That seems like a nice attention seeking overly dramatic score. Even using the full scale, that's still a joke of a score.
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That seems like a nice attention seeking overly dramatic score. Even using the full scale, that's still a joke of a score.
Yeah, I can't say that I agree.
Quite the opposite for me is true, and I certainly wasn't expecting that given the list of absent features. Obviously, that is still a major negative point and it's not a 9/10 game for me either, but it's a solid 7/10 title that I don't regret buying at all.
Yeah, I don't agree with a score like that at all. What's here works well and is a definite improvement when it comes to the core Sims gameplay. There is certainly obvious things to dislike/dock for, but that is going way too far.
Things like multitasking already make it hard to go back. Had my sim go on a date to the gym, and it was nice seeing how he could run on the treadmill, hold a conversation, and watch TV at the same time and get the benefits of each.
Things like multitasking already make it hard to go back. Had my sim go on a date to the gym, and it was nice seeing how he could run on the treadmill, hold a conversation, and watch TV at the same time and get the benefits of each.
I succumbed and bought it. Uh... very mixed feeling about this. I certainly missed a lot of shits. I ended up asking "Why?" a lot of time playing this. The core gameplay is for the better, but people saying that it has just as much stuffs as barebone Sims 3 are full of it.
Was confused as fuck when my house burned down because the fire alarms are fuck useless...No eating out, only chips at bar... Like 5 house in a nieghborhood... why? A lot of those shits.
But being able to read book on a crapper and converse while on treadmills are awesome.
Was confused as fuck when my house burned down because the fire alarms are fuck useless...No eating out, only chips at bar... Like 5 house in a nieghborhood... why? A lot of those shits.
But being able to read book on a crapper and converse while on treadmills are awesome.
I can't say I agree with anything that he's saying.
Is that a bad thing?
You'd rather wait 10-30 seconds in a taxi looking at buildings popping in and out only to arrive at a place that still hasn't had it's textures load yet in a place that's empty because it needs to render a huge world and story progression and maybe even have sub-optimal FPS if your PC isn't that good?
Really? You'd rather have that? I'd rather have 5-15 second load times in a lot that feels more lively.
Like what exactly? What extended content?
Pools? I don't think pools make or break Sims, it's not the defining feature.
Toddlers? Again, it's not the defining feature.
Not enough items/jobs? It's a base vanilla Sims game. It's always been like this.
If anything it's received multiple improvements in the form of improved CAS, improved build/buy mode, multitasking and emotions.
Because you're supposed to utilize these emotions to get the most out of everything.
Want to get better at your job? Turn up to work focused.
Want to get lucky tonight? Try to get into a flirty of playful mood.
It's not just about playing seeing the funny portraits of each emotions and getting bored of it.
Because every single EA and Sims game has been bug free.
It's subjective, but I'll just leave this here.
Saying it's boring is completely subjective.
That's kind of the point of Sims games and it's always been like this.
What the hell were you expecting? To get the same amount of content as Sims 3? A game that's had 5 years of patches, expansion packs and mods.
Complaining about content on a base Sims 4 game at launch is the most stupidest thing I've ever heard.
In my opinion Sims 3 was trash but I guess that's not surprising seeing as how it was developed by a different studio.
I think Jim has some valid points, especially with not taking some of the better ideas from expansions. Do remember, aspirations and Wants came from Sims 2 expansions into Sims 3. There were some good ideas in Sims 3 expansions that could have been used in Sims 4.
That said, I think he's stressing his points to hard. In the end, I agree with Kabouter. Sims 3 definitely is far more with all the expansions, but DAMN it runs so poorly so later this weekend, I'm probably going to uninstall it and the rest of the expansions. Too much damn jury-rigging through mods and waiting for the game to load to warrant it.
Though I did think about installing BASE game Sims 3, no expansions and, if I can, no patches, just to see how it holds up to 4.
So far though, I caved in right before the Mexican Internet, so I bought at full price, but still don't regret the purchase.
That said, I think he's stressing his points to hard. In the end, I agree with Kabouter. Sims 3 definitely is far more with all the expansions, but DAMN it runs so poorly so later this weekend, I'm probably going to uninstall it and the rest of the expansions. Too much damn jury-rigging through mods and waiting for the game to load to warrant it.
Though I did think about installing BASE game Sims 3, no expansions and, if I can, no patches, just to see how it holds up to 4.
So far though, I caved in right before the Mexican Internet, so I bought at full price, but still don't regret the purchase.
Unplayable, the base game has less content that sims 4 as well.
ricardokenshin
Member
do it for the science! I want to know this out of curiosity.
That's not really a good score for this game. It at least deserves an 7.5 at best. Overall it's still the sims
.Do it man. The thing that always bugged me about 3 was how ugly the Sims were. I couldn't get over it no matter what else they added.
FleetingFlowAir
Member
Has anyone else gotten 2 or 3 friends/acquaintances that visit your home almost each day? The AI in this game sure does prove to be really chatty with you.
KojiKnight
Member
Why are people shitting on Jim Sterling's review? Man can give a game any score he wants for any reasoning he wants. If you don't agree with it, that's fine too but the dog pile on him in the last page because he doesn't like it?
That said, I haven't yet played the game myself yet so I don't have an opinion of my own. My wife however, who is a giant sims fan, has been fully engrossed and loves it so far so EA obviously hasn't shat over the series like some people (Jim included) have implied.
That said, I haven't yet played the game myself yet so I don't have an opinion of my own. My wife however, who is a giant sims fan, has been fully engrossed and loves it so far so EA obviously hasn't shat over the series like some people (Jim included) have implied.
CelticKnight
Member
Can't speak for items, but regarding jobs that statement is apparently not true.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=124161317&postcount=945
Well it's debatable since you have 2 branches for jobs but yeah, I guess.
It's also disappointing there's there's little "normal" jobs like being a teacher or a nurse.
Finally caved in and bought the game. Tried to resist by playing sims 3 but after having to do resetsim every 5 min because of action freezes I had enough .
And as most people who shat on the previews, I ate crow, I am quite enjoying what there is.. I am just fearing what EA will do to expand.. I really hope they keep the EP model and no mini DLC/F2P Shop like model, but hearing about this premium service I fear the worse.
It happened to my sims too. stopped as soon as they lost friend status with them.
.And as most people who shat on the previews, I ate crow, I am quite enjoying what there is.. I am just fearing what EA will do to expand.. I really hope they keep the EP model and no mini DLC/F2P Shop like model, but hearing about this premium service I fear the worse.
It happened to my sims too. stopped as soon as they lost friend status with them.
I haven't played TS3 for ages and when I saw TS4 I really thought that the graphics weren't improved that much. But seeing a direct comparison between a sim from TS3 and TS4... wow, sims in TS3 were ugly.
Well, given this response, I'm underway. For the record, I am uninstalling all my Sims 3 packs and the base game. I'm deleting all the installed custom content, all script mods, and even my settings. Then, I will reinstall Sims 3 and try to prevent any automatic updating through the launcher. Not sure if I can stop it, but I'll certainly try.
OverturePT
Member
So, yea, from what I've seen in live streams I don't think the loading times are that bad. They are fairly quick and when I went to play Sims 3 after, like someone here pointed out, going to a bar or something takes for fucking ever anyway because the game gets so chunky driving around everywhere it ends up taking more time. Sims 4 optimization looks brilliant and I kind of hope that they keep the loading times in the expansions if it allows for the game to play so smoothly. I kind of don't want to play Sims 3 ,seeing 4 made me realise (something that I knew already), Sims 3 is a mess with the expansions, it has a lot of content but plays horribly.
Unplugging your internet cable/disconnecting your WiFi should work
So I have to buy everyone a tablet? Damn, that'll be costly. Thanks though, at least I know how I can do it now.
Is there any way to send your teens to high school if they miss the 8am time? My sim's just standing around and I don't know how to tell him to go.
Edit: Nvm, gives you the option after school starts in the career panel.
I have the Computer Whiz aspiration and should play video games for 2 hours while being focused.
I'm not quite sure what I have to do. Can anyone help?
The tool tip mentions playing chess or reading a book gets you focused but my Sim has always different moods, not focused.
I'm not quite sure what I have to do. Can anyone help?
The tool tip mentions playing chess or reading a book gets you focused but my Sim has always different moods, not focused.
After the abysmal nature of loading Sims 3 up, The Sims 4 loading time goes so bloody quickly, even when not comparing it to its predecessor.
ricardokenshin
Member
Yeah I want to know this too, my sim wants to go focused to work. Bought the chess set and still no focused. She is always so happy though
Not sure. I guess just stack all of the actions that make you focused and keep doing it until it works.
Play chess, browse Simpedia and read a book.
Check to make sure you have no environmental items clashing. Items that put out an emotional aura.
Bomber Bob
Banned
review is awful tho
Thank you I got it.
I checked Simpedia on the PC. This gave me very quickly the purple focused-icon for 4h. Tthe mood was still on inspired for most the time though, but apparently this doesn't matter.
I played a game and cancelled the action after 2h and the goal was fulfilled.
I got it.I checked Simpedia on the PC. This gave me very quickly the purple focused-icon for 4h. Tthe mood was still on inspired for most the time though, but apparently this doesn't matter.
I played a game and cancelled the action after 2h and the goal was fulfilled.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Not gonna lie, some of these livestreams are really entertaining, and it makes me wonder if that means I'd have that much more fun playing it myself - or do I just appreciate the commentary of these streamers as they're messing around?
I was trying to play SIms 2 Ultimate (which I got for free), and it just seemed so overwhelming. The entire catalog of expansion packs is in there, and having never played any of them, there was so much to take in all at once.
I was trying to play SIms 2 Ultimate (which I got for free), and it just seemed so overwhelming. The entire catalog of expansion packs is in there, and having never played any of them, there was so much to take in all at once.
The way to get into the expansion packs is to take it one day at a time. If you have the sudden urge to take your sim on vacation...go for it. If you want to go back to school so you can get a good career....go for it. Treat the expansion like a option for the game rather than see 100 add on's to go through.
Kinky John
Member
I didn't want this game at all. But now I really, really do.
Where's my Friends set of apartments!
There's an option to turn aging off.
That's fantastic
Initial thoughts on Base Games Versus, Sims 3 & 4:
- Sims 4 needs a tutorial removal option, IMMEDIATELY!
- For TS3, Loading into a new game is relatively quick, pop-in of structure aside. Fairly comparable to TS4.
- I forgot how much unlocking the sliders and custom skins in CAS make a difference. Sims I make look horrid to me.
- Amount of content in CAS is about the same as Sims 4, maybe a bit more. That said, though Create a Style is nice, the palette wheel is far nicer. That is something that absolutely should come back.
- Miss not being able to modify the body as well as the head. The two sliders for fitness and fatness are meh, comparatively.
- I know graphics are subjective, but I can't understand how people think sims in TS3 look better than TS4. Realistic or not. The shading and everything might be realistic, but the facial structures are ridiculous.
- Those world maps in TS4 are doing them no favors. The in game neighborhoods have more scenery, props, and look more like a living city, even with loading screens, but that's no conveyed in the world maps. TS3, being open, conveys alot more space and freedom, but looks mostly empty.
- Find it ironic that though TS3 has landscaping tools, the premade lots are 95% totally flat.
- Missing part-time jobs.
- Runs decently, but still putters at time. Decent framerate throughout, but can see little jumps, plenty of texture pop-in etc.
- Content in Build Mode is the same, if not a touch less. Again, this ignores Create a Style.
- Though Sims do show up in the area you're at, not many are passing by. They just showup. Also, they usually don't seem to be already there. I've been to gym in TS4, and all the machines were in use when I arrived.
Got to break now, but I'll give more stream of consciousness later. I'll say this, if anything, this exercises shows me how badly the expansions took the engine out back and beat the shit out of it.
- Sims 4 needs a tutorial removal option, IMMEDIATELY!
- For TS3, Loading into a new game is relatively quick, pop-in of structure aside. Fairly comparable to TS4.
- I forgot how much unlocking the sliders and custom skins in CAS make a difference. Sims I make look horrid to me.
- Amount of content in CAS is about the same as Sims 4, maybe a bit more. That said, though Create a Style is nice, the palette wheel is far nicer. That is something that absolutely should come back.
- Miss not being able to modify the body as well as the head. The two sliders for fitness and fatness are meh, comparatively.
- I know graphics are subjective, but I can't understand how people think sims in TS3 look better than TS4. Realistic or not. The shading and everything might be realistic, but the facial structures are ridiculous.
- Those world maps in TS4 are doing them no favors. The in game neighborhoods have more scenery, props, and look more like a living city, even with loading screens, but that's no conveyed in the world maps. TS3, being open, conveys alot more space and freedom, but looks mostly empty.
- Find it ironic that though TS3 has landscaping tools, the premade lots are 95% totally flat.
- Missing part-time jobs.
- Runs decently, but still putters at time. Decent framerate throughout, but can see little jumps, plenty of texture pop-in etc.
- Content in Build Mode is the same, if not a touch less. Again, this ignores Create a Style.
- Though Sims do show up in the area you're at, not many are passing by. They just showup. Also, they usually don't seem to be already there. I've been to gym in TS4, and all the machines were in use when I arrived.
Got to break now, but I'll give more stream of consciousness later. I'll say this, if anything, this exercises shows me how badly the expansions took the engine out back and beat the shit out of it.
Did everyone know that you can go to that orchard behind the Holliday house without any loading screen? I just saw a group of sims milling about there and sent my sim to investigate. I expected to encounter a loading screen, as you would just going to visit a neighbor, but there wasn't one. I could socialize and harvest the plants there to my hearts content. Small, but neat.
The amount of time it takes to dismiss a tutorial tip and have the next pop up is terrible. How they slowwwwwly fade away and then, a second or two later the next pops up. Hate it.
There already is one and has been since the game launched.
Right click The Sims 4 game in your Origin library, select 'Game Properties' then in the command line box type no_tutorial and click apply.
Full reinstall and same behavior. I think this is in EA's hands at this point.
There already is one and has been since the game launched.
Right click The Sims 4 game in your Origin library, select 'Game Properties' then in the command line box type ––no_tutorial and click apply.
Eeeehhhhh, that's a command line option. Not the same as having it included in the in-game options. Sure, it gets me what I need, but what about people who don't know about that command?
cory64 said:
Given that it hasn't launched, bear in mind that you can return it for a refund. Even if bought through Origin.
Kvothe said:
You load when visiting other lots, but the screen will highlight lots and the cursor will change when you are on another lot's spot. All the public space is loaded with a lot. Street, that back garden, etc.
Baron_Calamity
Member
70% of the time, thats what I do with The Sims 2 and 3, re-create TV sets and casts.