Jimbob Smalls
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Load of old hogwash.
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The UK votes to leave the European Union
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Load of old hogwash.
More Fun To Compute
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Well that just makes us sound no different to the French.
Not saying I called it, but I called it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=206432619&postcount=2006
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=206432619&postcount=2006
dealer-
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I never liked the UK anyway.
If you say so
Perhaps they're all down the Winchester waiting for this all to blow over (i.e. the heads of Vote Leave don't actually want to answer the difficult questions like 'what happens now?' or 'what about that £350m?' or 'what about reducing immigration now?'
UnblessedSoul
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Why are so emotionally triggered? It's time to take a step back and try to understand why things went the way they did, understand the issues English peeps are having. Stop thinking just because leave won, we hate everyone and everything in Europe.
Boy Wander
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Probably drowning his sorrows with Dave C.
justsomeguy
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Imo he has to carry a lot of the can here. He's barely lifted a finger to support "stay" and has been evasive on his personal view every time I've heard him ask.
Scotland was one of the strongest opposers to entering the common market. How things have changed.
paperboywriter
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Thanks for explaining.
PJV3
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It's all about what they are against, 30 odd years of this bullshit and now look at it.
The EU should suspend the UK if we don't pull our socks up.
Tory party bullshit.
Audioboxer
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All you can do really is make your voice heard in support of Corbyn. The guy knows parts of his party dislike him, muck up party unity and are waiting for opportunities to advance their careers.... but if he knows the people are behind him he will keep fighting.
Sumio Mondo
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I don't see any scenario where Scotland becomes part of the EU. Would the EU accept them openly?
What about the large part of the UK that voted pretty consistently to remain?
Seems a bit unfair to damn Scotland due to England and Wales?
This feeling...
please remember this feeling if you ever talk about the united states lol
Theonik
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This is all assuming that the economy doesn't contract which is very likely at this juncture. Stagnation of growth would also likely mean that less money will be invested in these areas in the long run. This is all assuming the Tories are even willing to spend that money there.
Hey Ceredigion voted to stay!
Wise in a sense, maybe, to lie low. But equally it invites people to ask (ask they should) - "You asked for this, Boris. What now?" I sincerely hope people are taking notice.
thought that just last night, his career is ruined, he is probably crying in the toilet.... he is fiercely political ans this would of killed him inside
True, but it could have easily been Denmark, Sweden or the Netherlands. Well there's also Belgium though no one would have cared if it had been Belgium
They are doing it right now by not invoking the article. The longer they wait, the more angry people and companies in the EU will become. Being held hostage by the UK doesn't make the EU happy.
PdotMichael
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You lost me here.
The EU doesn't exist solely to deal with UK's antics - although overstating the own importance is quite the British thing.
I hear our solar system revolves around Britain.
You seem to have no notion of how things are actually decided in the Eu, the member states signed off the deal and the deal the uk got was the best they were going to get
Let's just get this straight juncker isn't some grand God of Europe his power is extremely limited
God did they not cover this in modern studies at school in England or something. We covered it in 2nd year in Scotland
solidarity. non-discrimination.
I think the markets will force the UK to either use article 50 or bury it permanently. One thing that's poison for any economy is uncertainty, there are enough ways from external forces outside of Brussels to put pressure on the UK to either put up or shut up. Worse credit ratings making it harder for them to get money are already rumored.
The really bad thing is that the "let's wait pulling the trigger until we "figure it out" "à la Trump approach will also damage the rest of the EU.
The really bad thing is that the "let's wait pulling the trigger until we "figure it out" "à la Trump approach will also damage the rest of the EU.
Audioboxer
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Jimbob Smalls
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A second referendum was promised to be allowed if situations drastically changed, with the UK voting to leave the EU against Scotland's will specifically being given as an example. So essentially:
Bit Revisionist.
He's probably doing something in a toilet and it involves a rolled up fiver
You can't just keep making concessions that erode the basic principles and agreements of the union. The UK was already more of a half-member in multiple respects anyway -- at some point it's better to make a clean break than have some strange sort of quarter-member which still has a direct impact on EU policy.
I hear we have our own isolated solar system.
Well if he hadn't made that budget threat he might have had a position in the new government. The Tory party is now going to have to unite one way or another.
There is very little knowledge of how the EU operates in England, unfortunately.
Once companies move their headquarters to the EU and the UK starts losing more money due to market instability and the economy contracts, then we will see the UK start speeding up that article 50 call out
Good. Obviously I'm likely to side with them on the subject of the referendum, but the Guardian has been putting out some good quality content of late. It's a shame the wider press (including the organisations that have to remain impartial) didn't ask the difficult questions in a meaningful way when it still mattered.
Sumio Mondo
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Well, even if we didn't before, we will now anyway. lol.
Labour could have a combination of Obama, Churchill, Bevan with the looks of a male model in charge and they would win the next uk election thanks to boundary changes they'll have to wait until after the next census
His Majesty
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Spain will very likely veto their admission if Scotland declares independence.
Did you read what you quoted? UK got apparently a better deal earlier this year and Cameron didn't use that fact in his "remain"-campaign.
Well for a start the UK government doesn't have any negotiators...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36628897
paperboywriter
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True, but it could have easily been Denmark, Sweden or the Netherlands. Well there's also Belgium though no one would have cared if it had been Belgium
Doesn't matter who leaves, it will destabilize Europe. Britains exit is esp hurtful because it has one of the biggest economies and well, London.
Joelstinton14
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Yeah he is. I like the chap, he a nice bloke, good activist, but no way Leader material.
Labour party is in a mess at the moment. Mp's split, support base split, many now ukip, and no one who look like they can move the party forward and unite everyone and win an election.
At the moment i wouldn't vote for them with a barge pole.
Time to ring Dave Miliband up?
Wow. Thanks for the insight.
Maximus P
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Well, a lot of Welsh and English people voted remain, and 38% of Scotland voted leave.
It's not like anyone is totally innocent or guilty in this.
Proponents of the Remain campaign were actually quoted as saying "If we campaign on what was renegotiated, we're fucked!"
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