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PREY reviews are in, critics love it

bender

What time is it?
Jack the Ripper was really a Predator.
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FunkMiller

Gold Member
Clumsy is an apt way to describe a lot about the film but the Predator often put himself in dumb situations that not even then drunkest of redneck hunters would find themselves in.

Limits of the setting. You kinda have to make the Predator dumber, otherwise the entire cast is a smear against a tree in five seconds flat 🤣
 

bender

What time is it?
Limits of the setting. You kinda have to make the Predator dumber, otherwise the entire cast is a smear against a tree in five seconds flat 🤣

Hard disagree. Predator thought it was a guest Tekken character taking on Kuma. And it doesn't explain the French fur trader sequence. He's there to hunt, to find the most worthy opponents. That wasn't hunting. That was action movie porn. We got that in the original movie but from the opening and from Arnold's team. It went from a typical 80s action movie to a horror movie.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Hard disagree. Predator thought it was a guest Tekken character taking on Kuma. And it doesn't explain the French fur trader sequence. He's there to hunt, to find the most worthy opponents. That wasn't hunting. That was action movie porn. We got that in the original movie but from the opening and from Arnold's team. It went from a typical 80s action movie to a horror movie.

There’s definite fuckery going on with the Predator’s motives and methods, but they‘ve been doing that for years now, so what are you gonna do?

Personally, I actually think as far as a franchise goes the entire concept was a one and done. The original was perfect, and nothing else needed to be said. Hollywood gonna Hollywood though.
 
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sCHOCOLATE

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It's quicksand/sinkhole.....of course the Predator couldn't move. What they SHOULD have done was have it fall into the sinkhole and she shoots it through its eye or something while it's stuck.

My thoughts exactly lol.
The Predator was able to overhead press a brown bear (a few hundred kilos in weight).

The (one-armed) Predator walked into the sinkhole, submerged, surfaced to waist level, and then pulled its left arm out of the muck to then draw the bolt gun.
It definitely didn't appear to be treading water (to be certain, I just re-watched the ending fight).

We know how tall the Predator is in relation to humans after seeing them fight hand-to-hand.

Are you saying the Predator shouldn't have been able to move?

Because I reckon anything of that height and strength would have no problem simply walking (or leaping) out if it is able to stand in a "sinkhole".
 

bender

What time is it?
There’s definite fuckery going on with the Predator’s motives and methods, but they‘ve been doing that for years now, so what are you gonna do?

Personally, I actually think as far as a franchise goes the entire concept was a one and done. The original was perfect, and nothing else needed to be said. Hollywood gonna Hollywood though.

Predator is one of my favorite movies of all time and I mostly agree. I do think you could have brilliant sequels and Prey has just about the perfect backdrop, it just fumbles the ball early and often. While the Predator is large and imposing, it often relies on technology and guile. I guess you could argue that we don't know how Billy died and maybe that was more Mano a Mano, but I never envisioned the Predator as careless or a hunter that mindlessly slaughtered (ironic considering the buffalo scene in this movie). Prey feels like it misses the mark of what made Predator such an iconic movie monster. Maybe that's to play up to the attention span of modern audiences, but again the original gave us schlocky action for the first 30 minutes or so. Prey could have easily copied that format and made the Predator portion of the film mirror the original, with that scouting party getting picked off one by one. That's probably too subtle though.
 
Are you saying the Predator shouldn't have been able to move?

Because I reckon anything of that height and strength would have no problem simply walking (or leaping) out if it is able to stand in a "sinkhole".
Full grown elephants get stuck in mud and die all the time......they are bigger and stronger than a Predator. They didn't do a good job of executing it in this movie. For one, when she got stuck they should've shown how to actually get out of quicksand/sinkholes - you can't brute force/pull yourself out typically. It would've been a good showcase of her using brains not brawn, and would've been a great finisher to the Predator who probably would've tried to brute force his way out.
 

bender

What time is it?
Full grown elephants get stuck in mud and die all the time......they are bigger and stronger than a Predator. They didn't do a good job of executing it in this movie. For one, when she got stuck they should've shown how to actually get out of quicksand/sinkholes - you can't brute force/pull yourself out typically. It would've been a good showcase of her using brains not brawn, and would've been a great finisher to the Predator who probably would've tried to brute force his way out.

 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
This is the camp fight scene for context



In that fight scene, she's using her weight and momentum to best the traders like in Jujutsu (they aren't skilled fighters), using their weapons (knives and axes) against them... That fight was certainly plausible.

A trained martial artist can best an unskilled attacker. She barely won her fight against the hunting party guy... They both were bloodied... And his intention wasn't to beat her but get her to come home. He wasn't trying to hurt her or anything. He was defending himself. The cheap knockout punch was a last resort. Again, trying to get her home.

This was WAY better than that new Princess movie on Hulu.
 

Little Mac

Member
Watching it now. I'm at the part where she is returning to the village after gathering some orange medicinal herbs and a Native American tells her that a lion took Puhi ... a lion ... I came here to start ranting how fake this movie is after hearing that and then, while typing this post, remembered that Mountain Lions are a thing in North America too so I'm gonna pivot hard and say that that doggo in this movie is awesome and nothing better happen to it ...

Watch It Season 2 GIF by Paramount+
 

TintoConCasera

I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Just watched this. It's entertaining, but not awesome in any way.

The girl is cute, the dog is cool and there were some dumb things, like the last scene with the foreing guy or how the dog get's it's tail and not it's paw stuck in a trap at the beggining. How did that happen?

At least it was fun to watch. It's not too long and the scenery is real pretty. Would recommend for a lazy Sunday afternoon.
 
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Toons

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"The Bride is a woke sjw Mary sue for female empowerment!! She off tons of trained male ninja in her quest to get revenge on the typical rich white male who wronged her! Kill Bill is obvious libtard propaganda, i was waiting for her to come out as LGBT and dye her hair blue at the end!"

/s
 
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mortal

Member
Oh god.

Now I’m desperate to see a Predator movie set in a gothic as hell Victorian London, fighting people dressed like this.

dark souls kai GIF


The night to hunt for foul beasts…
or if they wanted to do an urban environment as a nod to Pred 2, maybe old London?
Yea a setting like that would be pretty sick.

Rainy/foggy old Lodon at night would make for some great moody atmosphere for stalking and hunting.
 

bender

What time is it?
Watching it now. I'm at the part where she is returning to the village after gathering some orange medicinal herbs and a Native American tells her that a lion took Puhi ... a lion ... I came here to start ranting how fake this movie is after hearing that and then, while typing this post, remembered that Mountain Lions are a thing in North America too so I'm gonna pivot hard and say that that doggo in this movie is awesome and nothing better happen to it ...

Watch It Season 2 GIF by Paramount+

That dog in the movie certainly is delicious.
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
"The Bride is a woke sjw Mary sue for female empowerment!! She off tons of trained male ninja in her quest to get revenge on the typical rich white male who wronged her! Kill Bill is obvious libtard propaganda, i was waiting for her to come out as LGBT and dye her hair blue at the end!"

/s

“It’s fucking stupid that Ripley can use that Pulse Rifle and flamethrower so easily. And you’re really telling me she could fucking survive going into that hive, when all the marines got killed easily by the aliens earlier in the film? And all that shit about Weyland Yutani and the corporate stuff is just typical anti-capitalist propaganda. And all the white dudes die easily, or are made out to be weak or assholes, and not as strong or capable as ripley, who has to save them. Fucking woke bullshit.”

also /s
 

FunkMiller

Gold Member
Oooh please let the Twitter crowd go and watch his scenes in the original Predator just so they get triggered and try to cancel him for what he calls the other guys in the helicopter.

Have Disney cut that line on streaming yet? I haven’t checked 😂
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
“It’s fucking stupid that Ripley can use that Pulse Rifle and flamethrower so easily. And you’re really telling me she could fucking survive going into that hive, when all the marines got killed easily by the aliens earlier in the film? And all that shit about Weyland Yutani and the corporate stuff is just typical anti-capitalist propaganda. And all the white dudes die easily, or are made out to be weak or assholes, and not as strong or capable as ripley, who has to save them. Fucking woke bullshit.”

also /s
Aliens is super anti-woke. The hispanic woman is directly responsible for a nuclear explosion, and then indirectly causes the spread of 'aliens' across the cosmos.
 

sol_bad

Member
Agree. I thought the Predator's death was poorly written.

Naru placing the skull mask in an approximate position to target the middle of the bog... Okay.
Naru counting on the Predator to stop moving precisely where she needed it to... Zero probability.
The Predator enters the bog, submerges and then resurfaces, with eyes on Naru (who has suddenly become a stationary target in contrast to all of the earlier fighting). This somehow doesn't trigger a flight (instead of fight) decision from the Predator... Laughable.
The Predator with its enhanced hearing capabilities, hears the skull reticle activation tone and the tracking beeps, watches the guided bolts miss the intended target, circle the bog, then sees the reticule pointed at him and takes no defense posture... F~ Right Off With That!

Overall the movie was great and the finale paid hommage (a little too closely perhaps) to the original Predator, but Prey's ending for its Predator was disappointing.

But no one complains about this exact placing.



3:13 in the clip of the exact moment doesn't load.
 
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Macattk15

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Predator is one of my favorite movies of all time and I mostly agree. I do think you could have brilliant sequels and Prey has just about the perfect backdrop, it just fumbles the ball early and often. While the Predator is large and imposing, it often relies on technology and guile. I guess you could argue that we don't know how Billy died and maybe that was more Mano a Mano, but I never envisioned the Predator as careless or a hunter that mindlessly slaughtered (ironic considering the buffalo scene in this movie). Prey feels like it misses the mark of what made Predator such an iconic movie monster. Maybe that's to play up to the attention span of modern audiences, but again the original gave us schlocky action for the first 30 minutes or so. Prey could have easily copied that format and made the Predator portion of the film mirror the original, with that scouting party getting picked off one by one. That's probably too subtle though.

The French Trappers slaughtered and skinned all the buffalo?

edit : Nvm I see what you're saying.
 
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Lunarorbit

Member
I really liked it. That whole set up with the last fight was cool.


Glad the predators weapons were also period appropriate. I saw a headline about it before I watched prey but I was trying to keep spoiler free. The Kratos shield was a nice addition!
 
It was pretty average. It certainly has identity politics running through its veins but you can tell they tried to hold back a bit on the sillyness.

Acting was bad throughout and unfortunately the main actor really lacks charisma. The french hunters weren't intimidating at all and came off more as comical really with all their overacting.

Predator looked... Ok I guess. Face was a bit derpy and WTF is up with his fingers lol. Special effects were meh. They still aren't close to creating convincing CG animals unfortunately.

For a movie that's dedicated to the Comanche they really should have let their characters speak Comanche!
 

Alex11

Member
Okay, a better movie than what I was expecting, some awesome scenes in there, only wish it would have been even more visceral. But the dumbing down of the Predator for the plot is no excuse, for crying out loud, it still arrived on a spaceship.

But what is up with all the comparisons to Aliens and Ripley and all that? You can`t compare Prey`s heroine with Ripley, first it`s unfair, as Ripley had a previous experience beforehand, where mind you, defeated the Xeno IMO with a bit of chance. Second, the Xeno, though my favourite creature/enemy of all time, doesn`t compare to the Predator intelligence wise, let alone in the gadgets and tech stuff, maybe physically.
And it`s not like Ripley woke up one day and decided it was a good day for hunting Xeno`s, she had IMO a better motivator for doing that, one could argue the most powerful one.
 

sol_bad

Member
Okay, a better movie than what I was expecting, some awesome scenes in there, only wish it would have been even more visceral. But the dumbing down of the Predator for the plot is no excuse, for crying out loud, it still arrived on a spaceship.

But what is up with all the comparisons to Aliens and Ripley and all that? You can`t compare Prey`s heroine with Ripley, first it`s unfair, as Ripley had a previous experience beforehand, where mind you, defeated the Xeno IMO with a bit of chance. Second, the Xeno, though my favourite creature/enemy of all time, doesn`t compare to the Predator intelligence wise, let alone in the gadgets and tech stuff, maybe physically.
And it`s not like Ripley woke up one day and decided it was a good day for hunting Xeno`s, she had IMO a better motivator for doing that, one could argue the most powerful one.

Naru wanted to protect her tribe, that's a pretty good motivator.
 

Little Mac

Member
I give it a 7.5. Fun and I liked all the little tie ins from the previous movies (gun from Predator 2 ... totally forgot about it). Also the dog didn't die thankfully. But the Predator's death was really lame. It would have been better, and more believable, if the predator bolts hit it in the leg, knocking him down and then she just hatcheted it to death viscerally. Anyways, probably 3rd best Predator film but doesn't come anywhere close to the original.
 
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BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Okay, a better movie than what I was expecting, some awesome scenes in there, only wish it would have been even more visceral. But the dumbing down of the Predator for the plot is no excuse, for crying out loud, it still arrived on a spaceship.

But what is up with all the comparisons to Aliens and Ripley and all that? You can`t compare Prey`s heroine with Ripley, first it`s unfair, as Ripley had a previous experience beforehand, where mind you, defeated the Xeno IMO with a bit of chance. Second, the Xeno, though my favourite creature/enemy of all time, doesn`t compare to the Predator intelligence wise, let alone in the gadgets and tech stuff, maybe physically.
And it`s not like Ripley woke up one day and decided it was a good day for hunting Xeno`s, she had IMO a better motivator for doing that, one could argue the most powerful one.

There's obviously differences between the situations the two characters found themselves in, but both Ripley and Naru continuously did what was right and best for their team / people regardless of whatever undeserved pushback they received. They both defeated their enemies through observation, adaptation, and ambush given the realities of their physicality (they weren't big strong warriors). Neither were lazily written, rather shown to have flaws and weaknesses they had to quickly work through. And finally, of course, both did all of these things as heroines rather than as a male character that would typically inhabit such a role.

If Dan T didn't write Naru with Ripley in mind as an inspiration in some way I would be very surprised.
 
2nd watch this time with family and it’s a great predator film. If I didn’t have to judge it against P1 and P2 it’d be even better.

Third best and I really hope the next one (or alien film for that matter) is as good.
 
I give it a 7.5. Fun and I liked all the little tie ins from the previous movies (gun from Predator 2 ... totally forgot about it). Also the dog didn't die thankfully. But the Predator's death was really lame. It would have been better, and more believable, if the predator bolts hit it in the leg, knocking him down and then she just hatcheted it to death viscerally. Anyways, probably 3rd best Predator film but doesn't come anywhere close to the original.
I said from the beginning that best boy better not die. I knew her brother was done, but not dog.
 
There's obviously differences between the situations the two characters found themselves in, but both Ripley and Naru continuously did what was right and best for their team / people regardless of whatever undeserved pushback they received. They both defeated their enemies through observation, adaptation, and ambush given the realities of their physicality (they weren't big strong warriors). Neither were lazily written, rather shown to have flaws and weaknesses they had to quickly work through. And finally, of course, both did all of these things as heroines rather than as a male character that would typically inhabit such a role.

If Dan T didn't write Naru with Ripley in mind as an inspiration in some way I would be very surprised.
Agreed on pretty much all that
Predator has the reverse Star Trek movie rule. With the TOS movies, the even number ones (Khan, Voyage, Country) were the good ones and the odd-number ones were bad.

Predator: Good
Predator 2: OK
Predators: Good
The Predator: Worse than getting Monkeypox and Ebola at the same time.
Prey: Good
I can get on board with this. Predators is hella underrated. I probably overrate P2.

A neutral party would probably go P1>Prey>Predators>P2

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Oh god.

Now I’m desperate to see a Predator movie set in a gothic as hell Victorian London, fighting people dressed like this.

dark souls kai GIF


The night to hunt for foul beasts…
I need this
 
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sol_bad

Member
I watched parts of The Predator movie and I've realised it is quite bad. When I saw it in theatres in the Philippines the screen was horribly calibrated and too dark, green tree leaves at night didn't even look dark, seeing it on Disney+ now and damn the Predator dogs look absolutely pathetic. Really bad CGI.

And I'll never understand the reasoning behind Olivia Munn getting nude to try and exit the facility she is in, makes zero sense. The most offending thing about that scene was the fact we didn't actually see her nude though. CRIMINAL I TELL YOU!
 

mansoor1980

Member
I watched parts of The Predator movie and I've realised it is quite bad. When I saw it in theatres in the Philippines the screen was horribly calibrated and too dark, green tree leaves at night didn't even look dark, seeing it on Disney+ now and damn the Predator dogs look absolutely pathetic. Really bad CGI.

And I'll never understand the reasoning behind Olivia Munn getting nude to try and exit the facility she is in, makes zero sense. The most offending thing about that scene was the fact we didn't actually see her nude though. CRIMINAL I TELL YOU!
what i didnt get is how olivia munn went from nerdy scientist to green beret
 
The problem that I have with this movie is just the insane plot armor Neru has. I get that she's written to go from zero to hero at the end, but some of the happenings to get to the end is just too much for me.
 

sol_bad

Member
The problem that I have with this movie is just the insane plot armor Neru has. I get that she's written to go from zero to hero at the end, but some of the happenings to get to the end is just too much for me.

This has already been covered, Dutch had plot armour in the original film as well.

A plasma weapon that puts a hole in other characters barely phases Dutch as one example.
And I also posted a video above where the predator just so happens to conveniently stop right under a log that Dutch set up earlier.
 
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This has already been covered, Dutch had plot armour in the original film as well.

A plasma weapon that puts a hole in other characters barely phases Dutch as one example.
And I also posted a video above where the predator just so happens to conveniently stop right under a log that Dutch set up earlier.
Dutch escaped from a Bear like nothing? Dutch fell into a bear trap and didn't break his leg? Dutch teamed up with a Dog to knock down a predator? Dutch ate some herbs that INSTANTLY lowered him body temp? Dutch escaped quicksand ? I mean... it's just too much this time.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Dutch escaped from a Bear like nothing? Dutch fell into a bear trap and didn't break his leg? Dutch teamed up with a Dog to knock down a predator? Dutch ate some herbs that INSTANTLY lowered him body temp? Dutch escaped quicksand ? I mean... it's just too much this time.

He survived a blast from an energy weapon that would have killed anyone else, to eventually tumble down a hill and fall a hundred feet into a raging river (all without even pulling a muscle), to conveniently wash up on muddy shores where he is covered in mud and gets to observe a glaring weakness of the predator.

We could do these kinds of plot armor tit for tats all night long. And not just for this movie alone. I think it's better to just acknowledge that protagonists typically always enjoy plot armor in these simple action films and call it a day.
 

sol_bad

Member
Dutch escaped from a Bear like nothing? Dutch fell into a bear trap and didn't break his leg? Dutch teamed up with a Dog to knock down a predator? Dutch ate some herbs that INSTANTLY lowered him body temp? Dutch escaped quicksand ? I mean... it's just too much this time.

The entire beginning scene of Predator is plot armour, Dutch plus team kill 50 bad guys or so without a scratch.
Also what BadBurger BadBurger says above.
 
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