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X360 Mass production to begin in August
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Straightballin
Member
That pretty much says that the 360 will not ship with a HD-DVD player. To early to put it in the system.
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
This was already confirmed at E3. There was still someone hoping that 360 would ship with HD-DVD? Maybe in xmas 2006, or even one year later ;-)Straightballin said:
Kleegamefan
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Well, 2 weeks ago, MicroSoft and Toshiba had a joint HD-DVD showing in japan and Mr. Bill himself said they would be making HD-DVD hardware together...
This, along with certain X360 executives @ MS dropping hints of HD-DVD, caused a lot of speculation of HD-DVD being included with the X360 platform somehow......
I think its safe to say that at this point a more expensive, 2nd Xbox 360 SKU is the only hope for HD-DVD on the platform and even then, it will be for movies and not games...
PS3 will support BRD-ROM games according to its specs....
This, along with certain X360 executives @ MS dropping hints of HD-DVD, caused a lot of speculation of HD-DVD being included with the X360 platform somehow......
I think its safe to say that at this point a more expensive, 2nd Xbox 360 SKU is the only hope for HD-DVD on the platform and even then, it will be for movies and not games...
PS3 will support BRD-ROM games according to its specs....
Straightballin
Member
I think MS went with HD-DVD pretty much becasue of Apple going with Blu-ray.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
DopeyFish said:
Yeah...I agree...
It is highly unlikely X360 will have HD-DVD at launch....therefore, any HD-DVD upgrade would be for movies only since people with a regular red-laser X360 wouldn't be able to play new X360 HD-DVD-ROM games if they were ever released....and I don't think they ever will be...
PS3 has a BRD ROM drive built in and the specs list the console will play both BD videos (BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE) and PLAYSTATION 3 BD games (BD-ROM)
http://www.us.playstation.com/PressReleases.aspx?id=279
IMO, X360 was not designed for next-gen optical formats (unlike PS3) and an HD-DVD/X360 combo, if it ever arrives, will be an afterthought....
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
It is *official* that it won't. Every other speculation is about future, movies-only, support.Kleegamefan said:
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
There is no official word but consider:
X360 would need to be upgraded (405nm blue laser, HDMI digital outputs) to comply with the HD-DVD spec..
AND
The AAC encryption that will be used with HD-DVD (slightly enhanced version of AAC, apparently) would have to be finalized and tested in the next couple of weeks to be incorporated in X360 production...
All of the above happening in time for the August deadline for X360 mass production is unlikely, to say the least....
X360 would need to be upgraded (405nm blue laser, HDMI digital outputs) to comply with the HD-DVD spec..
AND
The AAC encryption that will be used with HD-DVD (slightly enhanced version of AAC, apparently) would have to be finalized and tested in the next couple of weeks to be incorporated in X360 production...
All of the above happening in time for the August deadline for X360 mass production is unlikely, to say the least....
Kleegamefan
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Zeo said:
Well, I don't think that will happen either since Nintendo *seems* to be against HD video output for Revolution at this time.....
Also, between HD-DVD, Blu-ray and DVDs, HD-DVD hardware will be the most expensive of the three (the spec requires stronger 405nm lasers to read HD-DVD pits which are further from the surface than BRD pits) so I don't know how Nintendo would react to those costs either???.....who knows :/
newsguy said:
Not Blim but:
Japan Xbox Summit 2005, July 25th
GC 2005 in Leipzig Germany from August 17-21
Tokyo Game Show, September 16th-18th
So there will be one major Xbox showing every month for the next 3 months...this is what we know about so far...
Should be exiting
Kabuki Waq
Member
i just hope we get news about the real launch line up......not that launch window crap.
Japan Xbox Summit is a press conference AFAIK, so I doubt there will be playable games. I hope I'm wrong but it seems like a 1 hour and a half event.Kleegamefan said:Not Blim but:
Japan Xbox Summit 2005, July 25th
GC 2005 in Leipzig Germany from August 16-18
Tokyo Game Show, September 16th-18th
So there will be one major Xbox showing every month for the next 3 months...this is what we know about so far...
Should be exiting
GC 2005 is August 17 to 21
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Edited to reflect correction.....
I told ya, I wasn't Blim
Hey Blim, I hear we will get X360 launch dates and launch price at the Japan summit on the 25th.....
What incentive have MS to do this, I wonder, with both GC 2005 and TGS 2005 happening WELL before Japanese X360 launch (December-ish??)...
If you ask me, they will wait till spacewo....er....TGS to release this information....
I told ya, I wasn't Blim
Hey Blim, I hear we will get X360 launch dates and launch price at the Japan summit on the 25th.....
What incentive have MS to do this, I wonder, with both GC 2005 and TGS 2005 happening WELL before Japanese X360 launch (December-ish??)...
If you ask me, they will wait till spacewo....er....TGS to release this information....
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Well, Blim has stated debug kits are being produced *now* in preperation for mass production at a later time...
Chittagong
Gold Member
I think I'll reserve flights to GC and TGS tomorrow. Any other events worth of attending this fall?
I don't get much informations from Japan, so I don't know the full content of the Japan summit. I know when MS will announce the launch details for Europe, but for US and Asia I have no information yet.Kleegamefan said:
If MS indeed announces the launch details for Asia in 15 days, then I guess it's just to show how much they care about Japan, by putting them first for this important information.
I'll have someone at the Japan summit with a nice camcorder, so hopefully I'll have lots of videos of this event
Kabuki Waq
Member
Blim any idea if MS is gonna shed some light on the release date, pricing and launch titles on the 25th?
edit: nevermind
edit: nevermind
I suppose, if given the option of having an hd-dvd come sandard and thereby allowing gamemakers the ability to use the extra storage for games and not just for movie playback or having a hard drive come standard and allowing gamemakers to (hopefully)take advantage of it, which there really wouldn't be any chance of if it came as just an add on.
I would choose the hard drive. I guess to me, the hard drive offers more promise of adding more to my gameplay experience than added storage does.
I would choose the hard drive. I guess to me, the hard drive offers more promise of adding more to my gameplay experience than added storage does.
Kleegamefan
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Chittagong said:
Are you intresed in Nintendo or arcades??
The JAMMA arcade show will be sometime in september and Spaceworld should be in the fall as well (no nintendo at TGS....again!!!!)
I think there might be a PlayStation festival sometime between TGS(september) and PS3 launch (Spring 2006) so that might be of intrest to you too....
ECTS should be happening sometime in the fall as well...
I'm sure there are others I am missing....
Straightballin
Member
Nitendo never said which format their going to use I belive, but said 12cm discs which is standard disc size. (Could be something other then 12cm dont really remmber)
X05 maybe ? This time it will be AFTER TGS, and that is a very good thing because publishers/devs won't decide to wait for TGS to unveil their stuff (like Starcraft Ghost 2 years ago).Kleegamefan said:
Are we sure Nintendo will have a Spaceworld this year?
Sangreal: End of september/start of October. Not in a southern Europe location this time.
Kleegamefan
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sangreal said:
BINGO....I knew I missed at least one
Operations
Member
There won't be a Spaceworld this year, Peer Schneider from IGN confirmed it.
Kleegamefan
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Lil' Dice said:
There is no power greater than X
Operations said:
Really?
Thats a shame....so it looks like Nintendo only shows stuff during E3 now....what about their Japanese delegates??
They no longer matter??
Cerebral Palsy
Banned
XMonkey said:
At the next E3?
I agree, having X05 after TGS is likely a good callBlimblim said:
wow, it's looking that there will be a very nice PR ramp up to Xbox 360 launch:
Japan Xbox Summit 2005 in July
Game Convention 2005 in August
TGS in September
X05 in September/October
Xbox 360 lunch in November
rumors have pointed to an X05 in August ... however, I trust Blimblim:killermmn said:
Blimblim said:
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Lil' Dice said:
$50, pfff, try $1900 here :lol
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Wunderchu said:
30 games, 50 a piece
For the console, I put down 400
That said, it's sure to increase on the 26th.
Cerebral Palsy
Banned
I put $60 down for the X360, Madden, and Ghost Recon. But I got stuck on the second shipment =/
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Wunderchu said:I want to visit your home
I'm not rich by any means :lol
Gaming/electronics = My vice. My wife lets me indulge because it keeps me home.
Not just that, she, I and our twin daughters have our own PCs. They are five, but they are much better with a PC than most adults I know. Plus they can kick ass on SSX3 on Xbox. Just passing on to the next generation.
Spider_Jerusalem
Member
From MS' official Xbox 360 specs:Kleegamefan said:
You're talking like HD-DVD at launch could be a possibility, but since E3 it's a fact that it will only have DVD support. Maybe in one or two years the it will get an upgrade only for movies (and it could be Blu-Ray too, if it will result to come out like a winner on the market), but for the console launch it's out of discussion.