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[Jarek23]

This is worse than I thought it would be.

I never bought Halo 4 because I kind of wanted the series to end at 3. But I've been itching to play it since it got released, avoiding spoilers the best I can. But now it looks like I made the right choice in letting the series end at 3 because I can't see myself supporting these types of business practices with my wallet.

 

[Durante]

It's great that you can still watch live tv after 24 hours without internet.

Yeah, I was worried for a second, but that seems reasonable.

 

[hal9001]

No renting, no loaning. No private sales (unless selling to someone who has been on your friends list for 30 days)

Console Checks in Every 24 hours

Trade-ins are up to the publisher and only at participating retailers

You can give a game to a friend only if they have been on your friends list for 30 days, and then it is stuck with them.

Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time

With the addition of kinect being mandatory this just seems so anti consumer.

 

[King_Moc]

Yep. But MS has the balls to own up an admit it.

Yeah, they're so ballsy. Really don't see how anyone can come up with a compliment out of this.

 

[Rourkey]

Lol that's ridic. It probably means accounts on the same system.

(How does it know that?)

Maybe Xbox's on the same network can talk to each other?

Would be massive in college dorms

 

[entremet]

Source?

He said he bet, so its pretty obvious that it's his speculative opinion and he's not presenting as a fact.

 

[Cryolemon]

Can I play my game, guaranteed, 20 years from now provided that I still have the disc and a working console?

No?

Buh-bye, I'll be taking my $5,000 a year elsewhere (including my yearly gold membership and my Creator's Club membership).

I really hope Sony do something like the creator's club. I can't see it somehow though.

 

[S1kkZ]

i loved my xbox and my 360, i love halo, pgr, alan wake, crackdown....
but i can no longer support this company with my money. fuck off ms.

 

[Guevara]

How bad was the original speculation if people think this isn't bad.

Literally no resells, no loans, no rentals.

This is pretty close though.

 

[Vyrance]

- 24 hour DRM
- 1 hour DRM if not using home console
- No games rentals
- Used games determined by publisher, participating retailers only
- Can lend a game to a friend whom has been on your friends list for at least 30 days, and only once

This summary right here. Not good at all. Horrible.

 

[Fox Mulder]

For people who are not reading it properly, basically they confirmed everything that was rumored, It's the worst case scenario.

The only thing that can save this, if there are a TON of GOOD exclusive games that get announced



No, actually it KILLED it

I have no doubts that MS has been opening their purse for exclusives and money hats. Maybe they even launch at an unbeatable subsidized price. The only way they get fools to eat this shit up is with shiny games they can't ignore.

 

[Violater]

"Because every Xbox One owner has a broadband connection, "

 

[Confidence Man]

Imagine explaining all this to a clueless parent at Best Buy.

 

[RoboPlato]

We don't know that at all. How do you know the PS4 doesnt require an online registration every you use a game for the first time? All they've said is you wont need a connection to play it. Their silence indicates they're doing something.

They've said the console can be used completely without an internet connection.

 

[L1NETT]

Lol that's ridic. It probably means accounts on the same system.

(How does it know that?)

Yeah it must be the new family plan idea.

So good news for Families I guess, don;t have to buy COD 3 times. Can multiple xbox's work under the same account?

 

[Ferrio]

Don't fuck this up Sony.

 

[Stripper13]

I'm on my phone so I'll type my thoughts in more detail a later... But this actually looks pretty good to me. I know everyone is on a hate train - and I certainly understand the anti consumer uproar.

However, with the exception of maybe the 24 hour check in, this looks very good in other areas. Not as free as we're used to, but certainly better than what I've experienced with Steam/Origin etc. Sharing with 10 friends (and a 2 player limit) is really cool given the digital/cloud element they're going for. I was really only concerned about my wife being able to play games when I'm done. And lending games to one of my close friends. Both of which I can do.

I guess it comes down to publishers now.

 

[scar tissue]

If I read that correctly, that sounds...less bad than expected?
Still pretty bad, but not terribad.

 

[Flightmare]

No way I'll be supporting this machine

 

[Danny Dudekisser]

My favorite part of the whole mess is that Major Nelson said "hey guys, we're listening."

So they listened, and still decided to say "no, fuck all of you."

 

[crimsonspider89]

So soldiers, rural areas, and second world and third world countries got boned. Also again, giving power all to GS. Better get ready for game prices to rise.

Killing Amazon/Ebay gamemarket.

 

[Wozzly]

I do like how you can install your games and play them without having to keep inserting and taking out your disc when you want to play another game.

Trying to stay positive!!

 

[waypoetic]

I'm confused.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

Ha ha, fuck off.

All the times I buy and sell used games are on eBay and Amazon as well

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

- 24 hour DRM
- 1 hour DRM if not using home console
- No games rentals
- Used games determined by publisher, participating retailers only
- Can lend a game to a friend whom has been on your friends list for at least 30 days, and only once

Yep.

 

[Garrett 2U]

This DRM policy seems perfectly fair.
Glad my brothers can still play my games.

Now let's just see the games...

#dealwithit

I think it is perfectly fine to require a broadband connection.
They are being upfront with it, it isn't like it is hidden.
The XboxOne is a device that constantly uses the internet...
If you don't have stable internet, there are other consoles.

 

[Anduron]

Can't see any good reason why publishers would enable trade ins.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

terrible

 

[rohlfinator]

Wow.

The "you can lend your games but only once" is such a ballsy slap in the face. (Unless it means only one friend at a time?)

 

[Plinko]

Sorry, all you who don't have broadband! Guess you're just not important.

 

[hngj2002]

xbox go home

 

[RionaaM]

What do you mean this isn't bad? It pretty much confirmed what we expected.

1. Xbone requires a internet connection. If you don't check in within 24 hours, your system is essentially locked.

2. You can not borrow or rent games.

3. You CAN trade your games to friends but they must be on your friends list and once you trade it, it gets tied to their account. You can only trade the game ONE time.

4. Publishers will have the ability to block you from selling/trading the game.

Just because they worded it differently doesn't make it better.

Yup. I don't like this. Don't like this at all.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Seems plausible. I would hate it.


Main account with "slave" accounts? Would that be possible?

It's not plausible - Microsoft's licensing shit depends entirely on the console's ability to check in every 24 hours - and Sony have already confirmed the PS4 does not have these type of online DRM.

 

[DR3AM]

so people without internet can't play any games at all? omg wtf, Europe is screwed.

 

[bhlaab]

How bad was the original speculation if people think this isn't bad.

More or less the exact same but without carefully worded marketing roundabout speak.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

MS made everything we can already do now harder and did away with certain things altogether .
The online part don't effect me but the lending and selling make this a no go for everyone i know .

 

[Father_Brain]

Well, I'm not surprised that Major Nelson was full of shit when he said that the answers "looked good," but all this is still fairly astonishing.

 

[Toki767]

There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

This is the most disgusting, pathetic garbage I've ever seen.

Want to buy my game? Friend me and I can sell it to you 30 days from now!

 

[Justin]

At least we got answers. Digital trading sounds cool.

It specificaly says "disk-based games" so I doing think you will be able to send people digital games.

 

[Billen]

Do NOT sell that used car!

 

[Anteo]

Ooh and I bet this is Sony's system. Like almost identical.

Yeah, I don't see Sony not doing this.

 

[Chaplain]

http://news.xbox.com/2013/06/main

Highlights (lowlights?):

No renting, no loaning. No private sales (unless selling to someone who has been on your friends list for 30 days)

Console Checks in Every 24 hours

Trade-ins are up to the publisher and only at participating retailers

You can give a game to a friend only if they have been on your friends list for 30 days, and then it is stuck with them.

Up to 10 family members can play your games from any console at any time

I assume this means GOLD will be required.

 

[jmood88]

Remember when so many people praised Sony for giving publishers the choice to block used games? So now Microsoft says that they're doing that and it's a problem. Funny how that works.

 

[ashbash159]

I'm used to Steam.

The only thing about Xbox One that is worse than steam is it's 24 hour internet check.

It's still not an ideal future for video games though.

 

[Zombie James]

Give your games to friends: Xbox One is designed so game publishers can enable you to give your disc-based games to your friends. There are no fees charged as part of these transfers. There are two requirements: you can only give them to people who have been on your friends list for at least 30 days and each game can only be given once.

So I can't borrow any games for a month and once I borrow those games I won't be able to give them back?

Seriously, Microsoft: Fuck you.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

lol

They got the leave it up to the publisher thing backwards. You're meant to give them the option to not use drm, not the option to use it to shaft you even harder. So now pubs can stop you from even being able to trade their titles in. Some option.

 

[PopeReal]

This is all just crazy. Sony can't be this crazy, can they?

 

[ibrahima]

this is the moment where CBOAT turns up and tells us the worse is yet to come.

 

[rudieboy77]

So how will Sony respond? CD keys?

This would be my guess. btw I still do not see on the MS site where rentals are not allowed.

 

[cyberheater]

Well played MS, you've never made it easier for Sony to take my money.

Fuck you and your bullshit restrictions. Fuck your paywalls for basic features.

Fuck you.

I'd wait until Sony makes their position absolutely clear before jumping ship.