firehawk12
Subete no aware
Wow, the Xbone adapter bundle is 120 in Canada... the same price as Guitar Hero with the new guitar. I think I've experienced sticker shock.
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Rock Band 4 announced for PS4 and Xbox One
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I think the 30+-ish demographic are the ones with the disposable income to buy peripheral bundles and regularly purchase DLC, so, to some extent, yes.
Ok go enjoy your GH: Live with your Skrillex and nu-metal bands. We'll be over here enjoying good ol' classic rock. Btw I'm in my 20's and music from the 70's and 80's are 100x better than most of the stuff that comes out nowadays.
A good resource I use is to search all game add-ons on the xbox marketplace website for RB3 and sort them. Most of the top songs are the free one FyreWulff mentioned in his post. I like to use it to see if there are any really popular songs I missed out on. Granted, this is most downloaded by the general public so if your music tastes are different from the general public then this list may not be what you want to use but here it is regardless (you can also sort by best selling today to see what people are getting now days which will include more RB3 DLC):
Best selling all-time
Best selling today
Quiet down kid, adults are having a discussion here.
So probably $40 for the standalone adapter? That's kind of a hard pill to swallow.
Would be nice to get a discount or something for people purchasing the full band bundle.
von Stroheim
Member
Damn right!
Scorpion Soldier
Member
Did you mean to type 2016 or just delay until later this year? Just making sure.
Oops.
Yeah, I'll see how they manage the game and such post release. Interested in their DLC plans and if they have any idea working with the things that are missing. I'll definitely jump on it later, but for now it's a little outside of my available budget.
Scorpion Soldier
Member
I'm kind of about to lean in the same direction. I mean, I really want to play it, but a 140-150 Euro's for just the guitar bundle may just be too much for me to afford at the moment.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's only 20 dollars in the US though, so we're getting pretty screwed. Maybe if Walmart gets the Xbox adapter bundle, it will be priced at 100, but right now it's only 40 dollars more to get a brand new Rock Band guitar.
toymachine
Member
And coincidentally one of the best charts ever, haters gonna hate.
Cipher Peon
Banned
Whoa slow down there friend.
No need to draw lines in the sand! We should embrace music taste diversity!
PROh1bited
Banned
I can't see it being on sale for $100 less on Black Friday. Maybe if they had EA publishing. But not as an independent developer.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
If nothing else, I expect Xbox adapters to be super rare like the midi adapters. I have a feeling that the actual instruments will at least be available on Mad Catz's own site for a long time... especially considering they seem to have bet the future of their entire company on RB4.
I have a potential Xbox "export previously purchased DLC" issue and I wanted to post it here and see if anyone else is having a similar problem.
But I logged into my Microsoft account and I went online to look at my purchase history just to make sure it's showing all of my old Rock Band/Rock Band 2 DLC as being purchased. Just to verify that it's there and I'll be able to download it when RB4 is released. But when I checked, it shows... none of them. Now I know I absolutely bought DLC on my Xbox 360 for the games but it shows nothing. It's only showing random purchases that I made so it looks like it's missing other things besides just the Rock Band DLC. It's still concerning though and makes me worry that I'll be missing out on a bunch of DLC that I already bought. Has anyone else had this happen? Hopefully it's nothing to worry about.
Edit: Nevermind, I'm dumb. Finally figured it out. I had to look directly under the game's DLC, not my purchase history. It's there.
But I logged into my Microsoft account and I went online to look at my purchase history just to make sure it's showing all of my old Rock Band/Rock Band 2 DLC as being purchased. Just to verify that it's there and I'll be able to download it when RB4 is released. But when I checked, it shows... none of them. Now I know I absolutely bought DLC on my Xbox 360 for the games but it shows nothing. It's only showing random purchases that I made so it looks like it's missing other things besides just the Rock Band DLC. It's still concerning though and makes me worry that I'll be missing out on a bunch of DLC that I already bought. Has anyone else had this happen? Hopefully it's nothing to worry about.
Edit: Nevermind, I'm dumb. Finally figured it out. I had to look directly under the game's DLC, not my purchase history. It's there.
How did you look at an individual games DLC that you purchased?
That actually is an incredibly convenient solution. I'm also dreading this, and it never occurred to me to even think about a "DLC pre-load" prior to launch.
I actually scanned through the DLC page by page and had to look for what it showed as "already purchased." That's the only way I saw to go about it.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Oh, now I remember, it's in your Xbox 360's purchase history, not your Xbox One's purchase history. There's a separate page for that on the Xbox website.
Wouldn't you be able download the songs in the background and just play the on disc songs while you're waiting? If you're dying to play your DLC you can just play them on your old system unless you threw everything out the window.
Assume so, Rock Band 3 (and Blitz) would detect a finished download and rescan the music library as your songs downloaded.
If the ported DLC is 'published' to the stores pre-release, then you'll just be able to download them before the game releases anyway.
Kor of Memory
Member
Ugh... I need to buy an X1 for this game because I am not starting my entire library over dammit.
Cheapest X1 I can find is $350 for either the Master Chief Collection or the Gears collection. Is there not a "non collection" version out there that might be cheaper by $50?
I haven't followed the X1 hardly at all, so I don't know if a price drop is around the corner or not, either.
Cheapest X1 I can find is $350 for either the Master Chief Collection or the Gears collection. Is there not a "non collection" version out there that might be cheaper by $50?
I haven't followed the X1 hardly at all, so I don't know if a price drop is around the corner or not, either.
Check out cowboom.com if you're okay with used, and see if you can find a decent used console that has a controller/etc. I'm in the same boat with my RB collection.
Kor of Memory
Member
Also, is there a place online that I can check my purchase history? I want to make sure microsoft still sees all the DLC I've purchased since I've been inactive for a couple years now.
I'd be pretty pissed if I bought a new Xbox only to find out the DLC is all gone anyway.
I'd be pretty pissed if I bought a new Xbox only to find out the DLC is all gone anyway.
We are about to hit the holiday season, so it is almost guaranteed that you will be able to grab an Xbox One cheaper than $350 in the next few months (at least if you consider gift cards in the price).
Microsoft has never removed purchases for inactivity
but you can view 360 download history here
https://live.xbox.com/en-US/download/history
Also I'd just wait until RB4 is actually out to get a One.
Kor of Memory
Member
I'm probably going to pre-order RB4 for the extra songs, and then buy the X1 after RB4 shows up.
I just feel very weird buying a game I don't have a console for yet.
No it's not. There's a fuckton of great music that doesn't lose to 70s/80s music at all. If anything, there's a lot more great music nowadays than in the 70s/80s thanks to all kinds of new avenues to promote & share music through.
Your kind of young ones in your late teens/early-to-mid 20s are the silliest music fans. You find some Beatles, Queen & Pink Floyd and suddenly no good music exists past their peaks. That's just dumb BS.
it does (i don't have the money anymore so i had to kill all of my preorders)
dog died and truck caught on fire in the same week
But at this point if you've held out on a One there's nothing to lose from waiting a little bit longer. The deals get better week by week.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
Yeah, if I see a good deal, I'll grab it, but for the time being, I'm waiting until the weekend before the game comes out.
Kor of Memory
Member
Jesus...
Man, I've never seen a more clear cut sign that you need to change your life path into that of a country music singer.
I said 70's/80's music is better than MOST modern songs. I'm including the shit they play on the radio like Skrillex and Kanye and Katy Perry. That wasn't a diss to any modern rock bands. They're just not as popular to the average music consumer. I still enjoy Tenacious D, The Darkness, Disturbed, Avenged Sevenfold, anything Dave Grohl is in, etc.
GuitarAtomik
Member
This is still based on flawed logic. Especially as someone in your 20's, you have the benefit of not being exposed to the majority of bad music from those eras because no one talks about them anymore and archiving stuff from then isn't as thorough as today. 90% of the stuff you've probably heard from the 70's/80's was filtered over time to the most memorable and popular. Not to mention there's just more music out there today in general because of how democratized recording music has become in the last 15ish years.
MoneyLaunderer
Member
RB4 will force me to use my XB1 more. Can't lose my DLC. Dove back into RB Blitz the other night. Too bad the RB4 songs won't be playable on that.
I couldn't give a fuck about popularity. Lots of incredible artists didn't get their due in their time (someone like Nick Drake killed himself because he couldn't catch a break). Lots of shitty music was popular in the 80s. Lots of copy-cats and just straight down shitty music were on the top of the lists then. No one just wants to remember them anymore (or remembers it with some kind of twisted nostalgia, something you can laugh about, "remember this horrid song, oooh, good times"). Great music/bands exists in great(er) numbers nowadays. Some of it even has a decent size following, even if it doesn't reach MTVs playlists or wide radio circulation.
You just have to somewhat actively be on the lookout for new bands through services like Soundcloud, Bandcamp, Spotify, Youtube and even MySpace (some smaller bands still put some samples there). Music reviewing sites are also a good place to start. Sites like Pitchfork can be a bit pretentious, but I routinely check out their site just to see if there have been reviews of new albums from bands/artists that I've never heard of and then I go to Spotify and/or Youtube to try to find their songs and see if I might like them. Another good way are forums like NeoGAF. There are often threads like "New album from X" and if I'm all "who?", I'll check it out. I found Janelle Monae from some NeoGAF thread that way a couple of years ago.
One of my most recent totally random founds was Torres. Just happened to saw some interview of her. Went to Spotify. Listened to a few songs and instantly fell in love with the music. Incredibly haunting sound.
I bought one last week. I wanted a Kinect, the CAD keeps dropping (meaning I don't expect to get a better deal than the $50 off one), and the Kinect-containing bundles are slowly disappearing.
If you're in the U.S., though, I'd say it's definitely worth waiting until Black Friday to buy the console.
PAULINK
I microwave steaks.
Yo, I'm so doing this. I just need to come up with a good short video, but I doubt I can contain my excitement for less than 3 and a half minutes.
... and that memorable music is what makes it into Rock Band. Unlike the current artists who are featured, which are more often songs that still have the marketing machine pushing them but which won't be remembered as favorably in 30 years. Sure, there's a lot of great music being released now (and I can finally discover more of it thanks to Beats 1!) but there's no chance what I'm enjoying most will get picked up for Rock Band.
The 80s are just the earliest full decade where decent recording, mixing, and mastering techniques did a good job of capturing great music. Add perspective and stir.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Not really relevant to my point. I was replying to someone commenting about the music landscape as a whole. Not just what makes it to Rock Band's library.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Still not enough post-hardcore/prog metal/metal in general.
I need songs that are hard but fun to play, about 3/4 of the songs on the RB3 disc are boring to play.
I need songs that are hard but fun to play, about 3/4 of the songs on the RB3 disc are boring to play.
Baron von Loathsome
Member
One, it's called a difficulty curve. Two, easy is not necessarily equivalent to not fun. I Ran (So Far Away) and More Than a Feeling are two good examples. Three, I doubt you've actually played any of the songs yet.
Speaking of difficulty, though, apparently two songs on disc had devilheads on all instruments at PAX: Metropolis Pt. 1 and Dream Genie.
Even vocals? Just kinda feels like this one would be all talkies.
Still eager to play it though. And by "play" I mean "flail towards the drums and hope I pass".
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
I was talking about Rock Band 3. I have 107+ songs I downloaded because it's the music I like and it's not boring trash IMO. I'm also sour that RBN songs won't be on RB4, that's more than half the content I bought and downloaded and it's bs.
Can't blame a girl for trying to, you know, actually bring the discussion back around to the focus of the thread in the first place? I agree with your general point that music from this era isn't inherently inferior. I happen to also agree with the prior poster that current music likely to make it into Rock Band 4 won't stand the test of time the way 70s/80s classics have.
come the fuck on.