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Rumor - Sony intends to acquire CD Projekt Red and Days Gone 2 in development
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TheRedRiders
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I think PS may want to take advantage of Witcher/Cyberpunk's extremely large player base, an excellent opportunity to make money especially with something like a Witcher multiplayer.
The Cockatrice
Member
He was right. Critics bombed the dialogue and the white culture the game was apparently "appropriating". The game had performance issues at launch but that never stopped critics from praising other games with performance issues. I didnt see anything disruptive at all. Besides, he's a boss, he has to put his foot down so naturally most directors/ceos will sound like assholes. No, that wasnt it. Everyone knows the real reason the game got shut down.
kicker
Banned
I don't understand this, why do *you* care about either studio's needs?
Currently, Larian releases games on all platforms possible so everyone can play and discuss their games together.
How would it benefit *you* for Larian to suddenly make their games exclusive to one platform or the other?
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Yoboman
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If you are Larian why would you sell now?
They are banking on BG3 being a hit. They have the capability to break through and become every bit as popular as the big RPG studios
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
yea what happen to greg/ grubb Sony big acquisition few months ago?
Gorgon
Member
Pretty much this. I don't believe this rumour, but it would be a great aquisition. If western AAA RPGs are your bread and butter of gaming, MS is in a far better position on the exclusive front. Bethesda (Elder Scrolls, Fallout, Starfield) and Obsidian (The Outer Worlds, Avowed) as MS first parties is big (the shenanigans with publishing are a different story that I won't go into here). Even avant gard/experimental/artsy titles like Hellblade, which used to be something Sony historically delivered (Shadow of the Colossus, Heavy Rain, etc) are pretty much dead this generation for Sony.
Both consoles have great lineups, present and/or future (if they ever come out), but Sony is severely lacking in some fronts except for multiplats. At the end of the day, it's about personal preference, but for me titles like TLoU online, Horizon, God of War, and Spider Man don't do shit. The only exclusive title I care about on PS is Ghost of Tsushima and I havent even finished the first game yet. And timed exclusivity is mute. Even here MS has an edge as far as my personal taste goes, with e.g. Stalker 2, which for all we know may end up exclusive to MS. What does Sony has to show? Knights of the Old Republic Remake, which probably at this time is vapourware, but even if it isn't it's a timed exclusive anyway, just like Persona 6.
Assuming MS gets their act together and the games start coming out, and assuming you have the disposable income, the Xbox SX is starting to seem to me quite appealing as a second home console. If you can have only one console or only want one console, and your preferences are western RPGs, then Sony is pretty underwelming and always has been historically, and MS has a very substantial advantage here. And western RPGs are a huge thing in the western gaming market as far as single player games go. You can't ignore them.
Duno. If MS gets its act together, I probably will end up going multiplat this generation. Anyway, given that this is about two companies that need exclusives to move consoles, Sony needs to have some serious western AAA RPG guns, and they have nothing, not a single dedicated studio with a couple of exclusive IPs.
Note: I'm ignoring th PC here because I don't have one. I was a PC-only player until the PS3 generation, but these days I use a Mac for work, so I have no PC available nor do I want to go that route again. If you have one then all the above is mute.
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Mibu no ookami
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Lots of people speculated that Sony would buy Bluepoint games and that shortly came true. In fact, sony helped leak that early with the banner coming out fo PlayStation Japan.
For context: Sony leaked this on June 30th 2021 and it became official October 1st. 3 months later, probably the longest that they were allowed to keep quiet on it.
Slightly different situation, especially since CD Projekt is publicly traded, but the move does make a lot of sense to combat the purchase of Bethesda.
Also in line with my speculation that Sony wants a PC Storefront as their true aim in releasing PC games isn't just revenue on their PC releases but revenue from other PC games and their ability to leverage exclusivity deals on PlayStation would extend well to exclusivity on PC.
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feynoob
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The money from those companies is enough for them to make multiple games.
Yoboman
Member
Bluepoint was an obvious one, especially with the leaked image. Kind of like if I made a rumour that Sony is going to buy Arrowhead Game Studios (Helldivers 2), there's a good chance I get it right
CD Projekt fits Sony in a lot of ways, fills gaps they need. But I can't help but return to the fact they've had a terrible business relationship. Botched ports, marketing deals with Microsoft, Witcher 2 skipping PS entirely, CD Projekt telling people to get a refund from Sony, Sony pulling Cyberpunk off the store. From that perspective it seems a terrible fit
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Wait, aren't you usually pro-acquisition? IIRC, at least that has been your stance in the MS/ABK thread.
Yoboman
Member
Didn't they say a few weeks ago they are taking on loans for acquisition opportunitiesSony isn’t going to make any big third party purchases. It was all pr misdirection . They are laying off people as we speak. Or do you think Is it all for buying a big third party?
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
I doubt this rumor, but it'd make sense given Sony's recent comments. CDPR fits the bill for them:
- Their slides mention RPG games as part of their catalog. While I consider Horizon, GoT, and God of War as RPG games, Sony has listed Horizon as an action-adventure game. So their definition of RPG is clearly different.
- CDPR games are also perfect, as has been proven, for Sony Music, PlayStation Productions, and Sony Anime. Excellent synergy.
- Microsoft has hoarded almost all WRPG studios and publishers. This will get Sony a bunch of exclusive WRPG games.
- Sony does not have a presence in Poland. CDPR will change that. It's also closer to England and Netherlands, which makes travel easier to and from.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
Can’t wait for The Witcher hero shooter service game 
Captain Toad
Banned
Yes. BEFORE they launch in the first place.
StealthGoblin
Banned
CDPR makes sense to me given their shortage of WRPGs. They’d also get a stronger foothold in PC gaming.
Whether it happens or not is another thing altogether.
Days Gone 2 is not happening.
Whether it happens or not is another thing altogether.
Days Gone 2 is not happening.
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Gorgon
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Sony isn’t going to make any big third party purchases. It was all pr misdirection . They are laying off people as we speak. Or do you think Is it all for buying a big third party?
We don't have remotely the needed insider information to make that kind of reasoning. There's all sorts of scenarios in which a company may be laying off people from a studio while planning on further aquisitions. I do, however, agree with you that this rumour is most probably fake.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
They are incredibly rare, yes, but sometimes it gets leaked.
https://www.gamepressure.com/newsroom/sega-plans-to-acquire-rovio-angry-birds-devs-leak/z0546a
Sega may acquire Angry Birds-maker Rovio for $1 billion: Report - Times of India
According to a report by The Wall Street Journal, Japanese video gaming company Sega is now planning to acquire Angry Birds developer Rovio for a pric
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Fabieter
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Larian could need bigger budget and stability but I don't wanna see them bought.
Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Microsoft laid off 11,000 people and is buying Activision-Blizzard-King which has roughly 11,000 employees. How come?Sony isn’t going to make any big third party purchases. It was all pr misdirection . They are laying off people as we speak. Or do you think Is it all for buying a big third party?
Mibu no ookami
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Sony isn’t going to make any big third party purchases. It was all pr misdirection . They are laying off people as we speak. Or do you think Is it all for buying a big third party?
We actually haven't seen many layoffs at Sony and more importantly than that, they're still growing quickly at most of their studios. They've cancelled some projects that Bungie didn't deem viable, to lower operational costs, which could very well suggest that they ARE looking to make a large purchase.
Imagine they shuttered the cost of 200 million dollars worth of projects (annual cost) that's a billion dollars over 5 years in development cost alone.
If you think that billion dollars is better put towards acquiring CD Projekt with better returns, it totally makes sense.
If you think maybe 3 or 4 major games were cancelled that number could be even higher 250-300 million in annual costs. Up to 1.5 billion after 5 years.
CDPR is worth 2.84 billion dollars, so with a 30 percent premium, you're looking at 3.7 billion dollars.
You look at what they'll bring in if they keep the PS5 slim at 500 dollars instead of 400 and that's 100 dollars more of revenue (and potentially pure profit). At 20 million units a year over 2 years that's 4 billion dollars.
So you look at the operating income that Sony saves by shuttering some struggling projects and keeping the PS5 price higher and the operating income that you'd get from Witcher 1, Witcher 4, and new cyberpunk games... as well as probably having them exclusive on PS5 first and then you look at GOG becoming PlayStation Store PC and it makes a lot of sense.
The companies that I think make the most sense for Sony in order are
1. T2
2. CDPR
3. FromSoftware/Kadokawa
The reality is Sony could do both CDPR and Kadokawa.
SuperSaiyanWithDreads
Banned
What do I think? I know it’s a rumor. Rumors are made up all the time. Don’t believe me? Look at all those leaked and rumor games that suppose to have been at Sony’s showcase.
Mibu no ookami
Member
It's worth noting that they don't have transmedia rights to The Witcher and that Netflix has driven the property into the ground for TV.
It's also worth noting that WB probably has a long term contract to do Cyberpunk transmedia.
Arcadialane
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Panajev2001a
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They are also great multi media properties for them to exploit and that company kind of needs some of SIE’s studio management expertise.
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Gojiira
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You know as great as it is that CDPR is untethered and can work at their own pace, its also a downside. Cyberpunk is prime example of a studio that really needed some oversight and a little less back patting prerelease.
If Sony purchased them, not only would they be gaining Sonys excellent support and tools but also oversight with very high standards and more importantly Sony chases quality regardless of dev cycles so CDPR would clearly get enough time.
GOG as well I see less as Sony gaining a storefront for their own games on PC and more of them gaining a vast PC library with which to build from. It wouldnt be in their interest to change how GOG works better to have it as a secondary source of income and goodwill.
Idk I think it would be a good deal and I seriously doubt they would push CDPR to release on PS5 first rather than simultaneously on PC..
If Sony purchased them, not only would they be gaining Sonys excellent support and tools but also oversight with very high standards and more importantly Sony chases quality regardless of dev cycles so CDPR would clearly get enough time.
GOG as well I see less as Sony gaining a storefront for their own games on PC and more of them gaining a vast PC library with which to build from. It wouldnt be in their interest to change how GOG works better to have it as a secondary source of income and goodwill.
Idk I think it would be a good deal and I seriously doubt they would push CDPR to release on PS5 first rather than simultaneously on PC..
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
You feel like they don't have those things?CDPR given the right time and resources?
The Tourmaline Gorilla
Banned
It depends on how well it's been doing on PC.
At the end of the day, money is what it's all about. If the numbers look right, Sony will consider doing a sequel, rightfully so. And as for the devs; people need to pay for food, shelter, clothing, education and countless other things they need/want. And sometimes, it doesn't matter who's giving you that money...
64bitmodels
Reverse groomer.
i wouldn't want it but if it happened i wouldn't be surprised or even bummed out.... it'll likely be similar to bungie where they're technically owned under Playstation but can still publish multiplat
Gorgon
Member
Or someone just having a laugh at Gaf's expense, which is probably what this "leak" amounts too. It seems to be working.
Gorgon
Member
Huh, no. That would make no business sense except for the personal taste of fans. The PS doesn't need to compete on the JRPG front because everything is pretty much there already as far as home consoles go. But when it comes to WRPGs, MS has aquired two of the main western studios, with millions upon millions of potential exclusive sales (specially when you add PC into the equation). This is where the problem is. Sony just needs to keep doing what they are already doing with SE.
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