if there was any doubt as to whether MS' strategy to build dev studios around existing IP previously form different developers doesn't pay dividends for them that should be dispelled now. It always seemed like a terrible strategy to me to focus on building an IP over building a development studio but many seemed to think it was a valid one. I think the results thus far have proven otherwise. The goal for longterm success should be to cultivate talent and allow that talent to express themselves creatively not this sort of laser focus on building a specific IP.
A lot of people left for good when the numbers went away.
I felt QB really didn't do anything new though. It was a third person shooter, but it felt like a game many played before. It felt like Max Payne but with prettier visuals and a few new bullet time moves. Nothing about it really felt all that interesting.
Norse
Member
Today's npd numbers are far different from numbers of old when digital wasn't an option. Now roughly 30% of sales are digital so the sales numbers being reported don't always include them unless noted that they do.
So, some titles could be missing 30% of their sales. The top 10 in sales isn't really accurate any more.
And where are the hdwr #'s ? Weren't those supposed to come out today?
So, some titles could be missing 30% of their sales. The top 10 in sales isn't really accurate any more.
And where are the hdwr #'s ? Weren't those supposed to come out today?
I think the argument is that even with 30-40% digital ratio some of them are way down in sales
Hasn't it been reported that in most cases it's 30% for week 1 (due to the day 1 effect as well) but that it then falls lower than that?
Hardware was reported earlier this morning.
OfficerRaichu15
Member
Any preiditctions for IW and POKE SM?
Compared to last gen launch aligned:
Xbox 360: 371,000
PlayStation 3: 320,600
Wii: 506,900
Sony screwed up by not having a 4k media drive in ps4 slim/pro. Whether it gets used or not XB1 has a competitive advantage by just including the drive. 249 Black Friday for a 4k player is tempting. Plus MS benefiting by having a promo with what is looking to be the hot holiday game (BF1).
Speaking of BF1, is this the year BF overtakes CoD?
Speaking of BF1, is this the year BF overtakes CoD?
Primethius
Banned
If CoD debuts to less then BF1...
Holy shit. That would actually be, IMO, the biggest drop off of 2016.
Abdiel has already said that it's not as big of a deal as people try to make it out to be. The primary reason XB1 has been selling more is due its lower price.
statham
Member
This maybe kinda OT, but IMO what MS is trying to do. With the blunder of 2013, selling a more expensive kinect console which the core hated and being weaker, a large percent of the core gamers left MS to PS4. MS knows the errors, cancels kinect, squeezes out as much as they can from XBO with updates, unlocking stuff. Also greenlighting more core projects, Getting Gears, MCC, Rare Replay, BC, sales are low on first party titles because a large % of peeps(core buyers) already jumped shipped, they buy every big game, now they are on PS4. PS4 wants to save that same core from jumping ship to PC, thus PS4.5, MS wants them all back thus Scorpio. Just rambling, but thats my take.
Norse
Member
gundamkyoukai
Member
The thing is COD has already drop off but it also goes up back depending on the game .
If i remember right COD Black Ops III sold better than last 1 or 2 COD games before it .
Hype for this one seem like it at a all time low but next one it could always rebound.
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Liabe Brave
Member
Or, if you believe Welfare's approach of competition-matching is more accurate to the real situation:
Xbox 360: 250,000
Playstation 3: 320,600
Wii: 506,900
Welfare
Member
Which is actually pretty similar to this year results if you exclude Wii.
XB1: 329,000
PS3: 320,600
360: 249,700
PS4: 235,100
Dash_Riprock
Member
So years from now when people look back at this gen which will be seen as the dumber decision: Titanfall 2's release date or Rise of the Tomb Raider's timed exclusivity?
Primethius
Banned
Yea, but I don't think any CoD games have dropped as low as debuting to 1.2-1.4 million have they?
Maybe Ghosts?
Definitely ROTRs timed deal. Titanfall 2s failure had far more factors involved then ROTR, which largely starts and ends with idiotic SE decisions.
Welfare
Member
Apparently SE already has another Tomb Raider in production so they don't care. TF2 however probably killed the franchise.
Sangetsu-II
Member
And I would bet that when they do announce it, it will have PlayStation marketing all over it to win back the fans xD
The damage is already done.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Huh? I didn't think the gap was that big in the US. I thought I was far less than than that.
Dash_Riprock
Member
MS ignoring all but the last 3 months of the year really bit them in the ass this gen.