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The Crow - Official Trailer (2024)Bill Skarsgård,Danny Huston

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bitbydeath

Member
Been a long while since I watched the OG, but wasn’t Brendan pale after turning into the Crow because he died? Bill looks normal through a lot of it after his death, and the later imagery comes off as him applying emo paint?
 

FunkMiller

Member
Been a long while since I watched the OG, but wasn’t Brendan pale after turning into the Crow because he died? Bill looks normal through a lot of it after his death, and the later imagery comes off as him applying emo paint?

Eric is pale in both the original comic and the '94 film. But he applies the make-up himself in the movie, and from what I remember, it's implied he does the same thing in the comic (Shelley's make-up possibly?) It's really weird they have him running around post death without The Crow make-up on in this new version. Kinda like having Batman without the cowl.

And yes, I have no doubt this is something that inspired Chris Nolan with his take on The Joker.

EDIT: the irony of this shitty new film looking like it copies John Wick so much is thick, given that John Wick director Chad Stahelski was Brandon's body double in the sequences they filmed after Brandon's death in 1994.
 
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ElRenoRaven

Member
Yup. I'm just gonna nope out of this and rewatch the original which is still amazing to this day. This looks like complete garbage based on the trailer.
 
I wouldn’t mind if he was one of the other Crows or a new one but it throws me off that they used Eric Draven and changed so much. Especially considering the circumstances the original story was made and the tragedy of the 94 film.

It seems like there’s this surge in scriptwriters/Hollywood that think they’re smarter than the original creators. Stick with the source material, it’s fantastic, fans new and old will love it. It happened with Marvel and DC and seeing it here just feels depressing.

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jufonuk

not tag worthy
I have never seen the original and because of that I hold no nostalgia for it.

From my perspective after watching both trailers, they both look like different flavors of cheese. One of them is 1990s cheese and the other is 2020s cheese.

I guess it's kind of cool that he can revive like he hit a checkpoint in a video game 🤷‍♂️

Watch the original let us know what you think.
I think it was a sleeper hit

Based on the trailers alone I think the 94 crow has more charisma
 
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-Minsc-

Member
The first thing I have to do is throw away all the "this film is awesome" I absorbed from the world around me at the time I was entering my adolescence. Without going back and re-watching The Crow, I'll say it was a cool film. Adolescent me would probably find the new one cool as well. I'm not that age any more so it's no longer the type of film I want to see based off the trailer.

I wouldn’t mind if he was one of the other Crows or a new one but it throws me off that they used Eric Draven and changed so much. Especially considering the circumstances the original story was made and the tragedy of the 94 film.

I knew Brandon Lee died but never knew the past behind the original stories creator. Definitely a lot of tragedy behind the entire film which would give it something the new film would lack simply due to those tragedies not being there. One thing about the original film is we did not get the "official version". From my knowledge Brandon Lee died before they finished filming so they had to work with what they had. If Lee did not die, would The Crow be the cult classic it is today?
 
Not as terrible as I was expecting. But the first crow comes with memories for me (I still remember the news report from the set and my shock at what happened. Then the journey to actually being seen on the big screen)

I think I saw it 2 or 3 times in the cinema. Back in the day

didn’t watch very many of the sequels after they completely changed up the second movie and edited out so much. to make it deliberate nonsense and to be almost impossible to follow or understand. Not saying that would have made it better, but it couldn’t have been really any more of a disappointment after the first movie

I may watch this, but it seems more like penny wise with a shot gun. Than an actual crow movie (over the top bleakness and filled with rage, anger and sadness). The trailer suggests a sad clown that lives in a music video world, thats a bit to shiny with its darkness and grime

I hope I am wrong though. The world could do with a good crow revenge/eternal love movie. Just this doesn’t look like it …..
 

Audiophile

Member
Just for starters this should've been shot on 35mm film (or at least bounced) and with softer lenses. Looks far too clean and "high frequency".

There's only a handful of filmmakers and cinematographers out there who can make digital look good and who are making the right choices for the given content.

Seeing all this glorified Hallmark stuff just makes me die a little inside every time. Just feels soulless out of the gate before you even get to the production design and everything else.
 
Holy shit that looks so, so so so bad! Who thought this was a good idea? And I even like the B-class tv show with Mark Dacascos!

That emo Crow... OMG... this is horrible.
 

jufonuk

not tag worthy
Just rewatched the crow after all this time. The film is legit great and Brandon Lee was a great actor.
 

Ovek

7Member7
It's going to suck compaired to the original film, but it looks alright I will give it a watch as a standard summer cinema brain off, pop corn in super hero slop.
 

Rockondevil

Member
I’ll watch it and I’m sure it’ll have some nice action scenes.
Though I can’t see it being a classic like the original.
 

midnightAI

Member
Just for starters this should've been shot on 35mm film (or at least bounced) and with softer lenses. Looks far too clean and "high frequency".

There's only a handful of filmmakers and cinematographers out there who can make digital look good and who are making the right choices for the given content.

Seeing all this glorified Hallmark stuff just makes me die a little inside every time. Just feels soulless out of the gate before you even get to the production design and everything else.
They sucked the goth out of it
 

midnightAI

Member
My comment about this being the devil may cry reboot in aesthetics still stands. It’s nice they show us the whole film in the trailer.
Now this is a trailer
which movie would you rather see based on trailer alone ?

I don't actually like that trailer, not sure if it's the music or something, anyway, someone did do a trailer in a more modern style,really well done in my opinion...
 

8bitpill

Member
21st Century Garbage.

Turned 11 the summer the original came out, was a very cool movie to watch stepping into my pre-teen years.

This new one looks lazy and uninspired. Something made for kids that use Bussing, Cap, Rizz, and Finna in their daily lingo. Typical troupe of what you're seeing in every other Hollywood movie.

The one producer, was involved with The Crow 2, 3 and 4. If you watched those you know they're laughable straight to network movies.

Honestly, they should have rebooted this, set it in the early 90's, set it around the time of the L.A riots and tied it in with that timeline.

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ManaByte

Member
Honestly, they should have rebooted this, set it in the early 90's, set it around the time of the L.A riots and tied it in with that timeline.

They shouldn't have rebooted it. They should've left it alone. Let Brandon Lee be the only Crow people cared about. Don't try to have someone else take on the character. Let it be.
 

ManaByte

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There's no mystery to it at all. No conspiracy.

On March 31, 1993, at EUE Screen Gems Studios in Wilmington, North Carolina, Lee was filming a scene where his character, Eric, is shot after witnessing the beating and rape of his fiancée. Actor Michael Massee's character Funboy fires a .44 Magnum Smith & Wesson Model 629 revolver at Lee as he walks into the room.[22] A scene filmed two weeks before Lee's had called for the same gun to be shown in close-up. Revolvers often use dummy cartridges fitted with bullets, but no powder or primer, during close-ups as they look more realistic than blank rounds which have no bullet. Instead of purchasing commercial dummy cartridges, the film's prop crew, hampered by time and money constraints, created their own by pulling the bullets from live rounds, dumping the powder charge but not the primer, then reinserting the bullets. Witnesses reported that two weeks before Lee's death they saw an unsupervised actor pulling the trigger on the gun while it was loaded with the powderless but primed round. Having not removed the primer, the primer could detonate with enough energy to launch a bullet and lodge it in the barrel.[23][24]

In the fatal scene, which called for the revolver to be actually fired at Lee from a distance of 12–15 feet, the dummy cartridges were exchanged for blank rounds, which feature a live powder charge and primer, but no bullet, thus allowing the gun to be fired without the risk of an actual projectile. As the production company had sent the firearms specialist home early, responsibility for the guns was given to a prop assistant who was unaware of the rule for inspecting all firearms before and after any handling. Therefore, the barrel was not checked for obstructions when the time came to load it with the blank rounds.[23][24] Since the bullet from the dummy round was already trapped in the barrel (a condition known as a squib load), this caused the .44 Magnum bullet to be fired out of the barrel with virtually the same force as if the gun had been loaded with a live round, and it struck Lee in the abdomen, mortally wounding him.[25][26]
 

8bitpill

Member
They shouldn't have rebooted it. They should've left it alone. Let Brandon Lee be the only Crow people cared about. Don't try to have someone else take on the character. Let it be.
I agree but here we are, on the fifth one and every single one was mediocre or a straight turd.

The people that have handled it after the first just didn’t seem to care past it being a job to put it together and film it.

It really just needs a director and writer that cares about the original and source material.
 

jason10mm

Gold Member
There's no mystery to it at all. No conspiracy.
No only that, but Lee had a vest, he was just hit underneath it. Had the other actor aimed better, the vest might have saved him.

Just tragic all around, I remember where I was when I heard the news. It DEFINITELY played into the cult status of The Crow, but I think that film would have catapaulted him into megastardom regardless.
 

ManaByte

Member
I agree but here we are, on the fifth one and every single one was mediocre or a straight turd.

The people that have handled it after the first just didn’t seem to care past it being a job to put it together and film it.

It really just needs a director and writer that cares about the original and source material.

No one cared about the sequel. No one saw it. That's why 3 and 4 went direct to video.
 

ZehDon

Gold Member
This is just offensive.

No one really cared about the shitty Crow sequels, especially since NONE of them were Eric Draven and trying to replace Brandon Lee.

This is just. Fuck. I can't hate a movie more than I hate this.
Well said. A boardroom distilled one of the most tragically iconic 90s movies down to... face paint and shitty music. Fuck this movie.
 

8bitpill

Member
No one cared about the sequel. No one saw it. That's why 3 and 4 went direct to video.
and here we are with a 5th one that most likely should’ve been straight to network/streaming.

They will keep pushing these turds out. Apparently someone still wants this mediocre trash.
 

ManaByte

Member
and here we are with a 5th one that most likely should’ve been straight to network/streaming.

They will keep pushing these turds out. Apparently someone still wants this mediocre trash.

This movie was in development hell for over a decade. At one point James O'Barr was writing it and making it a pretty direct adaptation of the comic.
 

8bitpill

Member
I did and even bought the godawful game :lollipop_astonished:


I didn’t know this existed till AVGN did this review back then.

I didn’t own the Sega Saturn back when it came out. Wanted but already had a Sega Genesis.

I would’ve most likely bought this if I owned one 🤣.
 
Are they doing those trailers to bait the nerd out of fans of the original ? James O Barr wrote the original to deal with the death of his fiancée killed by a drunk driver and what he perceived as an escalation of aimless violence in society. Having rich satanists as villains is a total miscomprehension of the original.
It’s the fallout trailer all over again god dammit im too much of a nerd with ip i love 😬
came here to say the same, the story behind the original Crow is all around heart wrenching, barr slipped into morbid depression and the crow was based on most of the music he listened to to deal with, even quoted within the pages. a lot of that music and bands were then featured or covered in the soundtrack. The story took place in a post apocalyptic detroit and teh crow character itself look wise was based on stooges era iggy.

This looks like some crystal meth head that lives in the valley in current day LA. the music is trash tier and the city looks like it took place yesterday. Theres no atmosphere, no heart and no feeling of loss in any of the design or music. Seriously i think 90 percent of films in the last ten years are based around a tax write off laundering loophole we arent seeing.
 

RedC

Member
So I just finished watching The Crow.

I had no idea Ernie Hudson and Tony Todd were in this. I had to look her up because I recognized her but didn't know her name, Anna Thompson was somebody I likely was introduced to in the film that came out the following year, Bad Boys.

Nor did I have any idea that Alex Proyas directed it

I was always aware when The Crow came out but it didn't seem to have any impact on my bubble despite this film being right up my alley.

For whatever reason, I always thought it was a low-budget, B-film with mediocre to poor directing, cinematography, etc...

I watched it on Paramount Plus and was shocked at how great it looked in 4k.

This film is an example of the sum being greater than the parts.

The atmosphere, cinematography, production design, costume design, directing, and editing were done well. It visually held my attention. The lighting, shadows, comic book, urban gothic, and film noir style were great. All it made me think was how perfect Alex Proyas would've been in directing Spawn in the 90's.

The funny thing was I remember in the early 2000s how people used to accuse The Wachowski Brothers of being influenced by Alex Proyas's Dark City when the timeline didn't match up due to The Matrix's script already being completed and filming by the time Dark City came out. However, I think The Crow could've been an influence especially in the opening scene of The Matrix but also on Blade as well.

The film was definitely a time capsule and brought me back to my teenage years, especially with the alternative music, despite me being a hardcore hip-hop head.

I thought the music was a perfect complement to the overall mood of the film.

Now for my critiques: The script and acting for the most part were just OK. I didn't really feel anything during the run of the film, however, I wasn't bored either. The overall style and visuals more than made up for it plus nobody was terrible in it.

I then watched this new trailer afterward and it looks fine. Visually, I was getting Batman Begins and The Dark Knight vibes from it which likely played a part in it not standing out and looking generic but it still looks solid and well shot. For lack of a better word, I think the biggest difference is this film looks and feels more European than the original, likely from the majority of European actors and the Christopher Nolan Batman films and the visual aesthetic it gives, whereas the American films of the 90's despite some being directed by European directors and having European actors, It overall fit a certain aesthetic and style more closely associated with America at the time.
 
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jason10mm

Gold Member
So I dragged out my 30 year old graphic novel of The Crow just to refresh myself on the source material. Wooooow is that a nihilistic read. Basically just violence and gore with interludes of his grief over the loss of Shelly. The OG film added some nice elements with the witch chick and some possibility of Draven failing. Wonder if they will lean more into the skull faced guy or the possibility of Draven actually being able to return to life. The basic story is pretty one note so they do need to expand it for a film.
 

FunkMiller

Member
So I dragged out my 30 year old graphic novel of The Crow just to refresh myself on the source material. Wooooow is that a nihilistic read. Basically just violence and gore with interludes of his grief over the loss of Shelly. The OG film added some nice elements with the witch chick and some possibility of Draven failing. Wonder if they will lean more into the skull faced guy or the possibility of Draven actually being able to return to life. The basic story is pretty one note so they do need to expand it for a film.

An A24 adaptation of the actual comic book would have done better business than this fresh turd.

If you made an artsy, low key movie that leaned heavily on the examination of grief and rage, I think it could have been a decent success.

As it stands, this piece of shit is chasing a superhero trend that died last year.
 
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