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Ash Sparrow
Banned
Saw it when it released
Pros: I actually loved how they conveyed the Predators strength. IE Bear and Quicksand.
Native casting, especially Midthunder
Appreciating the Predators look even more second viewing
Film looks and sounds great
Awesome fight scenes.
Predator in character imo and consistent
Fun film
Cons
lines from the original kinda seemed silly.
CGI not quite there on animals
Didnt add as much to the mythology, kinda wanted to learn something new about the Predator
If they do a sequel they need to strengthen the side characters
Pros: I actually loved how they conveyed the Predators strength. IE Bear and Quicksand.
Native casting, especially Midthunder
Appreciating the Predators look even more second viewing
Film looks and sounds great
Awesome fight scenes.
Predator in character imo and consistent
Fun film
Cons
lines from the original kinda seemed silly.
CGI not quite there on animals
Didnt add as much to the mythology, kinda wanted to learn something new about the Predator
If they do a sequel they need to strengthen the side characters
Airbus Jr
Banned
Grizzly bear couldve kill pred if he didnt stopped ( also naru's brothers if pred didnt cloaked, this feral pred was cheap and dishonorable when he did that)
Which convinced me this pred is a bad blood
True predator didnt use cloak when theyre chalenged by what they consider as worthy opponents ( Ex Dutch vs Jungle Hunter...not even Scar uses cloak when hes fighting Queen Alien even when he knows the odds are against him)
Which convinced me this pred is a bad blood
True predator didnt use cloak when theyre chalenged by what they consider as worthy opponents ( Ex Dutch vs Jungle Hunter...not even Scar uses cloak when hes fighting Queen Alien even when he knows the odds are against him)
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mansoor1980
Member
whats a bad blood?
Airbus Jr
Banned
mansoor1980
Member
maybe it had no experience as it is first time on earth facing new creatures
it is also being referred to as the FERAL predator
sol_bad
Member
But she did catch the rabbits, 5 or 6 of them....
jufonuk
not tag worthy
FunkMiller
Gold Member
But then people would have to be honest about the actual reason they don’t like the protagonist in this film.
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Toytown Assassin
Member
I enjoyed the film for the most part but the lead actress was miscast. She is just too puny. When she is doing the axe training she doesn't look strong enough to even get the axe to the tree and the only bow she could ever fully extend is one of those kids ones with the sucker arrows. So the fight sequences just look fucking stupid. Other than that I'd rate the film a 7.
3 or 4 beer before starting helps!
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
5/10 Movie. Don't know what some of you are smoking with all that praise.
There was no rhythm to any of this. Every major event / turn of events was based on luck or coincident. Much more so than in the original.
The Predator in this feels like a "challanged" version of a predator. Meh. Should have watched the original again...
There was no rhythm to any of this. Every major event / turn of events was based on luck or coincident. Much more so than in the original.
The Predator in this feels like a "challanged" version of a predator. Meh. Should have watched the original again...
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Does this happen at any point during the movie?
Ulysses 31
Gold Member
LaughingStock
Member
In this day and age, when something doesn't turn out to be a complete (woke) dumpster fire, it's praised to the high heavens.
INC
Gold Member
The energy blast hit his gun first, so he didnt take the full blast of the plasma cannon. Hence why he survived it.
Konnor
Member
Truth, if this movie released in early 00's I would have called it bland and mediocre, now I consider it a pretty good flick although I will have forgotten it by next week. The state of Hollywood is pathetic.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
The early 00s was when AvP was released. By comparison, this would have been regarded as a masterpiece.
Konnor
Member
AvP was considered complete trash back then, I'm obviously talking about movies in general not just the Predator franchise
VN1X
Banned
I thought that was actually rather weak from a direction standpoint.
There is keeping stuff in-camera and just moving away from all of the impacts ever so slightly. I dunno but I just thought that looked more like a rehearsal (dance) than anything. Not bad but there are tons of examples out there which do it better (Kill Bill for instance!).
PaddyOCanager
Member
Yeah well......baby steps right?
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Thought the best thing about it was the cinematography. It was just beautifully shot. Landscapes, mountains, hills. Even parts where it's dark and gritty, it captures that super well. I thought it was decent. Not as good as the critics are saying, but ok. Biggest issue is Naru was too overpowered. She went from struggling to best a mountain cat, getting lucky a bear didn't kill her, to completely clowning a Predator. She owned the Predator in the end, it was barely a challenge. Kinda let a lot of the steam out of it for me. I didn't expect her to die, but I was hoping the showdown would feel more organic and more in-line with how things went up to that point.
Quite true, but I also think it shouldn't be an insult worthy offense to say "I don't find small women besting giant space aliens in hand to hand combat believable, I'd rather they had cast John Cena in the role". The Predator series, has never had a Pred fight a woman (I guess if you count the AvP films there was some fighting leading to mutual respect). So if you were a fan of the prior films then it's understandable if the Predator "genre" is tough men at the peak of their game getting into battle with this alien trophy hunter thing. Not women, or kids (and I can find plenty of examples of child soldiers as well), or talking squirrels, or dolphins in anthropomorphic robot suits, or any of a million other protagonists in a sci-fi film.
No need to argue with folks that just want an Arnie stand-in to go mano y mano with a pred and find it less interesting or exciting if it's a petite woman.
PaddyOCanager
Member
Yeah the "showdown" missed the mark a bit. They had a perfect set up established early in the film and they kinda used it but I think they felt the organic route would've been too anti-climatic or similar to Arnold's fight.
John Bilbo
Member
The main character's motivation was established in the beginning of the film, but besides that she didn't develope much during the run time.
To be fair I don't think Arnold developed much in the original either, but at least Arnold was funny.
They could have made the main character in this film have a sense of humour too. I think the beaver story was a perfect moment to make a Arnold type one liner, but they missed the shot.
Or if not funny, then some other character traits. I mean she was clearly resourceful with combining the axe and the rope. They could have made that resourcefulness a clear through line of her character.
As she was I think she was quite as much unlikeable as most of the men in the story with the exception of the brother. He was pretty neutral and had also some likeable traits. The dog was the most likeable boy of course.
To be fair I don't think Arnold developed much in the original either, but at least Arnold was funny.
They could have made the main character in this film have a sense of humour too. I think the beaver story was a perfect moment to make a Arnold type one liner, but they missed the shot.
Or if not funny, then some other character traits. I mean she was clearly resourceful with combining the axe and the rope. They could have made that resourcefulness a clear through line of her character.
As she was I think she was quite as much unlikeable as most of the men in the story with the exception of the brother. He was pretty neutral and had also some likeable traits. The dog was the most likeable boy of course.
RAÏSanÏa
Member
That was portrayed in different ways. The ending captured that. The bait for the Predator with the gun and skinner was resourceful from a good understanding developed from observation of how it hunts. Not terribly complex, but is there. Along with healing her dog, healing that dude, collecting items, wildcrafting.
John Bilbo
Member
That's fair, you are correct.
sCHOCOLATE
Member
Consider how this scene from Predator (1987) was written.
Dutch devised his original plan. He used a narrow path leading to a large tree to funnel the Predator towards him (tactically, one way in, one way out)
The camouflaged spike trap relied on the suspended tree trunk as a counter-weight.
Dutch beckons to the Predator.
The Predator observes Dutch, takes a step forward, notices the spikes, looks at him again, and then makes an intuitive counter-move, bypassing the intended trap.
Dutch improvises, inverts the trap sequence, and releases the suspended tree trunk on the Predator's head.
The Predator only knows the target is stationary and it has intuitively manuevered around something that was considered suspicious.
The Predator had no knowledge of the suspended tree trunk. Prior to impact, among the other jungle noises, it might have heard the air whistling as the trunk fell.
Of course, had the Predator taken any other path around the original spike trap, the scene would be broken.
But that was the near finale for the Predator from the first movie. That was what we got.
In Prey (2022), people are going to criticize the finale because:
1. This callback(forward) to Predator (1987) is a little too on the nose given....
2. The bog area is not a funnel. When the Predator realized its mobility was compromised, it should have considered a counter-move (like the 1987 movie), not merely re-surfacing on the spot. In boxing, what is one of the fatal mistakes a boxer can make? Planting their feet and not moving. You become a sitting duck.
3. The targeting system for the Predator's weapon is laser precise. The bolts zero on the pinpoints as a tight grouping or individually at the Predator's discretion (while wearing the mask).
The bolts can be fired in a direction, off-angle from the target, but they will home in on the pinpoints.
Before the Predator arrived at the bog, even if Naru wore the mask to somehow activate the laser targeting to see where the bolts could be aimed, the movie is asking the viewer to swallow too many probablilities here.
Did she wear the mask, activate the laser targeting to approximate where the Predator would stop walking (and then resurface), and then determine, in the darkness, how to position the removed mask between the rocks to preserve the correct aim angle?
The Predator watched, and presumably, heard the incoming fatal head shot and all it did was face impending death with a "Huh?"
That is not an evolution of the writing that closed the curtain on the 1987 Predator.
The end of Prey's Predator could have been written much better.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Even the drinker didn't hate it. Maybe I'll give it a shot 
FunkMiller
Gold Member
I get what you’re saying, but for me, the movie did enough in terms of making the Predator weaker, dumber and injured enough for her fight with it to stay just about on the right side of conceivable. That’s why I kinda dug the movie.
Shit, I’d have been the first one complaining if it had been OG Pred that she beats single handedly in a Mary Sue kind of way.
But they didn’t do that, and I was pleasantly surprised.
However, I’d prefer an elite Predator up against a platoon of space marines for the next one, to be honest.
INC
Gold Member
And right here just shows yet again, how awesome the original design was, and how fucking dire the redesign is
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
He did. First we see him, cigar in mouth, full of himself, the last shot in the helicopter is another man. Humbled and terrified.
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
There's also that scene where he's with Anna and he's absolutely terrified. The gun is shaking as he's holding it.He did. First we see him, cigar in mouth, full of himself, the last shot in the helicopter is another man. Humbled and terrified.
sankt-Antonio
:^)--?-<
Yeah, he lost his cool quite often. He also starts to care about Anna, etc.
I also liked the dynamic of the last encounter a lot more. Dutch knows booth of them are invisible to each other, so he fakes attacks and forces the Predator to show its location etc.
In Prey its all kind of flat. We don't know if the Predator is even aware that there is an invisible person around, he just strolls into the trap... meh...
FunkMiller
Gold Member
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
We are still talking about the og film 35 years later. Will anyone remember this next week?
INC
Gold Member
We are still talking about the og film 35 years later. Will anyone remember this next week?
At least its inclusive, adding a predator with down syndrome
STARSBarry
Gold Member
OK so I just finished watching... this is... well its just adequate... its not bad but its not great, not good either just... sort of there.
One thing is it certainly felt cheap, the terrible CGI animals immediately set the cheap feeling.
The best thing I could say is that the preditor design was pretty cool, but it was the dumbest predator I have ever seen... the whole gimic with the targeting laser was just stupid and felt lazy as did the predator fight... it was too one sided in the finale hardly any threat at all bar the scene with the sheild and the rocks.
Overall it was a movie, nothing more nothing less, but good reviews? Meh...
One thing is it certainly felt cheap, the terrible CGI animals immediately set the cheap feeling.
The best thing I could say is that the preditor design was pretty cool, but it was the dumbest predator I have ever seen... the whole gimic with the targeting laser was just stupid and felt lazy as did the predator fight... it was too one sided in the finale hardly any threat at all bar the scene with the sheild and the rocks.
Overall it was a movie, nothing more nothing less, but good reviews? Meh...
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
AJUMP23
Member
FunkMiller
Gold Member
Oh, good grief no.
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PaddyOCanager
Member
Yesterday was the first time I've ever seen it. My literal thought throughout the movie was "this is insane". What a crazy fucking movie lol. Glover was fantastic though.
AJUMP23
Member
Paxton is too. He is great in every scene.
FunkMiller
Gold Member
The fact we never got a Predator 3 to properly see out a trilogy is a crime.