SpecialAgentZ
Member
Your are at least 20 years late, dude. Nothing new here. It's the reason I give 0 fucks to internet "gamers"/"influencers" (stupid word).
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Xbox tells influencers to prepare fans before BAD News announcements to Damage control
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delirium trigger
Member
I don't get the video. The example he used was 70 dollar games. How could you not use whataboutism? Games are 70 dollars now, lol.
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
How many followers / sheep has that iJustine woman got? Ask her
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
True, but my point was that MS execs spend far time with the community than Sony does. TO be fair, talking to the community is not a bad thing and my posts stated that it wouldn't hurt Sony to do a LITTLE more in that area.
CoreyFlawless
Member
I’m confused. Like what kinda make up crap is this.
If you're suggesting these people don't have xbox connections and are making things up, here you go, this might jog your memory:
The person at the back.
Vox Machina
Banned
For real. It's like a fly trap.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
This is 100% a pure lie!!!
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
If you're suggesting these people don't have xbox connections and are making things up, here you go, this might jog your memory:
The person at the back.
Jog my memory?
Seems like you're more familiar with these podcasters and their work than I am.
Del_X
Member
That’s a lot of words to say “I don’t know.”
ByWatterson
Member
Man I agree with that. LSM and Sacred Symbols are the best thing to happen to gaming podcasts, uh, ever. But the Dukes are straight up homers. Listening to CDC and then hearing two garden variety YouTubers backpat and fake laugh is jarring.
Their Nintendo lineup, though, is strong. Gene!
Banjo64
cumsessed
Are you mad, do you not remember the army of bot accounts telling everyone that the Wii U was the best console ever and that the PS Vita was a huge success?
Oh wait. That never happened.
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mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
Jog my memory?
Seems like you're more familiar with these podcasters and their work than I am.
Bro..... Cog has a direct line to Phil. He mentioned talking to him after the Kinda Funny XCast interview that Phil had. He told him that he can't say stuff like that. He knows all the Xbox top brass.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
The most logical conclusion anyone should have reached. But these companies reaching out to outlets/personalities to give out info about policies and shit isn’t really the issue here, the issue is console warriors on twitter making large assumptions about why they were given info and what they are supposed to do with it.
Not only does it go against logic and reason that if these guys were paid shills then MS wouldn’t need to worry about any criticism from them, but if they were paid shills given scripts to work off of, why would they just casually drop that info in a live stream?
Dude with punchable face: MS reached out and gave us this info so that personalities/outlets wouldn’t be surprised
Console warriors: LOL SEE MS SHILLS
People need to go outside and touch some grass.
graywolf323
Member
don’t bother, adamsapple is just obfuscating, I don’t believe for a second he’s never heard of Matty and Cog before
we’ve had threads about them before, Defining Duke was originally Matty &
Karak
after all and it was a big deal when Colin launched an Xbox podcast since it was his company going more into gaming broadly when previously it was just his own PlayStation podcast
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
Ladies and gentleman. This is how you know I was right and he has no response.
Thank you sir.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
You can choose to believe what you want, I'm always finding about all these 'Xbox influencers' and podcasts not from fellow 'xbots' but from threads like this
Not only does it go against logic and reason that if these guys were paid shills then MS wouldn’t need to worry about any criticism from them, but if they were paid shills given scripts to work off of, why would they just casually drop that info in a live stream?
The good news is if they really are paid shills, they probably broke some kind of NDA and won't be paid shills anymore.
yay ?
Banjo64
cumsessed
His exact words:
‘When they announced they were going to do $70 games remember they reached out to you, people like me, so on and so on like ‘hey by the way we’re just doing this, right?’ - trying to prepare people for what could be blowback, right?
Emphasis mine.
Why would a neutral journalist need to be prepared for blow back against Xbox?
That doesn’t make a jot of sense.
graywolf323
Member
might explain why so many of the usual suspects were ready to blame PlayStation for Xbox raising prices just like the rest of the industry has done (which wasn’t started by PlayStation either though they always seem to forget that fact, it was actually ABK & Take Two IIRC)
I’m still amazed they chose Redfall of all games to do it with, at least Nintendo waited for Tears of the Kingdom (and PlayStation opted for the start of a new generation)
FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
Astroturfing and shilling at its finest. I'm surprised they would admit this in public though 
It's been painfully obvious for a while that MS tells influencers and their fanboys to damage control for them.
It's been painfully obvious for a while that MS tells influencers and their fanboys to damage control for them.
Del_X
Member
Have sex
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
They were trying to portray how smart Microsoft is (part of their shilling task-list), but it all backfired.Astroturfing and shilling at its finest. I'm surprised they would admit this in public though
It's been painfully obvious for a while that MS tells influencers and their fanboys to damage control for them.
Puscifer
Member
I like posting this account to show how deep it is. No one cares about console warring on this level much less has this amount of time.
So why drop early info on them in the first place do you think? The reason is that they know those specific people are hard wired to spin things positively towards xbox in creative ways. So they use those people to influence others with the bad news by making it seem not so bad or somebody elses fault.Not only does it go against logic and reason that if these guys were paid shills then MS wouldn’t need to worry about any criticism from them, but if they were paid shills given scripts to work off of, why would they just casually drop that info in a live stream?
Take the $70 news for example. They'd prefer if somebody like Jez or Colt broke the news positively with something like
"following in the footsteps of Sony who introduced $70, xbox is set to increase prices for their first party games after holding off as long as possible, you can still get these great games on gamepass for the same price"
instead of some other more impartial outlet who might frame it differently
"xbox have previously said they don't intend to increase prices but have now officially set their first party games to $70 at a time where the cost of living has become difficult. there is no word on if gamepass prices will also increase later if this is due to next gen games costing more but that may also be likely"
They want the positive spin on it and they have the luxury of knowing that those people might even mix in some bullshit regarding the competition or them which they could never have officially said.
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Heisenberg007
Gold Journalism
Nice try, but he is not gonna have sex with you.
OGM_Madness
Member
They have to make money for batteries somehow.
/s
newtypepilot
Member
more bad news for xbox? but they are already got no games!!
jack up price of gamepass?
shut down more studios?
bringing back Kinect?
Nvidia did something similar with the 4060. They knew the card was going to be bad and not well received so when they got content creators to do "first impressions" videos, they had a lot of restrictions (on the games you can test on, or the benchmarks you can or cannot show, etc) to control the narrative.
jack up price of gamepass?
shut down more studios?
bringing back Kinect?
Nvidia did something similar with the 4060. They knew the card was going to be bad and not well received so when they got content creators to do "first impressions" videos, they had a lot of restrictions (on the games you can test on, or the benchmarks you can or cannot show, etc) to control the narrative.
Murdok
Member
Is Ms learning from Sony? Because when it comes to damage control your fans are masters. Just look at the speech against PC games, backwards compatibility, services, day one games when MS started making them and then when Sony started to imitate them.
It is interesting to see how speech and acceptance changes depending on who is speaking.
It is interesting to see how speech and acceptance changes depending on who is speaking.
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Pelta88
Member
Not only does it go against logic and reason that if these guys were paid shills then MS wouldn’t need to worry about any criticism from them, but if they were paid shills given scripts to work off of, why would they just casually drop that info in a live stream?
Because their podcasts rarely, if ever, talk about actual games. It's a contest about who is closer to Phil Spencer and XBOX. Or telling people to "Wait." These guys don't even have gamer scores to speak of.
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Unknown?
Member
I agree with you which is why no one should watch corporate news be it cable, gaming related, etc.
JohnnyFootball
GerAlt-Right. Ciriously.
SOny has not given us BC yet. They need to.
ComputerBlue
Member
This simply isn’t true Phil Spencer wouldn’t allow it.
Crayon
Member
It's not about the paid people but the fan culture. There are an outsized number of junior xb pr pushers everywhere. Does everybody do it? Maybe, but someone has to do it the most and if you aren't stupid you can look at who's been caught the most. Or more tellingly, how fast and hard talking points are adopted by the fandom. If they are acting in lockstep with the same talking points or trolling, then it's clearly coming from up the chain.
ComputerBlue
Member
If you're suggesting these people don't have xbox connections and are making things up, here you go, this might jog your memory:
The person at the back.
ByWatterson
Member
Yeah, none of this really matters, but for people who care about the art form or the hobby, it's nice to know which voices are genuine and which are bullshit.
StealthGoblin
Banned
The influencer angle was ‘Sony started this’ and ‘Just buy GamePass to avoid it anyway’. It was well rehearsed.
Bumblebeetuna
Member
And yet you, as someone who typically craps on Xbox here, routinely listen to their podcast? And actively monitor their gamer scores? That’s not weird at all.
When I listened to the podcast, they certainly talked about a lot of games.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
They'll eventually catch up with your alternative lifestyle.
Giallo Corsa
Gold Member
- "Amazing and deeply emotional"
- "Thank you for being such a positive creative force in my life and for the Xbox community."
- "Always"
Seriously, who eats up this PR shit ?
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Cultists.
Sarah, blink twice of you're not a robot. Three times if you need a search & rescue.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Pelta88
Member
Actually no. A youtuber by the name of "King Thrash" did a video on the members of that podcast and other Pro XBOX podcasts. Clipped and uploaded on twitter. According to their own gamer scores, those guys don't actually game.
Sycophantic behaviour...