Hostile_18
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Sure but not from the original developers. Same as the way every PS2 game can play at 4k on the PC via emulators.
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PS5 No enhanced patches?
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Sure but not from the original developers. Same as the way every PS2 game can play at 4k on the PC via emulators.
dotnotbot
Member
We still don't know.
Krappadizzle
Member
C'mon man. While yes, I agree that many people, myself included, expect God of War, Bloodborne, TLOUII to get a 60fps patch. They have too. If some smaller games devs put them out for their games and Sony doesn't for their biggest, it'd be a huge disappointment. I can't imagine they'd do that. It'd be such a missed sizzle reel opportunity to have God of War and Bloodborne running at 4k/60fps at the start of their new conosle release. I'm 97% sure they'll not let that go by. They have to know that the player-base wants that and they are "for the players" as they like to say. I hope ALL their shit comes to PC. It absolutely should, AND it should get the treatment on PS5 as well.
geordiemp
Member
Same as XSX support for patches of Xb1 games from 3rd party.
Captain Hero
The Spoiler Soldier
I ordered the PS5 for the games not for the old games so it doesn’t matter to me .. on the other hand , I ordered XSS for the old games 
Hostile_18
Banned
Very, very unlikely IMO. Would have been amazing to get it though.
Krappadizzle
Member
C'mon man. While yes, I agree that many people, myself included, expect God of War, Bloodborne, TLOUII to get a 60fps patch. They have too. If some smaller games devs put them out for their games and Sony doesn't for their biggest, it'd be a huge disappointment. I can't imagine they'd do that. It'd be such a missed sizzle reel opportunity to have God of War and Bloodborne running at 4k/60fps at the start of their new console release. I'm 97% sure they'll not let that go by. They have to know that the player-base wants that and they are "for the players" as they like to say. I hope ALL their shit comes to PC. It absolutely should, AND it should get the treatment on PS5 as well.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
Yeah but the backwards compatibility team at Xbox already are enhancing Xbox one games themselves example gears of war ultimate edition will run at 4K on the series x
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
How disappointing.
So as it stands games will not be enhanced on a per game basis. What this means in reality is that;
- Only games with dynamic resolution will be "enhanced" to reach the resolution cap (which in many cases is less than on the One X version I.e Red Dead Redemtion 2).
- Only games with uncapped or an unstable frame rate will benefit from the increased power.
I honestly find this SUPER disappointing as enhanced patches were my most hyped feature. (Just imagine Uncharted 4 at 4k 60fps!).
Pretty sure I'm done with Playstation now with this and the price increase. Got some serious thinking to do now about whether I still want a PS5.
This is why I said we should be concerned about Sony's silence regarding its backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried...
Its not up to Sony to patch any games other than ones they develop themselves. That has to be approved by the publisher and/or developer as its their copyrighted property.
In either case if they don't feel like the effort is justified, or can't spare the manpower to do the work and resubmit it for QA, it aint happening.
Its that simple.
Skifi28
Member
Every individual game doesn't work when emulating, that's the point I'm making. It requires 100 times the effort and you still get less playable games. Also, neither the X nor the PS5 are strong enough to emulate the one/ps4 so both company approaches depend on individual patching by the devs.
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ethomaz
Banned
I'm sure Bloodborne is in the TOP100 popular list that Sony tested themselves to make it work in PS5 BC Boost Mode.
The Wheel of Fortune
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For you, OP:
Concern
Member
This thread is about the Ps5 backwards compatibility. Yet all you've mentioned here is "xsx this, xsx that".
Quit derailing the thread.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
The Xbox team has a whole backwards compatibility team that are patching 4K Xbox one games with out the developers
Svengoolie007
Banned
I'm not sure why people seem to put so much value in how a new console runs old games. I also don't know how you expect it to just magically be better without developers doing work on it. Maybe it's just that I'm old and like generations but I want the games I enjoyed to be what they are, and then you move on. I mean would you have wanted Super Mario World remastered for N64 or something? No, it's perfect the way it is. Why are we in that mindset now?
Demon2blades
Member
Don't get one then if you feel they aren't catering to your needs but imo people want new games all while asking for their old games to be almost remade for new gen for free, how do people think studios get the time for this and pump out game after game especially with how long games take to make these days that's my opinion on the matter .
ethomaz
Banned
If it is a 60fps patch I don't know.
But Cerny (and Sony) said in March that the TOP100 games in popularity where already tested to work in PS5 BC Boost Mode (that needs patch and allow enhancements over the PS4/PS4 Pro BC modes).
I'm sure all these games you guys are talking are included in that TOP100 list from March... it is probably bigger today.
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DonJorginho
Banned
Most first party titles will receive framerate boosts on top of their PS4 Pro boosted features.
Sony have not officially confirmed whether patches for performance will or won't be a thing for the PS5, so I think you're jumping to conclusions OP.
And even still, I never get why people go through a whole gen, only to get annoyed that the brand spanking new gen will prioritize fresh new groundbreaking experiences rather than put all their efforts into upgrading old titles from as far back as 2016 in the case of the game you were anticipating a patch for in Uncharted 4.
I would love upgrades for all games and it will be slightly disappointing if they don't include some sort of boost feature for most games, however that won't make or break my hype for next gen, and imo it shouldn't break your hype either, just wait for the list of titles getting boosts my friend, PS5 will deliver new memorable experiences in the places of those games you don't get boosted.
Sony have not officially confirmed whether patches for performance will or won't be a thing for the PS5, so I think you're jumping to conclusions OP.
And even still, I never get why people go through a whole gen, only to get annoyed that the brand spanking new gen will prioritize fresh new groundbreaking experiences rather than put all their efforts into upgrading old titles from as far back as 2016 in the case of the game you were anticipating a patch for in Uncharted 4.
I would love upgrades for all games and it will be slightly disappointing if they don't include some sort of boost feature for most games, however that won't make or break my hype for next gen, and imo it shouldn't break your hype either, just wait for the list of titles getting boosts my friend, PS5 will deliver new memorable experiences in the places of those games you don't get boosted.
lastmessiah
Member
It isn't magic dude. When I upgrade my GPU somehow all of my games "magically" perform better. It isn't a lot to ask. A console is just a PC.
Boss Mog
Member
I don't think you understood what was said, the stuff you're talking about is, without a patch, using the PS5 boost mode. Companies will be free to release patches for their PS4 games that would allow for higher resolution and framerates on games where those are locked. It's up to each publisher/developper to choose if they want to do that but I don't expect many will because patching last gen games won't be a priority for them, especially if they can sell you a "remaster" with the goodies you crave.How disappointing.
So as it stands games will not be enhanced on a per game basis. What this means in reality is that;
- Only games with dynamic resolution will be "enhanced" to reach the resolution cap (which in many cases is less than on the One X version I.e Red Dead Redemtion 2).
- Only games with uncapped or an unstable frame rate will benefit from the increased power.
I honestly find this SUPER disappointing as enhanced patches were my most hyped feature. (Just imagine Uncharted 4 at 4k 60fps!).
Pretty sure I'm done with Playstation now with this and the price increase. Got some serious thinking to do now about whether I still want a PS5.
This is why I said we should be concerned about Sony's silence regarding its backwards compatability plans last week. Some people there told us a it was all in hand and not to be worried...
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Skifi28
Member
Going by your previous post with Gears, you're talking about Microsoft patching Microsoft games. Are they enhancing random third party games?
Hostile_18
Banned
Not everyone is like that. I'm no fan boy. PS4 is my main console, I have over 250 digital games. I'm just not afraid to criticise a company I love.
MrS
Banned
Two companies with two different strategies, priorities and ways of making products. Just because one does it, doesn't mean the other can or should. Neither box is perfect. If this particular issue is a dealbreaker, fair play - there is a console that's better for your needs. Not sure your next gen preferences are threadworthy, though.
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NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
What enhancements are you getting somewhere else other than higher framerates?
CatLady
Selfishly plays on Xbox Purr-ies X
Hostile_18
Banned
Neogaf this last month. The calm crowd are just the casuals who buy FIFA and COD every year. Love you guys haha ❤
diffusionx
Gold Member
Resolution, draw distance, more detailed shadows, better anti-aliasing, you know, higher settings.
Neko Mimi Mode
Member
Richard from DF said they were working on a framerate doubling feature which would avoid devs having to step in for a 60 FPS cap on BC games.
That does little for the resolution, but keep in mind Series X will play One X games which usually had higher max resolution than PS4 Pro anyway.
Hostile_18
Banned
So what was Mark Cerny on about with the "top 100 games will be enhanced by playtime" if he was just talking about minimal Boost mode on all games. It's really misleading.
Calverz
Member
I doubt sony are going to spend the reaources to create enhanced patches for games. I mean look at the spiderman situation. The writing is on the wall
Kokoloko85
Member
Ghost of tsushima is getting a free boost 60fps
Michael Hawk
Member
Need to make sure I understand you. You want Sony to patch all of their PS4 games for PS5?
Skifi28
Member
I mean, the tweet for tsutsima is right there. Jesus.
NeonGhost
uses 'M$' - What year is it? Not 2002.
They already have done a whole bunch of 360 games when the one x launched I don’t see why not with Xbox one games that never received resolution increases. Let’s hope Arkham knight gets a patch from the backwards compatibility team
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Too soon
Svengoolie007
Banned
Well yeah, like I said, I'm old fashioned is all. I realize I'm in the minority of this opinion. I liked a new generation seeming like an epic step forward, rather than just like a new model of cell phone that's a little better, a little faster. I have PS5 preordered, and yet I haven't been impressed with any graphics that I've seen for anything. Like the city in Spider-Man looks a little more vibrant now, I guess? Doesn't even feel worth the upgrade at this point but I got all swept up in the pre-order hype. >_>
Skifi28
Member
Once again, emulation =/= hardware BC. I think I'm done with this thread, it just goes in circles. People are being deliberately obtuse at this point.
soulbait
Member
I say this as an Xbox first gamer: remember you are really there for the games; everything else is extra.
If you love the first party games on PS (I know I do. Xbox first, does not mean Xbox only), I wouldn't abandon them so quickly. Maybe this slows down you buyig a PS5 as soon as you would have, but in the end of the day the new games will still be world class.
For me, the reason why I am Xbox first is because I have always felt MS was the best for these type of things: OG Xbox - Xbox Live, 360 - stability of Live, Live party systems, media streaming, Xbox One - stumbled out of the gate (lol), but really brought forward the digital future with games going along with you, backwards compatibility, and now the forward thinking of Xbox Series X along with GamePass. Launch titles are usually not the best, but I know I am going to be able to continue to play through my library, with many of them being a lot better once on the XSX.
However, I will still get a PS5 down the road (more than likely when the new Horizon game comes out). PlayStation is not the first place I go to game, but there is still a lot of entertainment to be had there.
If you love the first party games on PS (I know I do. Xbox first, does not mean Xbox only
), I wouldn't abandon them so quickly. Maybe this slows down you buyig a PS5 as soon as you would have, but in the end of the day the new games will still be world class. For me, the reason why I am Xbox first is because I have always felt MS was the best for these type of things: OG Xbox - Xbox Live, 360 - stability of Live, Live party systems, media streaming, Xbox One - stumbled out of the gate (lol), but really brought forward the digital future with games going along with you, backwards compatibility, and now the forward thinking of Xbox Series X along with GamePass. Launch titles are usually not the best, but I know I am going to be able to continue to play through my library, with many of them being a lot better once on the XSX.
However, I will still get a PS5 down the road (more than likely when the new Horizon game comes out). PlayStation is not the first place I go to game, but there is still a lot of entertainment to be had there.
lastmessiah
Member
You are focusing on the wrong things. There are already millions of games out there, and the better they perform the more fun they are to play. Graphics do not make a game better, no matter what generation it is. You should be asking where is the next-gen gameplay.
Jibran#one
Member
Gears and ori are getting free 120 fps boosts also i think for forza horizon 4 is getting full 4k 60 I think these are the boosts the op is talking about and he's not wrong paying money for ps5 version of Spiderman is a dick move no matter how you see it when first party ms games are getting boosts for free
danielJackson
Banned
As long as 99% games work on PS5 = I dont care
They run and look good enough on pro, so they will on PS5.
They run and look good enough on pro, so they will on PS5.
soulbait
Member
I would hope with BC games, the saves would transfer, there is nothing different with the game. The issue is when going from a PS4 game to a PS5 game and saved do not carry forward.
geordiemp
Member
Your hear trolling, stop it, everyone knows yor posts and what your doing, its not funny and convincing nobody,
Try and have a decent conversation, your post history is quite clear. Grow up.
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