Portugeezer
Member
EA already does it (with FIFA too, full of online modes which benefit from the early play time).
EA doing it should tell you enough.
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Starfield, my thoughts about early access.
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EA doing it should tell you enough.
Stare-Bear
Banned
It’s really gonna bite MS in the rear because the word of mouth for this game is not great…
I bit the bullet and I’m regretting it. Should’ve waited for the Gamepass edition.
I bit the bullet and I’m regretting it. Should’ve waited for the Gamepass edition.
Osthyvel
Member
Thanks! Much appreciated, if i just could talk as good, but thats another storyYour English is fantastic
I agree with you as well. This practice is disgusting, especially at this price point.
People need to have patience. Starfield in 6 months @ £25 on sale is not going to be a worse game than it is today.
Robb
Gold Member
From what I recall it was pretty much the same back with the DLC/MTX discussions.
“it’s just one piece of horse armor”
“it’s just 5 days”
Sucks, but it is what it is..
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feynoob
Banned
I can appreciate your honesty.
THE DUCK
voted poster of the decade by bots
Brother, where is your space helmet?
feynoob
Banned
This explains their business practices.
With mtx and this practices, they are essentially making tons of money.
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Osthyvel
Member
I was thinking about writing this actually in my op, that i think a lot of people will regret their purchase and feel the way you feel, but i left that part. Kudos to you for being honest. I really hope you will get enjoyment out of the game down the road.
Portugeezer
Member
How is a business model that multiple publishers employ ‘negative to xbox’?
None of this fazes me. I didn’t pay for premium upgrade for Starfield. I’m not going to pay extra for Mortal Kombat 1. I certainly didn’t pay for any of the deluxe editions of Hogwarts Legacy.
I’m certainly not obliged to agree with your opinions. And I note you’re still unable to explain how selling DLC for a Gamepass title is ‘robbery’.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
I really don't understand the "problem" with this early access incentive. If someone wants to pay an additional amount of money to play a game a week early, why should that bother anyone? How does person X having a game a few days early make person Y an aggrieved party?
feynoob
Banned
We are not talking about dlc here. Just the 5 day early access.
bender
What time is it?
RyanEvans21
Member
I Want to play early! $30 more is no issue for me.
Robb
Gold Member
It’s pretty much the same scenario as a game leaking early. Footage and spoilers galore for anyone who don’t have access.
Probably even worse with this considering it’ll all be allowed to stay up. At least with leaks the companies tend to try to diminish exposure.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Each individual consumer decides what value is to them. I purchased the Premium Edition of Starfield because I wanted to binge play it during my 3-day Labor Day weekend. You don't think it worth it, so don't buy it and wait for the standard release date. I don't understand this concern for my money.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Most review sites receive games a week or more early as well, and in the modern social media age, leaks and spoilers are an unfortunate truth we all must anticipate.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
feynoob
Banned
That is what I am going to do.If you don't like it then just wait and play when it's your turn?
I already downloaded the game. Just waiting to load it, when it launches.
Yes. It’s a perk they’ve put in place to make more money. Consumers who don’t want to pay up front for the DLC aren’t harmed in any way, and the 5 days wait is relatively negligible.
If your argument here is that the ‘serious harm to gamers’ is that a 5 day wait for the street release date is unbearable, you might have bigger concerns.
It’s getting almost ubiquitous in the industry now, so I suppose this is something you’ll have to come to terms with eventually.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Cool, then why do you care if another person didn't want to wait and decided to pay an additional $30 to play now?
feynoob
Banned
It's artificial value that offer nothing, but make people spend on the higher cost product.
That is the complaint we have as consumers.
No one will give it a shit, if it's deluxe edition during launch day for everyone.
Robb
Gold Member
Poor comparison imo. Review sites usually don’t actively attempt to spoil the game for people and work with embargo dates. And as I mentioned leaks at the very least are attempted to be mitigated by companies.
I just took your statement as ‘it doesn’t affect anyone but me so who cares’. Imo it does.
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funkygunther
Banned
it's not artificial value, it is not making people, and it is not the complaint consumers who have bought it have
Lokaum D+
Member
not everyone has gamepass and sadly the game is already out into the wild.
but i agree with you, been at gamepass should negates te ability to pirate those games.
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peish
Member
EA of course meaning early access starfield bullshithousery
Day 1 on Gamepass has changed definition, if MS gets away with Starfield, they will keep doing this fake EA. Our understanding of EA is not 6 days early unlocked at a rather hefty unlocking price!
Salty Popsicle
Banned
That may be true for yourself, but to me being able to play on my 3-day holiday weekend is definitely value.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
Then you mistook my comment entirely. I said leaks are an almost inevitable circumstance for most video games and movies these days due to information being disseminated so quickly through social media. Arguing that because a bad person might want to leak important game elements no one should receive the early access perk is a weak argument to me.
Matt_Fox
Member
Got it 100% with the first comment.
Starfield is a single player game. You're not in a race to level up. You're not competing with anyone. Play the game today or in five days time, it's up to you.
Robb
Gold Member
Hardly an argument I’m trying to make. You just said:
and I explained why that would/can be the case.
Gambit2483
Member
My understanding was the procedural generation pertains to the ground/tile layout of the planet, not which planets are in what systems.
Salty Popsicle
Banned
The possibility for leaks exists whether early access is available for a game or not. Each person has their own responsibility to be careful when browsing through content on social media and knows the risk involved, including possibly being spoiled. Me having the game early doesn't affect you unless I decide to be an asshole and somehow spread the ending of the game early in a devious way to unsuspecting people.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
They advertised that games coming to Game Pass would be available on the day of release, but I can't play on the first day. If they had marketed it as 'Day Six,' it wouldn't have been a problem. I don't mind games outside of Game Pass charging extra for early access; they didn't advertise it this way. I don't care if you're a whale; I could also get early access if I wanted. I'm against the promised service not being delivered. Phil Spencer probably wouldn't defend this if he were a guest here.
Robb
Gold Member
I mean.. Leaks doesn’t necessarily have to exist. All you have to imagine is the case of being spoiled by YouTube thumbnails etc. etc. by a game that has zero leaks before launch but happens to have early access a week before launch.
There’s one thing being weary of avoiding leaks and a whole other having the game actually release to select people before launch. No one is going to stop footage from reaching you. If anything companies will likely be promoting said footage even more because they want you to buy into it.
MrMephistoX
Member
Is this confirmed to work? I bought the $99 edition lol but I might request a refund and then buy the upgrade instead. Like if I have gamepass and just buy the upgrade can I download and play today?
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mosantos
Banned
Are those layouts unique per player?
funkygunther
Banned
They never advertised early access on Gamepass. They are advertising early access for more money. Its funny language but it’s still not a scam, let them get sued if it is.
A.Romero
Member
I don't care, personally. From my perspective it is like not wanting that other people play it first. Even if it's an artificial wait made to make some money, I don't mind waiting another week. It's not like there are many games to play.
If the game existing costs 500m and it means allowing people that can an want to spend more money to play it early are milked, so be it. Doesn't impact my enjoyment in the slightlest.
If the game existing costs 500m and it means allowing people that can an want to spend more money to play it early are milked, so be it. Doesn't impact my enjoyment in the slightlest.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
Scam is calling it early access. It's not. It's 1.0 version.
funkygunther
Banned
No that’s not a scam, the version number is irrelevant. They can call and release it whatever and whenever they want. Pre-release edition, day minus-five edition. It doesn’t matter, it’s just a marketing label that they don’t include in Gamepass’ terms.
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Yes it works, that's what I did.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
They do what they want, you're right. In the next game, they ask for $30 to play one month early, and after that, they ask for $30 to play one year early... Then, some people start to argue that $30 is not enough.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yes. That's what a lot of us are doing.
And it comes with access to the first story expansion, so your money is being well spent, and not just to play the game 5 days early.
Stamps1646
Member
GamePass is not free, but it is available through a rental subscription service.
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