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Airbus Jr
Banned
Insecure beta male getting triggered bcos a female indian beat a predatorwtf even is this discussion at this point, lol.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
Interesting to note:
One group is criticizing the film.
The other group is attacking the people for criticizing the film.
One group is criticizing the film.
The other group is attacking the people for criticizing the film.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Youre not criticizing the movie you clearly have agenda and despise the movie for having female protagonist and derail the thread into woke vs anti woke
Look at the original woke vs anti woke debate on this thread
Youre the one who started it
I mean look at this disgusting post by one of your misogyny friend J jason10mm
This is a war/violence genre, it is so dominated by men that the women who engage in it can practically be singled out by name versus the MILLIONS of names males next to them
No offence but some of you folks here are realy messed up
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PaddyOCanager
Member
No, you're criticizing a different version of the film that exists only in your head.
Naru's brother is the strongest warrior in the film, he is portrayed as noble and better than her at everything. She wants to be like him, and the film doesn't raise her up at the expense of his character. He expresses worry towards her, as any good brother would. But he also believes in her and supports her. Their relationship is entirely believable.
She never "one ups" him, degrades him....she only wants to win his approval and the tribe's. "Woke" female characters don't give a shit about anyone because they always know best and men are useless to them, only existing to stand in their way. They are already good at everything and the only reason they haven't achieved greatness is because they've been held down.
No one gives a shit about her beating up the 4 Frenchmen because they are the film's equivalent of Stormtroopers. At this point in the movie she is becoming a badass and has earned it, plus no sane person wants to see their protagonist beat up by nobodies in a campy action film.
Not as good as men, that's for sure. I'm just calling you out on your statement that she didn't beat up all those french guys in the movie.
Relating to characters in movies is a major reason why people watch movies in the first place, hence why guys want badass masculine protagonists. Why do you think 50 Shades Of Gray is so popular among women? Same principle.
It CAN work with female action heroes, Ripley from Alien comes to mind. I suspect it worked so well with her since she's somewhat "manly" in those movies...not some tiny Mary Sue.
So no, that's NOT it. Try again.
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JayK47
Member
I imagine they do not all look the same.Other points aside, this redesign of the Predator's face is absolutely shite. Why even do it?
I was talking about the Prey movie specifically being average. I didn't even mention any other movie. Nice try though.Fuck.
All these crappy average movies.
I hate how woke movies have been since the eighties.
Werewolf Jones
Member
Even if this movie had some whack moments some posters on this board really do just hate women. It's just sad man. When even the Critical Drinker your god admits she's not a Mary Sue and she takes Ls you still gotta try hard to pick it apart.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
If Alien/Aliens, Terminator, or Kill Bill were released in 2022 they'd all be attacked with the same exact disingenuous arguments this movie is being hit with.
Star Wars as well:
Did you even read my post? Ripley being masculine and capable fits the role way better than this tiny native american girl.
Stay off the soy mister, you are literally shimmering in beta mentality. Live in Cali by any chance?
Airbus Jr
Banned
they have quite a similar body frame enough with the excuses you just hate women protagonist
if ripley is coming 2022 i have no doubt you l be lashing out on her either
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Sigourney Weaver is 5"11 dumbass. If you think they have similar body frame you're blind. Time to rewatch Alien mister. Sry if I didn't get your pronouns right, hard to tell these days.
Airbus Jr
Banned
Oh so now its about height? Cmon man wheres your consistancy
So your theory now its about taller people always beats shorter people?
Havent you heard of Mike Tyson he beat lots of people taller and bigger than him
debunked again
whats your next excuses gona be
you dont talk about pronouns to me im straight men dont even try to attack me with that it doesnt work here
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mansoor1980
Member
why did taabe suddenly give up when the predator activated the cloak?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Cause he knew he was fucked, kinda like Billy. Tried to do one last stand but the Predator caught him from the back.
He doesn't just give up, he tells Naru to run and he can sense the Predator behind him but before he can turn and try and attack, he gets impaled with the claws.
JayK47
Member
Seriously, the killing blow to the predator basically ruins the movie for me.
I am sure his full review will be worth watching. This early impression covers most of the issues I have with the film. And some comments to it cover the rest. I think the only issue I had with the original film was how long covering yourself in mud made you invisible to the predator. This movie is even worse. Her method to become invisible to the predator is so out of touch to reality.
I am sure his full review will be worth watching. This early impression covers most of the issues I have with the film. And some comments to it cover the rest. I think the only issue I had with the original film was how long covering yourself in mud made you invisible to the predator. This movie is even worse. Her method to become invisible to the predator is so out of touch to reality.
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Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Is it established that the predator vision hones in on heat? I thought the mud cover in P1 just provided camouflage so you look like part of the environment(in that forest setting at least).Herbal Spritzers, Recipes, and Sunburn Remedies to Cool You Off This Summer
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Airbus Jr
Banned
the predator technology in this movie are not as advanced, it is more limited, only have 1 mode, dont have heartbeat sensor etc
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Ulysses 31
Gold Member
As species with hunting as a big part of their culture who also have space faring tech that seems a bit odd though.
Airbus Jr
Banned
movies sets in like....what ? 1500s?
Just like every civilization even predator tech evolve too like humans
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
I thought it was okay and I don't really think she was a Mary Sue like some had mentioned.
For the most part others did the most damage to the Predator and weakened him for her to capitalise on it at the end
Overall this felt a bit like Prometheus to me.
Take that as you will.
For the most part others did the most damage to the Predator and weakened him for her to capitalise on it at the end
Her bother was kicking the Predators ass until he cloaked himself
Take that as you will.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Developing the ability to travel to other planets/solar systems seems way more advanced to me than developing heartbeat sensors. Maybe that predator was just being a good sport if we're being good faith towards the movie.
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mansoor1980
Member
just felt weird really , dude was dodging alien projectiles and fought well , then suddenly looks depressed and froze
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ShadowNate
Member
It was a good fun movie. Did not offer much to the lore of Predator, but considering what the previous sequels did when trying to introduce something new, I think I'm ok with it.
The photography was good, the editing especially duing the last fight scene was a bad -- I was kind of lost in a couple of shots about who was who and why something worked to wound the predator.
Anyway, still a fun watch, some really nice moments, and
I don't expect I'll remember it long, but for a summer movie you could do a lot worse.
The photography was good, the editing especially duing the last fight scene was a bad -- I was kind of lost in a couple of shots about who was who and why something worked to wound the predator.
Anyway, still a fun watch, some really nice moments, and
the dog survived
I don't expect I'll remember it long, but for a summer movie you could do a lot worse.
SuperBabyMethod
Member
Saw it last night and it’s a good solid action flick. It is beautifully shot and well acted.
Whatever controversy surrounding the film because of wokeness (my guess overall is because it’s starting a woman) is purely sensationalized on the media for clicks and ad revenue; it is just as idiotic as the “controversy” surrounding Lightyear and the innocuous kissing scene. Like the liberal left, opposers of woke ideology bend words to the point where it loses all meaning. Nowadays anything that even remotely stars a minority or - gasp - a woman, is labeled woke.
Whatever controversy surrounding the film because of wokeness (my guess overall is because it’s starting a woman) is purely sensationalized on the media for clicks and ad revenue; it is just as idiotic as the “controversy” surrounding Lightyear and the innocuous kissing scene. Like the liberal left, opposers of woke ideology bend words to the point where it loses all meaning. Nowadays anything that even remotely stars a minority or - gasp - a woman, is labeled woke.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
How dare you. I love women. They make the best sandwiches!
I think you are taking this a bit too personal, time to feel some grass under your feet.
SJRB
Gold Member
The climax was a little goofy, for sure. All placement was absolutely perfect and everything happened exactly according to plan.
Also seemed like the predator had an int debuff in that fight.
Did Joan actually swing a sword at someone? It's debatable I think.
And IIRC Boudica fought in the nude, I'll allow it
I also don't think there is any evidence she stood in the shield wall.
Point being is that those women are so singular, so unique, so far outside the norm, that to criticize someone for preferring men to do the battle is insane as in 99.99999999% of cases of battle in all of human history it is men fighting men.
It would be like wanting to see 1/3rd of all childbirth in film be from men 'cause representation!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
This was a "feral" predator, and the creators have told us that different parts of Predator worlds have different kinds of Predators, like humans.
So it's a safe assumption that the technology will also not be 1 : 1 in all of them. Besides, this movie is set 300~ years ago, tech probably evolved in Predator world like human world too.
And there's always the never-officially-confirmed-but-often-talked-about theory that the Predators themselves inherited the technology from a smarter alien race that they brute forced because of their strength.
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Ulysses 31
Gold Member
Still seems more like a case of being a good sport than not having the tech at all. A space faring species with hunting in their blood would've developed tech to track their prey before developing space travel.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Oh, I’m not suggesting women often are combat warriors, but they have existed, and it’s perfectly acceptable to portray that kind of character in a sci-fi action movie about a big silly alien with dreadlocks. Especially when the film goes at length to greatly weaken the predator prior to its fight with Naru.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I guess they probably tweak and add more to their tech after each hunt and whatever lessons they learn from it.
RAÏSanÏa
Member
That scene where the gun doesn't fire and she yells to draw its attention and he spears it was a great release all around.
The fights seemed a bit inspired by Brotherhood of the Wolf with lighting/camera/motion, a little grander with new tech. A little more development it could go far.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I mean we have nuclear ballistic missiles, computers in our pockets and people are out there right now spraying themselves with deer piss and notching an arrow to their bow.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
In war I'd expect those to be used but so far predators engage more in low key hunts in secluded areas.
bender
What time is it?
Adding Spoilers.
I don't think the establishment or her ramp are done all that great in the movie, but what they were trying to convey is that she is a would-be, trained hunter that often hesitates (she has a hard time catching rabbits, loosing her bow for the red tail, attacking the lion. What cures her of that hesitation is the same in the confrontation with the bear, her tribes' scouting party, the French fur traders, and the predator. It's her wanting to protect what she loves (in order: her dog, her brother, her dog again, and her brother and tribe. In particular, I think the used the tussle against the scouting party to establish her brawling chops and the paid it off the French fur traders. That ramp certainly didn't work for me and it could have used better establishment at the beginning of the movie (maybe a flashback sequence with her fighting with her brother).
Arnold might have been an alpha predator in the first movie but he didn't beat the Predator with his strength or with technology, he used what he learned (mud to mask his heat signature) and used guerilla tactics to defeat a stronger and more technologically advanced opponent. Naru defeated the Predator in a similar fashion. Both Arnold and Naru used the Predator's reliance on technology against them, though Naru's was far more implausible and blunt usage of that theme.
If anything, the portrayal of the Predator was the most egregious thing about this movie. The amount of punishment it took far exceeds what we saw in Predator. It's almost like the film runners got Arnold films confused and made him more of a terminator than Predator. I don't think the original Predator would have been dumb enough to brawl with a bear or find himself down fire range against dozens of fur traders. The final sequence is silly in this regard too, but probably not the most silly thing about that scene thanks to getting him to stand exactly where he needed to stand (in a sing hole no less) for the mask payoff.
Arnold might have been an alpha predator in the first movie but he didn't beat the Predator with his strength or with technology, he used what he learned (mud to mask his heat signature) and used guerilla tactics to defeat a stronger and more technologically advanced opponent. Naru defeated the Predator in a similar fashion. Both Arnold and Naru used the Predator's reliance on technology against them, though Naru's was far more implausible and blunt usage of that theme.
If anything, the portrayal of the Predator was the most egregious thing about this movie. The amount of punishment it took far exceeds what we saw in Predator. It's almost like the film runners got Arnold films confused and made him more of a terminator than Predator. I don't think the original Predator would have been dumb enough to brawl with a bear or find himself down fire range against dozens of fur traders. The final sequence is silly in this regard too, but probably not the most silly thing about that scene thanks to getting him to stand exactly where he needed to stand (in a sing hole no less) for the mask payoff.
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bender
What time is it?
sCHOCOLATE
Member
Agree. I thought the Predator's death was poorly written.
Naru placing the skull mask in an approximate position to target the middle of the bog... Okay.
Naru counting on the Predator to stop moving precisely where she needed it to... Zero probability.
The Predator enters the bog, submerges and then resurfaces, with eyes on Naru (who has suddenly become a stationary target in contrast to all of the earlier fighting). This somehow doesn't trigger a flight (instead of fight) decision from the Predator... Laughable.
The Predator with its enhanced hearing capabilities, hears the skull reticle activation tone and the tracking beeps, watches the guided bolts miss the intended target, circle the bog, then sees the reticule pointed at him and takes no defense posture... F~ Right Off With That!
Naru counting on the Predator to stop moving precisely where she needed it to... Zero probability.
The Predator enters the bog, submerges and then resurfaces, with eyes on Naru (who has suddenly become a stationary target in contrast to all of the earlier fighting). This somehow doesn't trigger a flight (instead of fight) decision from the Predator... Laughable.
The Predator with its enhanced hearing capabilities, hears the skull reticle activation tone and the tracking beeps, watches the guided bolts miss the intended target, circle the bog, then sees the reticule pointed at him and takes no defense posture... F~ Right Off With That!
Overall the movie was great and the finale paid hommage (a little too closely perhaps) to the original Predator, but Prey's ending for its Predator was disappointing.
PaddyOCanager
Member
I think they were trying to make it seem vulnerable for the final fight but the execution was clumsy. A lot of stuff in the film just falls a bit short. I really hope they take what works in this film and elevate it for the next entry.
I would like to see the next film take place in feudal Japan or if they wanted to do an urban environment as a nod to Pred 2, maybe old London?
bender
What time is it?
Clumsy is an apt way to describe a lot about the film but the Predator often put himself in dumb situations that not even then drunkest of redneck hunters would find themselves in.
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
It's a concrete jungle where it can easily retreat and hide.
But yeah, Predator 2 seems like an exception of its usual hunting grounds. (Only watched 1,2 and Predators though and some AVP ones that I don't remember at all)
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Oh god.
Now I’m desperate to see a Predator movie set in a gothic as hell Victorian London, fighting people dressed like this.
The night to hunt for foul beasts…
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bender
What time is it?
It's a concrete jungle where it can easily retreat and hide.
But yeah, Predator 2 seems like an exception of its usual hunting grounds. (Only watched 1,2 and Predators though and some AVP ones that I don't remember at all)
Touché. That opening shot is brilliant and I love how it pulls the rug out from under you in seconds.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
Jack the Ripper was really a Predator.
PaddyOCanager
Member
It's quicksand/sinkhole.....of course the Predator couldn't move. What they SHOULD have done was have it fall into the sinkhole and she shoots it through its eye or something while it's stuck.
My thoughts exactly lol.Oh god.
Now I’m desperate to see a Predator movie set in a gothic as hell Victorian London, fighting people dressed like this.
bender
What time is it?
Oh god.
Now I’m desperate to see a Predator movie set in a gothic as hell Victorian London, fighting people dressed like this.
Somehow tie it into Jack The Ripper lore.