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And what concessions does Sony have to make to remain "desirable"?
Seems about right..
Apparently many here have a hard time discerning Executive speak... This is what Phil is really trying to say..
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And what concessions does Sony have to make to remain "desirable"?
And didn't announce Starfield or Redfall, which maybe means they'll focus their post acquisition new ips on being (timed or total) console exclusive and their pre-acquisition IPs on being multi.
No one may get a 2023 COD anyhow
By this logic why doesn't Sony publish God of War, Horizon, and GT7 on the Xbox? I'm sure they want Xbox fans' money as much if not more than PC and PS5 owners. They don't because you don't publish your biggest games on your competitor's consoles. That's why Bethesda and Activision games are going to be exclusive.
Sony aren't the ones all in on a subscription service.By this logic why doesn't Sony publish God of War, Horizon, and GT7 on the Xbox? I'm sure they want Xbox fans' money as much if not more than PC and PS5 owners. They don't because you don't publish your biggest games on your competitor's consoles. That's why Bethesda and Activision games are going to be exclusive.
Not at all. Who said that? Like I said before, this hurts Sony way more than MS. Sony's best selling game for the last decade is COD. This is a big blow.You think Sony is on the verge of bankruptcy or something?
basically is this“Our desire to have cod on PlayStation .....but PlayStation doesn’t want game pass. So shrugs .... keep playing warzone “
Some of you are in denial.
No one may get a 2023 COD anyhow
Uhhh ... 140 billion is more than twice as much as 68 billion, and MS offered a pretty large premium on what Activision was valued at at the time of the announcement. The Playstation Brand is surely a large part of Sony's valuation and would also demand a large premium to sell.I'm talking about what made the industry what it is.games and cod is the most important (lucrative) game in the world. Hardware and platforms without those important games fail no matter who you are . ...look at what was happening at the start of the Xbox one gen.
About the value of the division sure that on a selling the division would take more but also you will understand alone that the division of a 140b company can't be valued higher than the entire company right ? ahahah
Not at all. Who said that? Like I said before, this hurts Sony way more than MS. Sony's best selling game for the last decade is COD. This is a big blow.
The only one I can think of is Rise of the Tomb Raider. I don't think Sony cared so much about losing that one because Uncharted was slated to release around the same time.This is a spin response and MS has done the above as well.
They can't tell them in public that would be illegal but best believe they will talk behind close doors2023 COD is already deep in development, it's definitely happening (and MS won't even own ActiBlizzard until mid-2023, so they can't tell them what to do until then). 2024 might not though.
If you mean this interview it could be an assumption of the interviewer, as happened with Jimbo's 'we believe in generations' sentence and crossgen games, or could even be a timed exclusive:Spencer already said Elder Scrolls VI is exclusive.
2023 COD is already deep in development, it's definitely happening (and MS won't even own ActiBlizzard until mid-2023, so they can't tell them what to do until then). 2024 might not though.
They can't tell them in public but best believe they will talk behind close doors
Phil speaking with a forked tongue like a lizzard....again.
You guys don’t get it. Ms wants to eventually be the go to digital platform in the future when there are no more dedicated hardware. At that point they want Sony to publish on that platform to make lots of money.. not to destroy Sony.
wake me up when Bloodborne or any other niche game make the money that any of the worst cod made.Uhhh ... 140 billion is more than twice as much as 68 billion, and MS offered a pretty large premium on what Activision was valued at at the time of the announcement. The Playstation Brand is surely a large part of Sony's valuation and would also demand a large premium to sell.
"ahahah" ... Choo? Just sounded like you were about to sneeze there.
So out of nowhere COD is now the "MOST IMPORTANT" game in the world? That's one hell of a title that was pulled out of thin air. And again, it's just one franchise. It's better to have a lot of very successful and "lucrative" games than just one series, which is why companies like Sony and Nintendo dwarf Activision in total sales. CoD is just one series, and it has surely peaked. Why do you think Activision was trying to unload itself?
Seriously, what gives with you?
After rereading the Tweet I think he actually meant that he desires to keep COD on PlayStation by acquiring them.
We'll commit sedoku before bowing to the rat overlord
Who does this hurt more? Sure as hell doesn't hurt MS. Sony can't take losses like MS can. It's just a reality.You said Sony couldn't take losses. You are wrong. They can. But after Spencer's statement, I don't think they will. It isn't in either of their interests due to the Azure partnership.
A 70% of the revenue generated by their almost 120M PS4 and almost 15M PS5 users. Plus pretty likely a handsome marketing deal.And what concessions does Sony have to make to remain "desirable"?
Who does this hurt more? Sure as hell doesn't hurt MS. Sony can't take losses like MS can. It's just a reality.
let's see how this ages
When did I say they couldn't survive? What are you talking about?No, I agree with you. But Sony can survive this. Factually, they have survived much worse.
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A single example makes them just as guilty<=>your point nil.The only one I can think of is Rise of the Tomb Raider. I don't think Sony cared so much about losing that one because Uncharted was slated to release around the same time.
Anyway, time exclusives are stupid.
I doubt CoD will release on PlayStation again, maybe this next upcoming one will, but all future CoD's will be on Game Pass devices.
and 120 1080there's always a $299 box to play COD at 1440p/60fps !
So many on team Blue couldn't handle thatAfter rereading the Tweet I think he actually meant that he desires to keep COD on PlayStation by acquiring them.
When did I say they couldn't survive? What are you talking about?
This hurts Sony more than MS. And MS can take losses. Sony cannot.
Sony probably has a mult-year multi-mllion deal about COD being first on Playstation. Along with Exclusive 1 year DLC. Sony probably wants to see if Microsoft is committed in honoring those commitments.All existing agreements. So the next CoD game. You cant force a company to put their games on other platforms. Otherwise, Google wouldve started suing Playstation because they wouldnt put Spiderman on Stadia.
Also, he will force them to put Gamepass on PSN before he allows CoD on there. As he should. Otherwise, it's a gigantic waste of $70 billion.
So where does it say Sony can't survive? Can you post the quote where i said "Sony can't survive" keyword survive. I'll wait.So can Sony take losses or not?
Fuck sake you can't be this naive?Yep. That's a definite statement
Keep reading. "our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation"
So where does it say Sony can't survive? Can you post the quote where i said "Sony can't survive" keyword survive. I'll wait.
Fuck sake you can't be this naive?
Existing contracts they will honour.
Our desire means fuck all. It's just another way for saying put Gamepass on PS and you can have Cod.
COD only sells about 5-6M a year on PS. It’s about 20-30M across all platforms.A 70% of the revenue generated by their almost 120M PS4 and almost 15M PS5 users. Plus pretty likely a handsome marketing deal.
I'm not dramatic whatsoever. You apparently can't understand the English language, not my fault.Stop being dramatic. If that isn't what you meant then we have no disagreement.
No, I agree with you. But Sony can survive this. Factually, they have survived much worse.