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Grildon Tundy
Gold Member
The original Predator was a good movie but not a formative experience for me, so I've enjoyed Predators, The Predator (2018), and Prey probably more than die-hards. This director seems able to provide fresh premises, so I'm down.
I think this is going to be a Western. Like Cowboys vs Aliens, but good!
I'm not quite understanding the hook of the Napoleon concept--is it that it elevates it from the typical guerilla warfare into small-scale battles with the Predators?
I think this is going to be a Western. Like Cowboys vs Aliens, but good!
I'm not quite understanding the hook of the Napoleon concept--is it that it elevates it from the typical guerilla warfare into small-scale battles with the Predators?
Darkmakaimura
Member
Is this the guy related to the Buffy sister girl?
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
I enjoyed Predators and Prey, but The Predator was just too dumb.
willothedog
Member
Predator v Predators where it is set in a men's prison and it systematically kills all the nonces.
Ammogeddon
Member
Based on the title it’s not a stretch to assume it’s set in the Wild West, possibly with Will Smith as the protagonist.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Gonna slap the shit out of that Predator. Then the Predators dreadlocks fall off revealing it is suffering from alopecia, and the last 3/4 of the movie is Will dealing with his own ingrained prejudices. Then the Predator steals his wife and nukes the planet from orbit.
More of a "tactical and strategic genius versus alien" angle, I think.
As for Badlands, could be anything, I guess. Western, more native tribes, even narcos or bike gangs.
All I really want from a Predator film is one showing up into a dangerous situation and battle ensues. Do some little tweaks to the preds gear and drip out a little more about their culture. Have the human story develop around the pred as a reaction to it. Seems really simple in concept, they should be banging one of these out every 2-3 years.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
We need an arthouse big budget Alien v Predator movie with no humans and no dialog other than unsubtitled Predator communication.
Predators drop off old teachers and young hunters on an Alien dominated world and let shit go down.
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Beer Baelly
Al Pachinko, Konami President
I want Turok v Predator
Hawking Radiation
Member
I came up with that idea like 25 years ago but as i got older i realized they would never do that and make a movie without humans and without dialog.
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Sonik
Member
I watched the Predator 15 years ago and remember that movie way better than Prey that I watched a few months ago. The movie was serviceable but extremely generic and forgettable
Solarstrike
Gold Member
Was thinking about one maybe set in ancient China. Yay or nay?
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ForAcademicPurposes
Gold Member
Intrigued.
AJUMP23
Gold Member
dragonyeuw
Member
Was thinking about one maybe set in ancient China. Yay or nay?
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I've been saying for years they need Predator in feudal Japan.
newtypepilot
Member
no, his wife will show up and tells him that she's been sleeping with him because she can't stand Will's low T levels. And that his son is not really his but the Predator's.
Just DO ITWas thinking about one maybe set in ancient China. Yay or nay?
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
Personally, I'd prefer a full blown sci-fi movie to another 'Predator in historic times' set up.
But then I'd just have the Predators hunt the fucking Navi from Avatar
I'd also like to have seen old Dutch back for another go around. That's the sequel we never got. The Predator needs to fuck up some really alpha males for the concept to work. You have to 'put him over' properly, and I don't think any film other than the original does that.
But then I'd just have the Predators hunt the fucking Navi from Avatar
I'd also like to have seen old Dutch back for another go around. That's the sequel we never got. The Predator needs to fuck up some really alpha males for the concept to work. You have to 'put him over' properly, and I don't think any film other than the original does that.
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March Climber
Member
It would have to be a video game or Japanese-made. Hollywood is simply too afraid to let go of that human element with human dialogue.
This is coming from someone who wanted the third Riddick movie to literally just be him surviving on a planet alone and only saying 10 words or less. However halfway through the movie they couldn’t help themselves…there landed a ship full of people who simply existed to annoy the audience and interrupt Riddick’s journey of survival…to re-enact Pitch Black but in a worse way.
I am truly worried about that future Metroid movie, especially if Illumination is chosen to be in charge of it.
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INC
Member
Said it before I'll say again
Iraq war, 90s, special forces unit sent in to rescue vip target
Follow the rough formula of predator amd fit the lore of hot climate, rival factions etc etc
Predators wasn't a bad attempt at a new spin.
But please for the love of God, sort the predator design out, they've never got the look of the face right since predator 2. Or even how it moves, Kevin Peter Halls movement sold the predator, and that's never been replicated since
Iraq war, 90s, special forces unit sent in to rescue vip target
Follow the rough formula of predator amd fit the lore of hot climate, rival factions etc etc
Predators wasn't a bad attempt at a new spin.
But please for the love of God, sort the predator design out, they've never got the look of the face right since predator 2. Or even how it moves, Kevin Peter Halls movement sold the predator, and that's never been replicated since
ManaByte
Gold Member
It's set in the near future apparently.
bitbydeath
Member
Needs an injection of testosterone.
INC
Member
Fantastic is a bit much, it's maybe 4th in the overall rankings of predator films, 3rd if I'm being generous
The predator barely hunted anything, most of the time it just stood there
It needs to go back to more horror/sci-fi then action, why the first one worked so well, its pacing.
Again this is just opinion of course
INC
Member
Again opinions
The feral predator looked like it had downs, the design was ok, until it took off its mask off.
And it hunted a dog....wow
And had a fist fight with a bear. Other than that it wasn't really using the environment, or hunting, just went went full ham. Just didn't feel like it was really stalking anyone to me, perhaps you could argue it was it's first hunt on earth, so was still working shit out.......fuck it, I'll go with that, and give it the benefit
Again the concept was solid, and considering the trash predator films we've had, at least this was OK. The scenery was beautifully shot, and I did appreciate having the native language as an option, shame it was dubbed tho.
A good day the best?!?!....yeh not even close, that's like saying alien 3 is the best on a good day.
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ResilientBanana
Member
All nerds tend to sway towards ancient China and Japan. Every time.Was thinking about one maybe set in ancient China. Yay or nay?
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xrnzaaas
Member
More strong wahmen, you say?
I rewatched Predator 2 last year and I still think that the urban jungle setting just doesn't fit. Predators was the only decent sequel imo.
March Climber
Member
I think that's what the director and his team keeps attempting to do with these latest movies, by them being titled Prey and Badlands, but the studio probably keeps forcing him to include a predator front and center because of marketing reasons.
I would prefer it if it were kept a surprise every time(much like when the predator first appears in that world it's in), but the suits usually don't have creative brains like that.
bitbydeath
Member
Aliens, Buffy and T2 strong, not the rubbish we have today.
bender
What time is it?
Like a lot of movies, I just don't think it needed a sequel. I get that's not how the world works with something gets popular, but I digress. Maybe you could do something with a Predator hunting on another planet but not something as power fantasy as AvP but I don't think taking humans out of the equation would be a box office draw. Or do some crazy reversion that shows what the day-to-day life of a Predator is (kids, family, job, mowing the grass). I always saw the relationship of Predator to humans much like a hunter and a deer but maybe with more of a Most Dangerous Game bent and the original movie was nothing more than Predator's yearly vacation to get some trophies and escape his other life responsibilities. Just imagine the bait-and-switch you could do to audiences expecting an action movie and then you give them an everyday life movie. And that might sound like a horrible idea, but remember The Predator exists.
EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
Last few predator movies felt ordinary tbh.
I dunno, unless it's actually a secret to the audience that this is a predator film, I don't think you can do the "hey, look at all these bodies strung up in trees/rafters, whats that all about?" bit very often. So you do kinda gotta lead with the Pred being present, then you can take a diversion and introduce the new batch o'humans.
This is why the human story needs to work on its own. It's can't just be about reacting to the Predator, it needs to have an arc we can anticipate, then gets DERAILED by the Predator. This is where Prey, I think, kinda fails. If we had more set up about tension between the tribe and the trappers, with the pred kills inflaming it as they each blame the other and it leads them to open warfare or something, I think that would have set the stakes higher, made the characters more interesting, and given the girl more agency instead of "I wanna be a supa hunter except I'm also kinda lazy".
Even in the OG Predator film, I think I've seen various cuts where it was made more or less obvious that the American "CIA guys" killed by the rebels where there specifically because they were looking for the Predator, the first team was also looking, Dutch only came in as a last resort and Dillon (RIP) knew/suspected all along. Might be conflating some comics, novelizations, and Pred2 though. But anyway, Pred1 has it's own plot arc (Dutch fighting the rebels to free the hostages) which was crucial to setting up the characters. I feel like the later films skip this part and go straight to predator fighting which is less interesting as a film IMHO.
March Climber
Member
bender
What jason10mm is saying here is closer to what I feel the ultimate idea would be with Predator, but potentially combined with yours. At the time you would have had Fox movies in different genres, with different names that would be what they advertised for half of it, and then slowly the realization happens that a predator is there. And J jason10mm the way to fix the audience immediately knowing it’s the predator would be to give each one different kill-styles and tech (which this director hinted at with Prey)
Imagine a Game-of-thrones esque movie with intrigue and knights fighting, there is a slight mention of a killer leaving behind skulls but it doesn’t affect those around the throne until it begins to, and then one of the realizes it’s a cloaked creature stalking people at night.
Or a sci-fi movie where people are being killed one by one on a ship. It devolves into a situation of no one trusting anyone and finally after people kill each other and only one is left, the predator reveals itself (as if to gloat) and then that one guy, who ended up killing the last person that could have helped, now has to contend with this new cat and mouse game with a creature that is an expert in hunting.
Hell, Predator 2 could have been a great cop-drama like Lethal Weapon and then later on it appears.
I would even place a slower, larger predator in a random raunchy rom-com like an American Pie(that way the movie is rated properly) and suddenly shift the genre once he appears.
These movies would come out far from each other, up to 5 years or more to keep people on their toes. And there would be zero hints each time. It would be looked at as one of the greatest moments in movie history.
bender
What time is it?
To say something nice about P2, unlike P1, the opening is masterful and I love how it uses the audiences expectations against us.
More stupid ideas:
Relatives of the original Predator capture Dutch and bring him back to the Predator home world to stand trial where he has to escape.
Predator's take part in the Most Dangerous Game for some Predator on Predator action.
