I mean if your expectation is that Trump should be in handcuffs by the end of the day, then yes, every development in this story is going to disappoint you.
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I mean if your expectation is that Trump should be in handcuffs by the end of the day, then yes, every development in this story is going to disappoint you.
Box of Kittens
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Trump's approval hits 30 (not 30%, 30 people).
"Yeah, but those people will never abandon him."
"Yeah, but those people will never abandon him."
Kid Kamikaze10
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More than that, their active strategy is Nixon's failed defense.
Futurevoid
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Getting ready for that DHS secretary job.....
Getting ready for that DHS secretary job.....
Confirmation hearing would be hilariously bad
Journeywalker
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60% of Trump supporters cannot think of anything he could do to lose their support. It's going to take a lot to break that floor.
Didn't he take himself out of consideration for DHS? Could've sworn I just read that a day or two ago.
Futurevoid
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I'm being (somewhat) facetious. The current view is that he resigned because he's going to run for the Senate against Baldwin.
whyamihere
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He's running for Senate isn't he.
whyamihere
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Yup. This is how you attempt to undermine it.
Axios (@axios)
BREAKING: HHS announces it's cutting the advertising budget for ACA by 90% https://t.co/TYKlQKRkFH
Alice Ollstein (@AliceOllstein)
They are also cutting funding for navigators (who help people sign up for health insurance) by 41% https://t.co/xVd9oBoSEk
"Sharp" is an understatement.
It might as well not exist for ad budget to ACA any longer.
BREAKING: HHS announces it's cutting the advertising budget for ACA by 90% https://t.co/TYKlQKRkFH
Alice Ollstein (@AliceOllstein)
They are also cutting funding for navigators (who help people sign up for health insurance) by 41% https://t.co/xVd9oBoSEk
"Sharp" is an understatement.
It might as well not exist for ad budget to ACA any longer.
ArkhamFantasy
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Didnt polls already say that voters will hold republicans responsible if they try to sabotage ACA?
Yeah, but I doubt they care the same way about advertising for it.
Frank the Great
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The ACA stuff is so petty and he's just opening the door to ownership over any future problems.
Hopefully non-profit groups pick up the slack.
Hopefully non-profit groups pick up the slack.
Futurevoid
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Here's the bill in question:
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/3542
It's basically DACA as law. Good for him.
Aaron Strife
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This is good.
I've long believed that the DREAM Act, Obama's immigration bill, etc. would receive significant Republican support and pass the House easily if they were just put up to a floor vote. Republicans need to stand up to their base on this one.
StopMakingSense
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This is a very invisible method of sabotage,
I think people would notice the lack of advertising around sign-up time.
StopMakingSense
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Without advertising they wouldn't even know that it was sign-up time.
Nice. I hope we'll chalk this up as another L for Trump.
Nailing him on the Russian stuff seems unrealistic - facing opposition and failing at everything he tries is far more realistic.
BoogieWoogie
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I think you'd have more than enough votes for this. Good shit.
If thats true, would it survive a veto?
GoldenEye 007
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Well hopefully they'll then ask "Why wasn't I told about this?"
Aaron Strife
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The immigration bill passed by a vetoproof in the Senate in 2013, although Democrats have lost ground since then. We'll see.
IIRC DACA didn't grant citizenship did it? Just allowed people to stay. You could probably win over some Republicans on that merit since it wouldn't be full amnesty.
skullmuffins
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perhaps not, but then Trump would have to own ending it. Right now the admin position is that the DACA program is illegal w/o legislation supporting it... he can't say he was just following the law if he vetos a bill.
Yeah, it just gave them a work permit and let them stay without deportation.
Dominican Power
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Trump is a POS, news at 10.
This reminds me of the woman in the Vox story who is a navigator and voted for Trump anyways.
Brawndo Addict
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Hmm, I'm not sure how to take this. Like with any technical subject matter, the media could very well be blowing things out of proportion. I imagine the excerpt is probably from an introductory section outlining or establishing the overarching legal framework for analysis. Obviously the real meat is in the details which they don't really provide:
Touting a legal memo without describing the case law they used is like looking at a doctor's note without reference to symptoms. Of course they're going to state a general conclusion/prognosis, the relevant question is how they are supporting that conclusion. Are they arguing that the authority should be absolute and have no restrictions whatsoever (I highly doubt it)? Or are they arguing that it's a threshold question and that Trump didn't cross it based on reference to other cases?
Very hard to read into this without more information. That said, the fact they wrote the memo at all basically confirms that obstruction is on the table.
Touting a legal memo without describing the case law they used is like looking at a doctor's note without reference to symptoms. Of course they're going to state a general conclusion/prognosis, the relevant question is how they are supporting that conclusion. Are they arguing that the authority should be absolute and have no restrictions whatsoever (I highly doubt it)? Or are they arguing that it's a threshold question and that Trump didn't cross it based on reference to other cases?
Very hard to read into this without more information. That said, the fact they wrote the memo at all basically confirms that obstruction is on the table.
Mark Andrew
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DHS Awards Four Contracts for Border Wall Prototypes
Serious question, where is this money coming from?
Serious question, where is this money coming from?
Futurevoid
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They had 21 million left over from the previous budget they were supposed to be using for this purpose.
BoogieWoogie
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Is it see through and powered by the sun?
Aaron Strife
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Oh Christ that woman.
"What do you think when Trump says he wants to repeal Obamacare"
"He doesn't mean that"
Everyone tied themselves into pretzel knots to give Trump the absolute benefit of the doubt even when it was crystal clear that 1) he has no idea what he was talking about, 2) he has no intention of following through on any of his inane promises, and 3) he is a reprehensible human being.
People claim the poor, stupid white working class was simply hoodwinked by Trump, but not all delusion comes out of ignorance. Clinton's view of the world was 100% true and it wasn't nice - yes, those coal jobs are lost forever. There probably isn't going to be the political will to enact a totally new healthcare system, so it's better to fix our current one. You need to pay your fucking taxes and eat your vegetables.
Trump by contrast promised that everyone would have better healthcare, better jobs, and a fucking unicorn in every garage. I don't think anyone seriously believed he could do it - but they wanted to.
Just another reminder that the fight over the ACA still isn't over.
Spoiled Milk
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Petty? An attack on healthcare is not petty, it is an ideological and partisan assault on the country.
Love their plan of publically sabotaging the ACA to then turn around and say SEE ITS FAILING JUST LIKE WE SAID ALL ALONG!
This man is so fucking petty. The government literally not able to do its job to help people.
Mark Andrew
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He may be petty but he lacks foresight. This sets him up to take the blame when enrollments inevitably decline and premiums spike. Also probably not a good idea to do this when it inevitably becomes a point of contention in budget/debt ceiling negotiations - both of which need to be wrapped up within a month.
ShadowSwordmaster
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Oh wow.
I mean, they did the same thing with government "it's not the answer it's the problem" then sabotaged it themselves through obstruction or malfeasance and people still tag along on that. Why should healthcare be different?
AntraxSuicide
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I'd say the word petty is a descriptor of intent, not the act itself. And Trump is only doing this because he hates Obama. It's not ideological for him.
VendettaRed07
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This is what they do with everything.
Gut government program funding.
See, ____ program doesn't work.
he was hacked 20 years ago by skinheads at a heavy metal concert intent on ruining his good name decades later!
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