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[Vasto]

As if "QLED" can compare to OLED. There's a reason Samsung is trying to confuse consumers with their QLED moniker. And also why they're investing in making OLED panels for next year or so.

The only reason to choose one over an OLED is if you live on the Sun or you don't want to have to baby a TV.

You dont know anything about TVs either.

 

[Ulysses 31]

I was flip flopping between a C9 and Q90R towards the end of last year. Started off wanting C9 then went more towards Q90R. I really like some of the Samsung stuff like OneConnect Box, good brightness and low reflections. When push came to shove though any time I saw them both in a shop, side by side, playing the same content - the C9 just looked noticeably better. That was my preference, some people prefer the brightness and pop of the QLEDs. They are both great TVs. Finally pulled the trigger on a C9 4 weeks ago and I am really happy with it. See if you can find them playing the same content somewhere and compare.

Seems you fell in one of the traps of buying a new TV based on what's in the store.

 

[Vasto]

Seems you fell in one of the traps of buying a new TV based on what's in the store.

This video is GOLD and some of the things I just said here is a guy saying the exact same thing.

 

[Vasto]

Hisense H9F Takes On LG Oled..And Wins!






Again, no such thing as Wins. No such thing as better.

Its all about what kind of picture a person likes and he clearly likes the QLED.

 

[TheBoss1]

You dont know anything about TVs either.

You don't know anything about me either.

 

[TheBoss1]

OLED is not better. You have to know what kind if image you like. You are not compromising by choosing QLED because it offers a different picture than a OLED does. QLEDS offer a brighter, vibrant and more colorful picture compared to OLEDS picture. Also the worst thing a person can do is make their decision buy looking at those TVs in a store running those demos. You need to see what real content looks like.

Here is a video I recently saw where a guy first bought a Q90 and him and his family loved it but it was defective so he switched it out to a C9 OLED because the place he bought it from was giving him a hard time on his return. His family hated the C9 OLED.

You can jump through all the hoops you want to but it's not even an opinion of which technology is TECHNICALLY better. What does LCD screens do better over an OLED? Brightness? Less burn-in? What else?

I completely agree with your view on buying TVs based on store displays but even then it benefits LCD screens way more since the bright lighting can hide the gray blacks, uniformity, blooming and they can over-saturate the image for more pop.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Generally OLED for movies, QLED for gaming, sports.

OLED has much better specs for gaming at this point. Curious why you came to that conclusion.

 

[DrDamn]

Go for the QLED because that is where the value is.

For the price of a 55 inch OLED you can get a 75 inch QLED.

Depends where you live. The Samsung Q90R was still £300 more expensive than the C9 - both at 55" - when I got mine.

Seems you fell in one of the traps of buying a new TV based on what's in the store.

Yes aware of that . I'll caveat the advice with going to a good store. Not a big electronics giant but a small specialist where both TVs have been well set up and they let you play with them.

 

[Vasto]

You can jump through all the hoops you want to but it's not even an opinion of which technology is TECHNICALLY better. What does LCD screens do better over an OLED? Brightness? Less burn-in? What else?

I completely agree with your view on buying TVs based on store displays but even then it benefits LCD screens way more since the bright lighting can hide the gray blacks, uniformity, blooming and they can over-saturate the image for more pop.

The only think OLED does better is black levels.

 

[Moses85]

OLED

Over and out!

 

[Vasto]

Depends where you live. The Samsung Q90R was still £300 more expensive than the C9 - both at 55" - when I got mine.



Yes aware of that . I'll caveat the advice with going to a good store. Not a big electronics giant but a small specialist where both TVs have been well set up and they let you play with them.

Samsung is not even worth buying anymore. Every year they nerf their tvs more and more.

Take a look at QLEDs from TCL, Hisense and Vizio.

 

[dsk1210]

Oled C9 hands down, I have owned 3 oled TVs and never had a problem with burn in, the positives far outway the negatives.

 

[TheBoss1]

The only think OLED does better is black levels.

False.

 

[b0bbyJ03]

I bought a B6 OLED almost 4 years ago and there is no going back. I've got a small samsung QLED and the OLED has honestly ruined all other displays for me. There's a huge difference in picture depth. OLED almost looks 3 dimensional at times. Makes any LCD seem flat by comparison. I wouldn't even consider an LCD moving forward and already plan on replacing my PC monitor with the CX 48" thats coming soon.

 

[LiamR]

OLED for all.

 

[EverydayBeast]

4K OLED HDR is what you want and hopefully 40in +

 

[V2Tommy]

OLED for everything. Stop being cheap. Treat yourself!

 

[Ulysses 31]

OLED has much better specs for gaming at this point. Curious why you came to that conclusion.

Because you can play the same game(s) for as long as you want without negative side effects. If you're a varied gamer then it's less of an issue.

 

[Inanilmaz]

If you use your tv over 2hours per day -≥ LED

 

[SLoWMoTIoN]

Hello. I am considering purchasing a new tv, and I was thinking of getting the C9 OLED. Unfortunately, I’ve been reading horror stories about burn in, and has me sitting on the fence with my purchase decision. On the other hand, I am looking at QLED, and on Rtings I’ve read many good things in regards to gaming and overall PQ. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Get a monitor instead they shit all over tv's but if you don't mind spending that much on a tv go for it. But yes there is a chance of burn (static images will do this) in no matter what anybody tells you. The Samsung Q70 and Sony X950 are good alternatives to OLED.

 

[DryvBy]

I went with a Sony Bravia 950 recently and am very happy. The LG OLED was the same price but I don't want to risk burn in. I use my TV a ton, way more than the average user, and the idea of having to Shell out for another in a few years due to burn in sounded awful. But it seems kind of rare too.

Looking at both the OLED and the Sony I ended up with at the end of the day, the Sony looked almost identical to me.

 

[BacklashWave534]

Because you can play the same game(s) for as long as you want without negative side effects. If you're a varied gamer then it's less of an issue.

Ah, the burn in issue. I've heard a ton of conflicting stories. I've heard people are still doing hardcore gaming on their C6s without issue while some people claim they got burn in on their newer C8s and 9s. I doubt either group isn't telling the truth. Just sucks that the tech is so promising yet has such a huge possible drawback. If it were cheaper i would probably take my chances.

 

[reconminicon]

I bought a C9 recently and it's pretty unbelievable. I'm not that worried about the possibility of burn in, and personally I would take it over LCD even if it had some burn in right out of the box, as I would still enjoy it more. I wouldn't want to give it up for anything else right now. I use it almost entirely for gaming by the way.

Take no notice of this guy

 

[Shambala]

Oled. Only broke boys gonna say lcd . Jk

 

[93xfan]

False equivalence, having an LCD TV on for long periods of time with the same content isn't abuse of that TV.

It’s just nice not having to worry about burn in at all, especially if for some reason you forgot to turn off the tv one time before being gone all night.

 

[mekes]

Best advice I can give is to buy from somewhere that will let you demo the screen for faults and problems. I had 5 replacements in total after buying 2 new TVs a few years ago.

 

[Psajdak]

I don't understand people who complain about burn in...

I mean, if you see it, just put something in front of it, and you won't see it anymore.

 

[Gargus]

Buying a TV with a good panel in it is way more important than worrying about led vs oled.

Doesn't matter which one you pick if it has a shitty to mediocre panel in it a good panel in the other one will blow it out of the water.

Even like a samsung tv that's 400 bucks and says its 4k is going to have cheap led backlit panel that is worth 400 bucks. I bought a 1200 dollar Samsung led for my bedroom and it's nice as hell and 4k movies looks amazing on it. I bought the same tv for 900 later for my game room and it's fantastic. Bought a 350 dollar Samsung for the stepsons room and while it's better his old one its just ok because it has a 350 black Friday panel in it.

 

[Gargus]

Best advice I can give is to buy from somewhere that will let you demo the screen for faults and problems. I had 5 replacements in total after buying 2 new TVs a few years ago.

Then you have either the worst luck, or are buying garbage TVs. I only buy Samsung ones and occasionally a Sony one and never had even so much as one dead pixel in the past 15 years. And I've picked out multiple tvs for family members to buy without a problem either.

If you are trying to buy a nice TV on a budget you'll get garbage, or subpar picture quality. You want a good tv you have to buy a good brand and ready to spend a decent chunk of change.

 

[mekes]

Then you have either the worst luck, or are buying garbage TVs. I only buy Samsung ones and occasionally a Sony one and never had even so much as one dead pixel in the past 15 years. And I've picked out multiple tvs for family members to buy without a problem either.

If you are trying to buy a nice TV on a budget you'll get garbage, or subpar picture quality. You want a good tv you have to buy a good brand and ready to spend a decent chunk of change.

Just bad luck. Top of the range Samsung and Panasonic sets, but it has made buying a flat screen tv a nightmare scenario for me. I’ve had Sony sets I’ve sent back for exactly the same reason, but from my purchase prior - during the 1080p panel days.

 

[dotnotbot]

Buying a TV with a good panel in it is way more important than worrying about led vs oled.

Doesn't matter which one you pick if it has a shitty to mediocre panel in it a good panel in the other one will blow it out of the water.

In OLED world all TVs use pretty much the same panel. The only real difference between TVs, apart from features, is near-black handling, in which LG OLEDs are the worst, but C9-E9 are finally good at it. There are also small differences in peak brightness but the ~550 on B9 and ~750 on C9 isn't as big of a difference as people think.

 

[holygeesus]

The only think OLED does better is black levels.

You've never owned one right? Try watching an LCD at a slight angle. Also try and ignore the blooming. Also dirty screen effect. Whoever suggested LCDs have more accurate colour is also having a laugh.

Both TVs have their pluses and minuses, and you are right, there is no 'best' but some of the misinformation in here, spread by people who think they know it all because they've seen a video on YouTube, is ridiculous.

 

[slade]

Simple fact of the matter is that you don't own an OLED, it owns you. You have to baby that thing even worse then a real live baby.

Over the past five weeks I've been playing Sekiro nonstop. There have been times I've had to pause at a particular boss fight to look up some strategies online. In that instance, the TV has stayed paused for sometimes 15-20 minutes. Not long enough to cause burn in but there is a cumulative effect on OLED screens. That will always be on my mind and I don't care to stress about that.

If you feel like paying thousands for a high end device that you have to babysit constantly while still worrying about the very real issues that it has, then OLED is for you.

 

[Vasto]

You've never owned one right? Try watching an LCD at a slight angle. Also try and ignore the blooming. Also dirty screen effect. Whoever suggested LCDs have more accurate colour is also having a laugh.

Both TVs have their pluses and minuses, and you are right, there is no 'best' but some of the misinformation in here, spread by people who think they know it all because they've seen a video on YouTube, is ridiculous.

Never owned one and never will because I do not like the picture of OLED. I like the more vibrant, brighter picture of QLED and most of all I love the prices.

Dirty Screen effect is random. It is something that can happen depending on panel lottery. It is not something that a person is guaranteed to have. When buying a new LCD you can simply go to YouTube and run a DSE check on your TV. If it has DSE then return it for another. I would rather worry about DSE anyday over Burn In because I can just return the TV from the start if I have DSE. Cant do that with burn in since its something that will take time to happen. See the post above this one for example.

I have a LCD that I watch at an angle mostly because it is in the living room and I am always sitting at my pc in the bedroom. If you watch at an angle then look for a tv that has good viewing angles.

Blooming is depended on the performance of local dimming. Buy a tv with good local dimming if you want to avoid blooming.

If you want the best accurate color then check your tvs color ratings on sites like RTINGS. You will find Out Of The Box Pre Calibration ratings and then you will find Calibrated ratings which is going be be best.


TVs have gotten to the point where they are product that you have to research and know about. The days of just walking in Walmart and buying a 32 inch Sharp and coming home are over.

 

[Spukc]

Go for the QLED because that is where the value is.

For the price of a 55 inch OLED you can get a 75 inch QLED.

Get a projector OP!

For the price of 75 inch Qled.
You can get like 4 projectors to make like a 500 inch screen !

 

[TheBoss1]

Never owned one and never will because I do not like the picture of OLED. I like the more vibrant, brighter picture of QLED and most of all I love the prices.

Dirty Screen effect is random. It is something that can happen depending on panel lottery. It is not something that a person is guaranteed to have. When buying a new LCD you can simply go to YouTube and run a DSE check on your TV. If it has DSE then return it for another. I would rather worry about DSE anyday over Burn In because I can just return the TV from the start if I have DSE. Cant do that with burn in since its something that will take time to happen. See the post above this one for example.

I have a LCD that I watch at an angle mostly because it is in the living room and I am always sitting at my pc in the bedroom. If you watch at an angle then look for a tv that has good viewing angles.

Blooming is depended on the performance of local dimming. Buy a tv with good local dimming if you want to avoid blooming.

If you want the best accurate color then check your tvs color ratings on sites like RTINGS. You will find Out Of The Box Pre Calibration ratings and then you will find Calibrated ratings which is going be be best.


TVs have gotten to the point where they are product that you have to research and know about. The days of just walking in Walmart and buying a 32 inch Sharp and coming home are over.

How much you getting paid to hate on OLED? You talk quite a bit about everything bad with the tech for someone who has ZERO experience with it. Imagine paying similar prices for a LCD TV because it's called QLED, a name that's trying to confuse customers into thinking it's similar to OLED. It's not even real Quantum Dot tech. It's a LCD TV with a filter lol

 

[MilkyJoe]

Hello. I am considering purchasing a new tv, and I was thinking of getting the C9 OLED. Unfortunately, I’ve been reading horror stories about burn in, and has me sitting on the fence with my purchase decision. On the other hand, I am looking at QLED, and on Rtings I’ve read many good things in regards to gaming and overall PQ. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Samsung Q90R

 

[Ulysses 31]

Samsung Q90R

The Samsung HW-Q90R Soundbar has nice synergy with Samsung QLED TVs too!

 

[Okami Haundo]

I opted for LED when I bought my most recent TV, but it's mostly about longevity for me. I tend to keep TV's around even after I get a new model, so an OLED would eventually have burn-in no matter what I do.

That, and I have a room with tons of direct sunlight hitting my TV throughout the day. It sometimes heats my LED TV up enough that I'll need to shut it down for a bit or restart. Not willing to gamble on what that would do to an OLED.

 

[Blood Borne]

OLED.
LED is garbage. Washed out colours.

 

[Vasto]

How much you getting paid to hate on OLED?

So now I am hating on OLED by saying that its not for me.

 

[TheBoss1]

So now I am hating on OLED by saying that its not for me.

Because it's obvious you stan "QLED" TVs so you will push misinformation to dissuade others from trying to buy OLED. You are literally comparing TVs with mediocre quality to an OLED. How is a TV with shit contrast even comparable to one with an infinite contrast ratio? They're not even remotely in the same class. As long as you have gray blacks your night time viewing will be shit compared to OLED. Nothing vibrant about that. If you said burn in only I wouldn't even say you're wrong, but you try to compare the picture quality with a Hisense LOL

 

[Spukc]

let people get QLED man who the fuck cares,
I heard OLED's can explode

 

[JohnnyFootball]

The only think OLED does better is black levels.

OLED has drastically better pixel response time than even TN panels. If they could get it small enough it would be the defacto monitors for competitive gamers.

 

[Vasto]

Because it's obvious you stan "QLED" TVs so you will push misinformation to dissuade others from trying to buy OLED. You are literally comparing TVs with mediocre quality to an OLED. How is a TV with shit contrast even comparable to one with an infinite contrast ratio? They're not even remotely in the same class. As long as you have gray blacks your night time viewing will be shit compared to OLED. Nothing vibrant about that. If you said burn in only I wouldn't even say you're wrong, but you try to compare the picture quality with a Hisense LOL

Like I first said, you dont know anything about TVs. The more you talk the more obvious it becomes.

To sit here and say that QLED Tvs are mediocre quality and have shit contrast is just silly. You are hating on QLED instead of actually giving constructive pros / cons. Sorry but communicating on this level is beneath me so I guess we will have to just disagree to agree.

 

[MilkyJoe]

OLED.
LED is garbage. Washed out colours.

Get amongst the QLED

 

[Ulysses 31]

Hisense H9F Takes On LG Oled..And Wins!






Again, no such thing as Wins. No such thing as better.

Its all about what kind of picture a person likes and he clearly likes the QLED.

Surely that must be the camera exaggerating the blue/greenish tints on the OLED compared to the more budget LCD...

 

[Falunne]

All I can say is that I love my B9. Amazing picture and color and almost no input lag at all. But I did switch from a 10 year old LCD TV - so maybe that’s why I’m blown away...

Been playing a lot of COD for the last months. Weekends easily end up 8-10 hours of endless shoothouse. I’m pretty lazy too - sometimes leave it in the menus for a longer period of time because I get caught up eating or whatever. I have absolutely no burn in.

 

[Ulysses 31]

All I can say is that I love my B9. Amazing picture and color and almost no input lag at all. But I did switch from a 10 year old LCD TV - so maybe that’s why I’m blown away...

Been playing a lot of COD for the last months. Weekends easily end up 8-10 hours of endless shoothouse. I’m pretty lazy too - sometimes leave it in the menus for a longer period of time because I get caught up eating or whatever. I have absolutely no burn in.

You'd need about 1000h of static content for burn-in to become noticable.

 

[Falunne]

You'd need about 1000h of static content for burn-in to become noticable.

Well, maybe that explains it I still love it though!